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Jan 4, 2021 15:40:16   #
scooter1 Loc: Yacolt, Wa.
 
Carusoswi wrote:
If Trump had (has) a case, why does he and his "legal" team refuse to support that case with evidence supporting it. Sworn affidavits (many of which were withdrawn when exposed to legal scrutiny) and other forms of mere allegations of supposed "rigging" and "stealing" do not make Trump's claims of election fraud come true. He set up the current stir by harping about how the election would be rigged long before the election happened. At more than 50 court appearances, he and his team failed to present any factual evidence. Please explain to all us MSM brainwashed people why the Trumpsters failed to present their evidence to the courts?
Also, so that we can correct our feeble brains, give us a list of your non-MSM sources so we can come to see Trump's "case" as it "really" is.

If you are so knowledgeable about his "case", instead of baseless lambasting of the legitimate press, why don't you post up the facts that support his "case." You won't because you cannot. He has no case. Perhaps you support his having phoned the Georgia secretary of state badgering him for an hour to "find" 11,780 votes to overturn that state's presidential election results . . . or you have convinced yourself that the recording of that call was some MSM fabrication.

Trump is dumb as a rock, and that is why he lost his bid for reelection.

Caruso
If Trump had (has) a case, why does he and his &qu... (show quote)


Well Caruso first of all the call you are talking about was asking for assurances of the legality of the vote and to make sure there was no fraud. The story you are talking about has been debunked by Raffensperger himself. But that doesn't matter to you liberal lynch mobs does it. Innocence has no place in your little world. This is almost as sad as the assertion that he pressured the president of Ukraine to invent things on Biden. Even the president of Ukraine said there was no truth to it. But in typical liberal fashion Trump is guilty until proven innocent. Biden is on video bragging about the same thing Trump was accused of doing yet you liberals gave Biden a free pass. The liberal party has morphed into the most un american entity in our government and you liberals own it. Maybe scrutinize your own incredibly corrupt politicians. You just might learn what the rest of us already know. They're scum!

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Jan 4, 2021 15:48:36   #
Kmgw9v Loc: Miami, Florida
 
scooter1 wrote:
Well Caruso first of all the call you are talking about was asking for assurances of the legality of the vote and to make sure there was no fraud. The story you are talking about has been debunked by Raffensperger himself. But that doesn't matter to you liberal lynch mobs does it. Innocence has no place in your little world. This is almost as sad as the assertion that he pressured the president of Ukraine to invent things on Biden. Even the president of Ukraine said there was no truth to it. But in typical liberal fashion Trump is guilty until proven innocent. Biden is on video bragging about the same thing Trump was accused of doing yet you liberals gave Biden a free pass. The liberal party has morphed into the most un american entity in our government and you liberals own it. Maybe scrutinize your own incredibly corrupt politicians. You just might learn what the rest of us already know. They're scum!
Well Caruso first of all the call you are talking ... (show quote)



"When President Trump allegedly tried firing special prosecutor Robert S. Mueller III, refused to respond to lawful subpoenas during the investigation into the 2016 election and committed the other acts to obstruct justice documented in the Mueller report, he arguably violated his oath, broke the law and committed impeachable conduct.

When he tried to extort Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky (“I would like you to do us a favor though …”) to create dirt to use against now President-elect Joe Biden and stonewalled Congress’s demands for evidence, he again violated his oath, engaged in impeachable conduct and broke the law.

In neither case did Republicans recognize the facts before them. In neither case did they act to remove him. That prologue brings us to his telephone call with Georgia Secretary of State Brad Raffensperger on Saturday.
The Post reports: “President Trump urged fellow Republican Brad Raffensperger, the Georgia secretary of state, to ‘find’ enough votes to overturn his defeat in an extraordinary one-hour phone call Saturday that election experts said raised legal questions.” In the call, Trump asked Raffensperger to change the certified vote that was subject to multiple recounts: “So look. All I want to do is this. I just want to find 11,780 votes, which is one more than we have. Because we won the state.”

Jennifer Rubin
January 4, 2021

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Jan 4, 2021 16:12:10   #
scooter1 Loc: Yacolt, Wa.
 
Kmgw9v wrote:
"When President Trump allegedly tried firing special prosecutor Robert S. Mueller III, refused to respond to lawful subpoenas during the investigation into the 2016 election and committed the other acts to obstruct justice documented in the Mueller report, he arguably violated his oath, broke the law and committed impeachable conduct.

