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Dec 21, 2020 07:48:07   #
cedymock Loc: Irmo, South Carolina
 
billnikon wrote:
The Chinese get all of our infrastructure from images from our current satellites. There is no need for them to use drones they produce and sell to the US.


Thinking the same; US, Russia and China can probably tell you every manhole cover in each others country down to the mm.

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Dec 21, 2020 07:48:59   #
sigo
 
tainkc wrote:
Not to worry. I have the Mavic mini and I use it all of the time for work. One of my projects is very close to an area airport. Still no problem. The photos I take for work do not fall under commercial use since I am not taking pictures for profit. Also, there is a cool little subroutine that informs you if you are near an airport or a no fly zone which pops up when you hit the "go fly" button. Both versions of the Mini do not need any special licensing for general usage since they are under the weight limits that the government has set as a baseline for such licensing. In addition, if you were to go with a heavier drone, there is a cheap license you need to get if you are just flying for the sport of it. I think it is around $5.00. I had to get one of these for my R.C. planes. The one time license covers all of my planes...
Not to worry. I have the Mavic mini and I use it ... (show quote)


The weight of the aircraft is irrelevant if you are using it for profit. If your mini is being flown commercially, then it too is being operated under part 107. If you are flying for your job, you’re being paid to fly, and you’re operating commercially. By the sounds of your application you are firmly in part 107 territory and you need a license. You probably want to be sure you are covered to operate a sUAS by your company’s insurance too.

Also, the hobbyist registration is not a one time fee. It covers all of your aircraft for only $5 but it must renewed every three years. Don’t forget to renew!

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Dec 21, 2020 09:17:41   #
NCMtnMan Loc: N. Fork New River, Ashe Co., NC
 
Why not just check FAA's website to see if there is info there?

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Dec 21, 2020 09:39:01   #
jerryc41 Loc: Catskill Mts of NY
 
As much as I like gadgets and electronics, I was never tempted to get a drone. Why? Restrictive laws, someone shooting it down, me losing or crashing it.

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Dec 21, 2020 10:01:32   #
sr71 Loc: In Col. Juan Seguin Land
 
ELNikkor wrote:
Smart to get one under the weight limit. The US will make you get a pilot's license and add all kinds of restrictions if it is over 9 ounces. I'm more frustrated with the stifling, invasive, spying, regulated, paranoid US than I am with China. What does China care what my videos of a swamp look like?


Uh not exactly correct......any thing that is over the weight limit has to have a registration number. Now that being said if you are flying (r/c fixed wing, helo, drone) for business purposes then you will have to comply with part 107, recreationally while just having the reg nr you don't needs the permit/lic, one just has to fly within the rules of part 107

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Dec 21, 2020 10:55:01   #
clickety
 
bsprague wrote:
Drones may become harder to get. So I bought one from my favorite New York camera store. To be fair to the camera store, I am not going break any seals on the box until I know more. My choice was the recently updated "Mini 2". It weighs under nine ounces, fits in a jacket pocket, shoots 4K video and 12 MP RAW stills.

To be fair to the camera store, I am not going break any seals on the box until I know more.

What do I need to know about owning, operating and shooting with a Chinese made drone?
Drones may become harder to get. So I bought one... (show quote)


Current reality is that any image taken by anything Chinese has a high potential of ending up on a server somewhere within China. The worldwide gathering of vast amounts of data seems harmless by itself and probably is UNTIL THE TIME IT IS ASSEMBLED, FOCUSED AND PUT TO NEFARIOUS USE. Whom do you trust and how much? That should be your question! Is a photo or two worth being an unwitting accomplice to espionage?
Personally, I have this concern with social media sites also.

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Dec 21, 2020 12:12:03   #
tallshooter
 
[quote=tainkc]Not to worry. I have the Mavic mini and I use it all of the time for work. One of my projects is very close to an area airport. Still no problem. The photos I take for work do not fall under commercial use since I am not taking pictures for profit. Also, there is a cool little subroutine that informs you if you are near an airport or a no fly zone which pops up when you hit the "go fly" button. Both versions of the Mini do not need any special licensing for general usage since they are under the weight limits that the government has set as a baseline for such licensing.

"use it all of the time for work" would be defined as in-furtherance-of-a-business and would require the FAA Part 107 certification. This is required for all drone weights used in-furtherance-of-a-business.

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Dec 21, 2020 12:14:52   #
tallshooter
 
jerryc41 wrote:
As much as I like gadgets and electronics, I was never tempted to get a drone. Why? Restrictive laws, someone shooting it down, me losing or crashing it.


Like cars and trucks and boats, ha!

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Dec 21, 2020 16:05:31   #
bwana Loc: Bergen, Alberta, Canada
 
ELNikkor wrote:
Smart to get one under the weight limit. The US will make you get a pilot's license and add all kinds of restrictions if it is over 9 ounces. I'm more frustrated with the stifling, invasive, spying, regulated, paranoid US than I am with China. What does China care what my videos of a swamp look like?



bwa

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Dec 21, 2020 16:08:17   #
oregonfrank Loc: Astoria, Oregon
 
wildweasel wrote:
I own two DJI drones and in my opinion they are among the best drones out there. Just know that if you buy any drone you will be restricted as to where you can fly it, and if you want to use it to take photos to sell, you must have an FAA pilots license at a cost of $150 and pass a fairly difficult test.


It takes several thousand dollars to complete all requirements for just a private pilot license.

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Dec 21, 2020 16:17:25   #
sigo
 
oregonfrank wrote:
It takes several thousand dollars to complete all requirements for just a private pilot license.


A Part 107 FAA Remote Pilot Certificate is $160. If you pay more for the training, that is up to you. All the training material is free.

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Dec 21, 2020 16:22:47   #
SteveLoker Loc: Fort Worth, TX
 
One of the biggest reasons for blacklisting Chinese companies is the Chinese stance on intellectual property rules. You could have patented intellectual property incorporated into a product and farm out the manufactur to a company in China and the Chinese government can copy, use and redistribute it with no protection to YOUR patent.
That is part of the price one pays to outsource manufacturing to China. Too bad too, DJI has some incredibly innovative designs. My next drone will probably be the M2E Advanced. Check it out on DJI's website. 48mp camera AND 640 x 512 px thermal imaging! That's just part of it!

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Dec 21, 2020 16:58:00   #
gouldopfl
 
All countries including the US "steal" intellectual property. Multinational companies make it easier. Russia and China aren't the only ones. You have many of our allies that also participate. Just like we had a huge hack of government agencies and over 18000 companies, the major players are all involved with these tactics. The sad thing is that by the time they determine how best to fix this, bad actors will have considered this dead and are on to planning and executing the next big thing

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Dec 21, 2020 18:44:52   #
gouldopfl
 
Politics is involved with everything coming out of China now. Two of the best programmers I have ever worked with both come from China. Their education in mathematics and science are superior to most in the US and the reason why we are having a tough time finding qualified staff to write the difficult complex algorithms needed for new technologies.

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Dec 21, 2020 19:15:45   #
clickety
 
Talented, no doubt. Trustworthy? True ideology??

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