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Jan 1, 2021 08:34:44   #
Kmgw9v Loc: Miami, Florida
 
R.G. wrote:
I'm not basing my thinking on conspiracy theories, as you suggested. And I'm not going to base my thinking on what the mainstream media is telling us.


On what media do you base your thinking?

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Jan 1, 2021 08:37:55   #
R.G. Loc: Scotland
 
Kmgw9v wrote:
On what media do you base your thinking?


Finding reliable sources isn't easy in this day and age. But a good starting point is to recognise how biased the mainstream media is. They are definitely NOT a reliable source of information or ideas.

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Jan 1, 2021 08:46:29   #
R.G. Loc: Scotland
 
Kmgw9v wrote:
On what media do you base your thinking?


OK - you're probably after something more specific. There are many people referring to themselves as prophets or claim that they know what God is planning. They aren't all to be believed, but with a bit of discernment it's possible to determine who the reliable ones are, especially if there's a widespread consensus and agreement amongst the more reliable ones. One subject that they are almost unanimous on is the continuation of Donald Trump's presidency.

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Jan 1, 2021 09:04:00   #
Frank T Loc: New York, NY
 
Judging by this thread there must have been some heavy drinking going on for New Year's Eve.

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Jan 1, 2021 09:06:56   #
thom w Loc: San Jose, CA
 
R.G. wrote:
First off - happy new year everybody. 2021 will be a good year.

The truth is the Democrats were trying to steal an election that Donald Trump won and they are guilty of electoral fraud and vote rigging. If you don't think so you're listening to the wrong people.

Perhaps you're already aware that America's mainstream media has given up even the pretense of being unbiased. Or perhaps you don't realise how blatant the MSM has become. If you're still living in a nice cosy world where you think you can listen to the mainstream media and let them do your thinking for you, you are in for a rude awakening. Corruption and deceit are widespread. Donald Trump will be vindicated and eventually the media will acknowledge what he has done to reverse and expose corruption (also known as draining the swamp). He has also done much to reverse America's economic decline, so don't listen to suggestions that America's economy isn't doing well under him.

I started this thread because I suspect that the mainstream media has most people so brainwashed they aren't even considering the possibility that Donald Trump had a case.
First off - happy new year everybody. 2021 will b... (show quote)


I read your claims. I couldn't find your evidence or references. It really doesn't work that way. If you want me to believe you, convince me. You didn't even try.

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Jan 1, 2021 09:11:11   #
JohnSwanda Loc: San Francisco
 
R.G. wrote:
I'm not basing my thinking on conspiracy theories, as you suggested. And I'm not going to base my thinking on what the mainstream media is telling us.


Forget what the media is telling us. How about all the many courts, including the Supreme Court, which have ruled against Trump on election fraud, including judges Trump appointed?

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Jan 1, 2021 09:17:04   #
R.G. Loc: Scotland
 
thom w wrote:
....If you want me to believe you, convince me....


Or we could just wait to see what transpires. Until then, everything is just speculation.

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Jan 1, 2021 09:20:22   #
R.G. Loc: Scotland
 
JohnSwanda wrote:
Forget what the media is telling us. How about all the many courts, including the Supreme Court, which have ruled against Trump on election fraud, including judges Trump appointed?


Until these issues are fully resolved everything is speculation. As far as the courts are concerned, I suspect that serious intimidation may be a factor at work behind the scenes. It takes a lot of courage to stand up against things like death threats (and we are talking about people who are more than capable of using tactics like that).

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Jan 1, 2021 09:28:26   #
thom w Loc: San Jose, CA
 
R.G. wrote:
Until these issues are fully resolved everything is speculation. As far as the courts are concerned, I suspect that serious intimidation may be a factor at work behind the scenes. It takes a lot of courage to stand up against things like death threats (and we are talking about people that are more than capable of using tactics like that).


Your post didn't even suggest you were speculation. You pretty much stated your belief as though it was fact. When Biden takes office will you be looking for a new prophet?

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Jan 1, 2021 09:31:05   #
R.G. Loc: Scotland
 
thom w wrote:
Your post didn't even suggest you were speculation. You pretty much stated your belief as though it was fact. When Biden takes office will you be looking for a new prophet?


I saw others speaking with certainty and presumption so I thought I'd interject some of my own. But since you mention it I am 100% certain. The truth remains to be seen. We'll just have to wait.....

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Jan 1, 2021 09:36:15   #
Kmgw9v Loc: Miami, Florida
 
R.G. wrote:
OK - you're probably after something more specific. There are many people referring to themselves as prophets or claim that they know what God is planning. They aren't all to be believed, but with a bit of discernment it's possible to determine who the reliable ones are, especially if there's a widespread consensus and agreement amongst the more reliable ones. One subject that they are almost unanimous on is the continuation of Donald Trump's presidency.


I would like to read what these prophets have written or spoken.

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Jan 1, 2021 09:36:26   #
Kraken Loc: Barry's Bay
 
R.G. wrote:
I saw others speaking with certainty and presumption so I thought I'd interject some of my own. But since you mention it I am 100% certain. The truth remains to be seen. We'll just have to wait.....


Let's face it the only truth out there is the one you

want to hear everything else is BS and fake.

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Jan 1, 2021 09:39:43   #
MadMikeOne Loc: So. NJ Shore - a bit west of Atlantic City
 
R.G. wrote:
The truth will out.


Well, you've certainly cleared that up!

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Jan 1, 2021 09:40:57   #
R.G. Loc: Scotland
 
Kraken wrote:
Let's face it the only truth out there is the one you

want to hear everything else is BS and fake.


I believe that a certain amount of scepticism is usually a good thing, but what you are suggesting is extreme cynicism.

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Jan 1, 2021 09:46:50   #
R.G. Loc: Scotland
 
Kmgw9v wrote:
I would like to read what these prophets have written or spoken.


There are quite a few. You could start with Kim Clement who predicted Donald Trump's presidency (for two terms) as far back as 2012 (I think).

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