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Nov 14, 2020 15:46:29   #
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MountainDave wrote:
I also find I concentrate more on framing or look for scenes that would specifically benefit from the focal length in use. I also experiment more. It's all too easy to get lazy with a zoom. I have that 35 lens too. terrific.

Dave

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Primes strengthen your synapses and enhance your awareness of perspective.

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Nov 14, 2020 16:11:41   #
rfmaude41 Loc: Lancaster, Texas (DFW area)
 
MountainDave wrote:
you can experiment with the shallow depth of field at 1.8 that's not available in any zoom.



Before you state this, please do some sort of research; here's two of them from Sigma:

50-100mm F1.8 DC HSM | ART

18-35mm F1.8 DC HSM | ART

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Nov 14, 2020 16:22:39   #
TriX Loc: Raleigh, NC
 
rfmaude41 wrote:
Before you state this, please do some sort of research; here's two of them from Sigma:

50-100mm F1.8 DC HSM | ART

18-35mm F1.8 DC HSM | ART


True enough, but how about f1.4, f1.2 or f1.0?

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Nov 14, 2020 16:41:40   #
PhotogHobbyist Loc: Bradford, PA
 
Back when I first began in photography there were zero (or near zero) zoom lenses, they were all prime. My first SLR came with a 55mm 1.8 lens. A couple months later I got a 400mm 6.3 and later still a 35mm 2.8, 135mm 3.5 extension bellows and a 2X TC. The 400mm cost me around $45 and the others were a package deal for around $135. I still have all the extra lenses and a replacement for the camera. All are in perfect working condition.

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Nov 14, 2020 16:49:50   #
TriX Loc: Raleigh, NC
 
I think lots of photographers start with zooms for their “cover anything” and versatility, but gravitate toward primes as they progress for their light weight/size, speed and subject isolation/bokeh.

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Nov 14, 2020 17:45:31   #
gener202002
 
CHG_CANON wrote:
Try a new thread and post some JPEG examples of problem focus, being sure to store the file attachment. From the embedded EOS data from the camera and lens, we should be able to see some ideas.

Regarding EF 50mm options, the aperture and build quality make a difference like metal and f/1.2L is $$$$ and f/1.4 is mid $$$ and plastic ish f/1.8 is low $$$.



Thank you, I will try to do that in the very near future. I am having an ongoing discussion with shutterstock.com right now with some pictures they say are out of focus, and I say they are not, and they have been accepted by other agencies.


However, I am not a pro, and have basic camera skills. Retired and do not have the resources to make expensive camera choices. But I want to do what I can.

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Nov 14, 2020 17:47:43   #
gener202002
 
Leitz wrote:
You basically have two choices here - use small apertures or invest in a tilt/shift lens. Shift is not needed for depth of field, but unless you're talking medium or large format, I don't think anyone makes a lens with tilt function only.



Thank you

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Nov 14, 2020 17:55:28   #
CHG_CANON Loc: the Windy City
 
gener202002 wrote:
Thank you, I will try to do that in the very near future. I am having an ongoing discussion with shutterstock.com right now with some pictures they say are out of focus, and I say they are not, and they have been accepted by other agencies.


However, I am not a pro, and have basic camera skills. Retired and do not have the resources to make expensive camera choices. But I want to do what I can.


Another set of eyes on UHH could be cheaper than buying new equipment.

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Nov 14, 2020 19:41:26   #
Mac Loc: Pittsburgh, Philadelphia now Hernando Co. Fl.
 