When he tried to extort Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky (“I would like you to do us a favor though …”) to create dirt to use against now President-elect Joe Biden and stonewalled Congress’s demands for evidence, he again violated his oath, engaged in impeachable conduct and broke the law.

In neither case did Republicans recognize the facts before them. In neither case did they act to remove him. That prologue brings us to his telephone call with Georgia Secretary of State Brad Raffensperger on Saturday.
The Post reports: “President Trump urged fellow Republican Brad Raffensperger, the Georgia secretary of state, to ‘find’ enough votes to overturn his defeat in an extraordinary one-hour phone call Saturday that election experts said raised legal questions.” In the call, Trump asked Raffensperger to change the certified vote that was subject to multiple recounts: “So look. All I want to do is this. I just want to find 11,780 votes, which is one more than we have. Because we won the state.”

Jennifer Rubin
January 4, 2021
"When President Trump allegedly tried firing ... (show quote)


And again I must state The president of Ukraine reported that there was no "extort". What would it take for you to believe that? From the so called horses mouth. And again per Raffensperger himself Trump wanted to make sure "election transparency, full and transparent audits, and public access". But then again Jennifer Rubin says he's guilty and she knows better than Raffensperger. Again you liberals will think the worst of Trump even though the facts tell a different story. The story about the pres of Ukraine is common knowledge and has been out since the whole B.S. started. Raffensperger is a newer story and is out already also. Why won't you accept the facts?? Facts! I also noticed you did not address the Biden video. Why? He did exactly what you are falsely blaming Trump for. You are so eager to blame all the ills of the world on Trump but give your own corrupt politicians a pass.

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Jan 4, 2021 16:33:15   #
Fotoartist Loc: Detroit, Michigan
 
Kmgw9v wrote:
"When President Trump allegedly tried firing special prosecutor Robert S. Mueller III, refused to respond to lawful subpoenas during the investigation into the 2016 election and committed the other acts to obstruct justice documented in the Mueller report, he arguably violated his oath, broke the law and committed impeachable conduct.

When he tried to extort Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky (“I would like you to do us a favor though …”) to create dirt to use against now President-elect Joe Biden and stonewalled Congress’s demands for evidence, he again violated his oath, engaged in impeachable conduct and broke the law.

In neither case did Republicans recognize the facts before them. In neither case did they act to remove him. That prologue brings us to his telephone call with Georgia Secretary of State Brad Raffensperger on Saturday.
The Post reports: “President Trump urged fellow Republican Brad Raffensperger, the Georgia secretary of state, to ‘find’ enough votes to overturn his defeat in an extraordinary one-hour phone call Saturday that election experts said raised legal questions.” In the call, Trump asked Raffensperger to change the certified vote that was subject to multiple recounts: “So look. All I want to do is this. I just want to find 11,780 votes, which is one more than we have. Because we won the state.”

Jennifer Rubin
January 4, 2021
"When President Trump allegedly tried firing ... (show quote)


Sorry, Jennifer Rubin is the poster child for blind dumb hate for Trump. Her statements are pure lying nonsense. No credibility much like the people who quote her.

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Jan 4, 2021 17:28:17   #
National Park
 
R.G. wrote:
First off - happy new year everybody. 2021 will be a good year.

The truth is the Democrats were trying to steal an election that Donald Trump won and they are guilty of electoral fraud and vote rigging. If you don't think so you're listening to the wrong people.

Perhaps you're already aware that America's mainstream media has given up even the pretense of being unbiased. Or perhaps you don't realise how blatant the MSM has become. If you're still living in a nice cosy world where you think you can listen to the mainstream media and let them do your thinking for you, you are in for a rude awakening. Corruption and deceit are widespread. Donald Trump will be vindicated and eventually the media will acknowledge what he has done to reverse and expose corruption (also known as draining the swamp). He has also done much to reverse America's economic decline, so don't listen to suggestions that America's economy isn't doing well under him.

I started this thread because I suspect that the mainstream media has most people so brainwashed they aren't even considering the possibility that Donald Trump had a case.
First off - happy new year everybody. 2021 will b... (show quote)


Nonsense. The only person trying to steal the election is Trump with wild conspiracy theories and lies.

