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Nov 15, 2020 05:53:34   #
mizzee Loc: Boston,Ma
 
I love my 25 F1.8 (50 equivalent). I use it when I’m in the city, indoors, museums. I had a 35 equivalent but returned it because it just wasn’t my jam.

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Nov 15, 2020 06:23:31   #
tcthome Loc: NJ
 
I'm guilty here. The only prime I own is the Nikon 105 micro. I need to add the 50 & would like a 20 & 35 1.8 but am not sure if I'm going to do it as mirrorless as of yet.

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Nov 15, 2020 06:31:16   #
tcthome Loc: NJ
 
When you say nature, do you mean close ups or macro. If so , these type of photos usually require A higher f stop # or and a multi focus type pictures put together in post to get more or all of the subject in focus. Sometimes a little more distance between the lens & subject will help with that & if need be, you can always crop in post to if desired.

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Nov 15, 2020 07:04:19   #
billnikon Loc: Pennsylvania/Ohio/Florida/Maui/Oregon/Vermont
 
MountainDave wrote:
Like most people, I use zooms mostly and I have a few of Canon's finest. But I try to use my primes as much as possible. Attaching one to my camera gives me more of a sense of seriousness and I anticipate making some really compelling images that just don't seem possible even with the best zooms. I've been surprised how many photographers, even serious ones with expensive equipment, don't own a single prime. Everyone should at least own a nifty fifty where if nothing else, you can experiment with the shallow depth of field at 1.8 that's not available in any zoom. And it's as sharp or sharper than even the best zooms. Another I like is the 40mm pancake. While not as fast as the 50, it's a bit sharper and smaller. I find it to be extremely versatile with closeups, landscapes and anything else. You can just stick it in your pocket. At 179., this a gift from Canon. One more: the 135 2.0L. I call this my magic lens because it produces magic images. It's been on the market since 1996 and some still say it's Canon's best lens ever! Since Canon just raised the price of the 100 2.8L, the 135 is now the cheapest L series prime, a relative bargain. I invite others who use primes to make recommendations to help out our primeless brethren!
Like most people, I use zooms mostly and I have a ... (show quote)


And I agree, Prime lenses are a treat to use. But for me, my Nikon 70-200 2.8 FL has the following advantages over a prime lens.
1. Sharpness, my 70-200 delivers the same quality 30X40 prints as my primes.
2. Versatility, my 70-200 is actually a 85, 105, 135, and 200 mm lens built into one lens.
3. Cost, my 70-200 is cheaper than buying a 85, 105, 135, and 200 mm 2.8 lens.
4. Portraits, my 70-200 gives me much more versatility than any prime, without moving I can let the model move and strike a great pose, I can now zoom until I get it just right in the camera.
Second Portrait advantage, for gals with, lets say a larger nose than would be expected, I can zoom out to 200mm and flatten it much more than using say, a 135.
5. Field advantage, in the field I do not have to change lenses, result is less chance for something getting on my sensor.
Today's zoom lenses are not your fathers zooms of the film past. Most are razor sharp and have great advantages over most primes.
Good luck, and as always, keep on shooting until the end.
PS. If you want to argue my points, please provide photographic proof, other wise your just a talking head.

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Nov 15, 2020 07:41:06   #
Cuw
 
I agree with you in regards to the 135, its always with me, my favorite prime. I find myself using less zooms, and more primes when possible.

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Nov 15, 2020 08:13:15   #
ELNikkor
 
My travel kit was always a 24 2.8, 50 f2 H, and 200 f4 Q, Nikon FM Plus-X, FE Kodachrome 64; ahh, the simple days...

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Nov 15, 2020 08:18:36   #
uhaas2009
 
My first lens was a 50 on film and my first dslr came with a zoom. Shooting with a low end body didn’t want me to upgrade Lens. After years of zoom lenses I finally got a 50 and I realized that I needed to move my feet more...... and someone said the best tool is the photographer feet.

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Nov 15, 2020 08:20:47   #
Kmgw9v Loc: Miami, Florida
 
billnikon wrote:
And I agree, Prime lenses are a treat to use. But for me, my Nikon 70-200 2.8 FL has the following advantages over a prime lens.
1. Sharpness, my 70-200 delivers the same quality 30X40 prints as my primes.
2. Versatility, my 70-200 is actually a 85, 105, 135, and 200 mm lens built into one lens.
3. Cost, my 70-200 is cheaper than buying a 85, 105, 135, and 200 mm 2.8 lens.
4. Portraits, my 70-200 gives me much more versatility than any prime, without moving I can let the model move and strike a great pose, I can now zoom until I get it just right in the camera.
Second Portrait advantage, for gals with, lets say a larger nose than would be expected, I can zoom out to 200mm and flatten it much more than using say, a 135.
5. Field advantage, in the field I do not have to change lenses, result is less chance for something getting on my sensor.
Today's zoom lenses are not your fathers zooms of the film past. Most are razor sharp and have great advantages over most primes.
Good luck, and as always, keep on shooting until the end.
PS. If you want to argue my points, please provide photographic proof, other wise your just a talking head.
And I agree, Prime lenses are a treat to use. But ... (show quote)


Every point you make about the 24-70 Fl is indisputable. But, as you repeated “Primes lenses are a treat to use”.