MountainDave wrote:
Like most people, I use zooms mostly and I have a few of Canon's finest. But I try to use my primes as much as possible. Attaching one to my camera gives me more of a sense of seriousness and I anticipate making some really compelling images that just don't seem possible even with the best zooms. I've been surprised how many photographers, even serious ones with expensive equipment, don't own a single prime. Everyone should at least own a nifty fifty where if nothing else, you can experiment with the shallow depth of field at 1.8 that's not available in any zoom. And it's as sharp or sharper than even the best zooms. Another I like is the 40mm pancake. While not as fast as the 50, it's a bit sharper and smaller. I find it to be extremely versatile with closeups, landscapes and anything else. You can just stick it in your pocket. At 179., this a gift from Canon. One more: the 135 2.0L. I call this my magic lens because it produces magic images. It's been on the market since 1996 and some still say it's Canon's best lens ever! Since Canon just raised the price of the 100 2.8L, the 135 is now the cheapest L series prime, a relative bargain. I invite others who use primes to make recommendations to help out our primeless brethren!
Like most people, I use zooms mostly and I have a ... (show quote)


Primes

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Nov 14, 2020 19:58:50   #
MountainDave
 
CHG_CANON wrote:
You've beat me to a topic I've been kicking around for the past few weeks ... I agree about the 135L. When you have the 135L mounted, there's nothing you can't point it at and fail to create an great image. Add an EF25 extension tube to the 135L and you have an excellent close-up / macro lens. For years, my 35L was my 'documentary' lens, either on a cropped sensor for a 50mm ish FoV or on a full-frame body. Although this lens has been out a lot in the past few weeks, I've found my style (or maybe my subjects) has changed to a 24mm prime. The 24mm is an older FD prime mounted to a Sony mirrorless. Maybe the migration to smaller IBIS-enabled bodies will breathe new life into typically smaller and non-IS prime lenses?
You've beat me to a topic I've been kicking around... (show quote)


I saw an interview with Canon's Rudy (forgot last name) about the R5 & 6. He specifically mentioned the 135 would benefit from IBIS and eye tracking. Presumably all non IS lenses would benefit to one degree or another although I personally don't think IS is very important on short focal lengths. Most of my short lenses don't have it.

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Nov 14, 2020 20:03:32   #
gener202002
 
CHG_CANON wrote:
Another set of eyes on UHH could be cheaper than buying new equipment.



Thanks again. I just posted a new post regarding this issue. It has a picture it in for review. As I looked at it I think the sky replacement is a bit of a problem as well. I think I will post the picture with the original sky in it as well. Adobe's sky replacement is a wonderful tool but I think they need to do some fixing on it as it seems to affect the main picture as well. It does appear that the grass in the front of the picture is out of focus more than I first thought, and that is indicative of the problem I am having getting the whole picture in focus.

Gene

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Nov 14, 2020 20:30:05   #
CHG_CANON Loc: the Windy City
 
MountainDave wrote:
I saw an interview with Canon's Rudy (forgot last name) about the R5 & 6. He specifically mentioned the 135 would benefit from IBIS and eye tracking. Presumably all non IS lenses would benefit to one degree or another although I personally don't think IS is very important on short focal lengths. Most of my short lenses don't have it.


My probably most used lenses of 2020 are the 16-35 f/4L IS on an EOS film body and the FD 24L on an IBIS-enabled Sony body. With either / both, I'm shooting down to about 1/5 sec after dark, well below what I can reasonable hand-hold. Always there support really expands what you're willing to try in low light, or holding the camera oddly to get at something I can't reach with good shooting technique.

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Nov 14, 2020 22:04:32   #
Ourspolair
 
Just waiting for my RB654 to E-mount adapter so that I can use my Mamaya primes on the new Alpha 7c... Still using a Nikon "nifty 50" and a 40mm Micro prime on the D90 and D5500. I find the 40mm 2.8 is great for panos on the D5500. Thanks for sharing - please stay well.

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Nov 15, 2020 03:17:35   #
mwsilvers Loc: Central New Jersey
 
MountainDave wrote:
I also find I concentrate more on framing or look for scenes that would specifically benefit from the focal length in use. I also experiment more. It's all too easy to get lazy with a zoom. I have that 35 lens too. terrific.

Dave



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Nov 15, 2020 03:18:08   #
mwsilvers Loc: Central New Jersey
 
User ID wrote:
Yup.

Primes strengthen your synapses and enhance your awareness of perspective.



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