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Jan 4, 2021 19:43:46   #
Shutterbug1697 Loc: Northeast
 
scooter1 wrote:
And again I must state The president of Ukraine reported that there was no "extort". What would it take for you to believe that? From the so called horses mouth. And again per Raffensperger himself Trump wanted to make sure "election transparency, full and transparent audits, and public access". But then again Jennifer Rubin says he's guilty and she knows better than Raffensperger. Again you liberals will think the worst of Trump even though the facts tell a different story. The story about the pres of Ukraine is common knowledge and has been out since the whole B.S. started. Raffensperger is a newer story and is out already also. Why won't you accept the facts?? Facts! I also noticed you did not address the Biden video. Why? He did exactly what you are falsely blaming Trump for. You are so eager to blame all the ills of the world on Trump but give your own corrupt politicians a pass.
And again I must state The president of Ukraine re... (show quote)

https://www.yahoo.com/news/raffensperger-hints-trump-could-face-143927026.html

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Jan 4, 2021 19:45:09   #
Shutterbug1697 Loc: Northeast
 
Fotoartist wrote:
Sorry, Jennifer Rubin is the poster child for blind dumb hate for Trump. Her statements are pure lying nonsense. No credibility much like the people who quote her.

https://www.yahoo.com/huffpost/raffensperger-trump-call-135419777.html

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Jan 4, 2021 19:47:50   #
Shutterbug1697 Loc: Northeast
 
scooter1 wrote:
Well Caruso first of all the call you are talking about was asking for assurances of the legality of the vote and to make sure there was no fraud. The story you are talking about has been debunked by Raffensperger himself. But that doesn't matter to you liberal lynch mobs does it. Innocence has no place in your little world. This is almost as sad as the assertion that he pressured the president of Ukraine to invent things on Biden. Even the president of Ukraine said there was no truth to it. But in typical liberal fashion Trump is guilty until proven innocent. Biden is on video bragging about the same thing Trump was accused of doing yet you liberals gave Biden a free pass. The liberal party has morphed into the most un american entity in our government and you liberals own it. Maybe scrutinize your own incredibly corrupt politicians. You just might learn what the rest of us already know. They're scum!
Well Caruso first of all the call you are talking ... (show quote)

https://www.yahoo.com/huffpost/trump-georgia-5-wildest-moments-061038529.html

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Jan 4, 2021 21:12:38   #
foodie65
 
R.G. wrote:
You want something more specific? I believe that God's purposes include having Donald Trump in office for another four years - and that's what will decide the outcome.


Well in 2016 God put Dump in the White House.
In 2020 God issued a recall.

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Jan 4, 2021 21:13:46   #
foodie65
 
Fotoartist wrote:
Sorry, Jennifer Rubin is the poster child for blind dumb hate for Trump. Her statements are pure lying nonsense. No credibility much like the people who quote her.


And besides that, she doesn’t work for Faux News

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Jan 4, 2021 21:57:03   #
scooter1 Loc: Yacolt, Wa.
 
National Park wrote:
Nonsense. The only person trying to steal the election is Trump with wild conspiracy theories and lies.


Speaking of nonsense. You state your opinion and that's all, your opinion. No facts. Good luck with that.

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Jan 4, 2021 22:04:04   #
scooter1 Loc: Yacolt, Wa.
 
Shutterbug1697 wrote:
https://www.yahoo.com/news/raffensperger-hints-trump-could-face-143927026.html


And here you show a "big tech" as fact? Fact: 'big tech' has been proven, and may be prosecuted, to be biased. This bias is fed by the democrat party and them turning their heads to all unethical things 'big tech' has been proven to perpetrate on the american public. They should and maybe will lose their immunity, as they should, if the right outcomes happen. They should not have complete immunity to prosecution. In case you haven't been aware of they are completely biased against conservative voices.

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Jan 4, 2021 22:05:19   #
scooter1 Loc: Yacolt, Wa.
 
foodie65 wrote:
Well in 2016 God put Dump in the White House.
In 2020 God issued a recall.


Now that is soo cute. Got to make your relatives proud.

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Jan 4, 2021 22:30:46   #
foodie65
 
scooter1 wrote:
Now that is soo cute. Got to make your relatives proud.


Unfortunately most of my relatives support Dump

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Jan 4, 2021 22:33:05   #
scooter1 Loc: Yacolt, Wa.
 
So You're the only one that can't spell. But you're liberal so it makes sense.

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