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Nov 15, 2020 08:37:00   #
Red Sky At Night
 
I purchased a 50mm prime as a treat for myself last year for Christmas and ended up returning it. I just couldn’t see a difference and concluded it was just my lack of skill. I shoot with the D850 and own Nikkor zooms. Would someone be able to post an example of a scene or portrait taken with a zoom and a 50 to show me what I’m missing in not adding the nifty 50 back into my bag? I would not be opposed to adding it back in. Thanks.

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Nov 15, 2020 08:37:27   #
rlynes Loc: Wisconsin
 
My 35mm f1.4L (first series) is always with me. It's my go-to street and city-at-night lens.

Haven't had the opportunity to use the 135mm, but now I'll have to try one.

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Nov 15, 2020 08:51:24   #
CHG_CANON Loc: the Windy City
 
Red Sky At Night wrote:
I purchased a 50mm prime as a treat for myself last year for Christmas and ended up returning it. I just couldn’t see a difference and concluded it was just my lack of skill. I shoot with the D850 and own Nikkor zooms. Would someone be able to post an example of a scene or portrait taken with a zoom and a 50 to show me what I’m missing in not adding the nifty 50 back into my bag? I would not be opposed to adding it back in. Thanks.


Here's an old post that is only 2-pages with several contributions for f/1.8 50s: https://www.uglyhedgehog.com/t-177192-1.html

What's hard to demonstrate is the light weight and relatively small size. The Canon and Nikon versions weigh between 5oz to 6 ounces. Relative to the weight of a full frame DSLR camera and / or zoom lenses that include 50mm, it's like the lens is not even there and you're just carrying the camera with no lens. Different models have different characteristics, but f/2 to f/2.8 are a wonderful mix of sharpness and background blur, typically less than $200 in cost.

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Nov 15, 2020 09:06:13   #
Red Sky At Night
 
CHG_CANON wrote:
Here's an old post that is only 2-pages with several contributions for f/1.8 50s: https://www.uglyhedgehog.com/t-177192-1.html

What's hard to demonstrate is the light weight and relatively small size. The Canon and Nikon versions weigh between 5oz to 6 ounces. Relative to the weight of a full frame DSLR camera and / or zoom lenses that include 50mm, it's like the lens is not even there and you're just carrying the camera with no lens. Different models have different characteristics, but f/2 to f/2.8 are a wonderful mix of sharpness and background blur, typically less than $200 in cost.
Here's an old post that is only 2-pages with sever... (show quote)


Thank you so much for posting this. I’m convinced. Guess that baby will return to my bag. I have to admit the weight was a huge plus.

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Nov 15, 2020 09:11:54   #
joer Loc: Colorado/Illinois
 
MountainDave wrote:
Like most people, I use zooms mostly and I have a few of Canon's finest. But I try to use my primes as much as possible. Attaching one to my camera gives me more of a sense of seriousness and I anticipate making some really compelling images that just don't seem possible even with the best zooms. I've been surprised how many photographers, even serious ones with expensive equipment, don't own a single prime. Everyone should at least own a nifty fifty where if nothing else, you can experiment with the shallow depth of field at 1.8 that's not available in any zoom. And it's as sharp or sharper than even the best zooms. Another I like is the 40mm pancake. While not as fast as the 50, it's a bit sharper and smaller. I find it to be extremely versatile with closeups, landscapes and anything else. You can just stick it in your pocket. At 179., this a gift from Canon. One more: the 135 2.0L. I call this my magic lens because it produces magic images. It's been on the market since 1996 and some still say it's Canon's best lens ever! Since Canon just raised the price of the 100 2.8L, the 135 is now the cheapest L series prime, a relative bargain. I invite others who use primes to make recommendations to help out our primeless brethren!
Like most people, I use zooms mostly and I have a ... (show quote)


I use zooms and primes. There is a place for both in my kit. They are just tools. A good analogy is a socket wrench vs crescent wrench. There are circumstances where one is superoir to the other.

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Nov 15, 2020 09:18:59   #
Leitz Loc: Solms
 
billnikon wrote:
... my 70-200 is actually a 85, 105, 135, and 200 mm lens built into one lens.

Is your lens defective? It ought to zoom out to 70mm.

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Nov 15, 2020 09:31:58   #
Kmgw9v Loc: Miami, Florida
 
rlynes wrote:
My 35mm f1.4L (first series) is always with me. It's my go-to street and city-at-night lens.

Haven't had the opportunity to use the 135mm, but now I'll have to try one.


I use the Nikon 35mm 1.4 as my everyday street lens.

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