Plant-based meat products
Nov 12, 2020 10:36:56 #
tomad wrote:
Yes, vegetarians as well as people diagnosed with certain cholesterol related diseases tend to be the ones that exclusively use them. I have a close friend who is convinced he will live forever if he eats only plant based products. He's also terrified of having a stroke and someone convinced him the red meat is the prime contributor to those. I've tried the Impossible Whopper and could not tell it from the real thing, but generally, I love my beef, pork, and chicken meat.
And people who keep kosher.
Nov 12, 2020 11:05:04 #
Mr. SONY wrote:
No plant based steak is going to taste like one of these.
We are having steak tonight, as well. Those shots made my mouth water, too. These “plant based meat” products seem to have proliferated after AOC announced that we will be getting rid of cows in order to reduce methane gas in the atmosphere. Did someone panic and start make veggie burgers that are supposed to resemble meat? No thanks. As long as cows are around, I’ll eat the beef.
Nov 12, 2020 11:13:59 #
Wingpilot wrote:
We are having steak tonight, as well. Those shots made my mouth water, too. These “plant based meat” products seem to have proliferated after AOC announced that we will be getting rid of cows in order to reduce methane gas in the atmosphere. Did someone panic and start make veggie burgers that are supposed to resemble meat? No thanks. As long as cows are around, I’ll eat the beef.
There is much more that goes into the environment growing crops on a large scale than there is harm from "cow farts and belches". It takes massive industrial complexes that consume large amounts of energy that are generated from carbon based power plants to make the farm gear. Making the tires alone is a nasty process energy consuming process.
Then there is the energy required to till the soil and the carbon of the fuel and the expelled exhaust. Chemicals used to fertilize along with insecticides are factories with immense power consumption as well as contributors to pollution. Then there is the energy required to transport it and the energy and resources required to make the large trucks that transport it. The list goes on and on.
There's an often used saying that goes, "If God did not want us to eat animals, he wouldn't have made them taste so good..!"
Nov 12, 2020 11:15:56 #
sippyjug104 wrote:
There is much more that goes into the environment ... (show quote)
You are correct there.
Nov 12, 2020 11:31:19 #
Wingpilot wrote:
You are correct there.
AND...there is more to impact on the environment than one may believe to be at first blush. For example, The farming equipment manufacturer John Deere employed over 74.4 thousand people in 2018, this is a sharp increase from the previous year, when the company had about 60.5 thousand employees.
Each of these employees travel to and from work in some fashion that consumes energy which is surely carbon based for the most part...even electric cars rely on power plant generation to create the power to charge their batteries.
Then...even something as simple as 74.4 thousand people using the toilet room facilities requires energy to transport the waste, infrastructure to treat it, chemicals to sanitize it to reduce pollution and the spread of disease and of course the energy consumed to build those infrastructures and that work there and maintain them. Even disposing of the trash and garbage from the employee lunch rooms has a large impact on the world's resources.
It's a never ending circle of energy consumption and environmental impact.
Nov 12, 2020 11:32:23 #
belliamphotos
Loc: Calgary, AB
I'm a vegetarian. I sometimes don't mind a veggie burger. I love the taste of burgers, with all the fixings but not the meat. I like mushroom burgers or the black bean burgers. I personally don't love the meat substitutes.
I cannot digest meats properly so I chose not to eat it. To each their own. My husband eats a lot of meat. He happily eats my vegetarian dinners when I make them and requests dinners with meat which I happily make for him as well.
I have several vegan friends who like the texture of the meat substitutes in their meals but cannot and will not eat meat.
I cannot digest meats properly so I chose not to eat it. To each their own. My husband eats a lot of meat. He happily eats my vegetarian dinners when I make them and requests dinners with meat which I happily make for him as well.
I have several vegan friends who like the texture of the meat substitutes in their meals but cannot and will not eat meat.
Nov 12, 2020 11:34:34 #
tomad
Loc: North Carolina
[quote=BboH]
A lot of those fanatics eat black bean burgers and lots of beans in general as that is one of the best sources of plant based protein... when I eat beans, I burp and fart a lot... it could be a wash; less burping and farting cows, more burping and farting fanatics, so maybe we should reduce the fanatics in the world.
amfoto1 wrote:
It's politically correct food!
There's a fanatical group out there that would like to drastically reduce the cows in the world because their farts and burps contribute to climate change (the cows' farts, that is... not the fanatics').
You took the words out of my mouth - and did a better job than I would have.
There's a fanatical group out there that would like to drastically reduce the cows in the world because their farts and burps contribute to climate change (the cows' farts, that is... not the fanatics').
You took the words out of my mouth - and did a better job than I would have.
A lot of those fanatics eat black bean burgers and lots of beans in general as that is one of the best sources of plant based protein... when I eat beans, I burp and fart a lot... it could be a wash; less burping and farting cows, more burping and farting fanatics, so maybe we should reduce the fanatics in the world.
Nov 12, 2020 11:37:48 #
Bison Bud wrote:
There has been plant-based meat substitute product... (show quote)
The use and popularity of so-called plant-based meat substitutes is just an attempt by the fast food places to make a profit. They will tell you anything they can think of to influence you to give up your money for the latest and greatest. And so that's called marketing and applies to any product you can think of. This is just an attempt, in this case, by the fast-food folks to gain a percentage of this new revenue avenue. They will continue to push this vegan idea as long as john q public will listen to them and purchase whatever it is they are pushing. As far as your health if it were not for the FDA there is no telling what these fast food places would be pushing us to put into our bodies. There will always be vegans and non-vegans but fads come and go.
Nov 12, 2020 11:42:33 #
So what? If those 74 thousand people stayed home, they would still consume energy and use the toilet. BTW, John Deer is an American company that sells products around the world, and contributes to the nation's economy and balance of payments. You benefit from that.
Nov 12, 2020 11:45:33 #
No matter what we do, energy is used. The inescapable fact is that energy, being what it is, can neither be created or destroyed. We may use it, even lots of it, but we can’t run out of it. We may run out of ways or the ability to supply it in one form or another, but we’ll always have energy, the ultimate renewable resource.
Nov 12, 2020 12:24:04 #
kenArchi
Loc: Seal Beach, CA
My niece didn't have enough protein for bone growth when she became a vegan. Had to have both femurs broken, rods inserted for additional 1 inch growth.
Nov 12, 2020 12:27:16 #
Nov 12, 2020 12:49:12 #
I’ ve been pescatarian (fish) for about 50 years now. Why eat this fake meat? Eating burgers is fun! In fact, with the cooking, stacking of toppers, handholding the whole thing, burgers are a ritualized activity, frequently the center of social interactions. When everyone else is having beef burgers, why not let us veggies enjoy as well? The taste of the soy burgers used to be pretty blah, but the ones coming out recently are a great improvement.
Nov 12, 2020 13:10:19 #
kenArchi
Loc: Seal Beach, CA
Japanese people who began eating western food (hamburgers) were growing bigger.
In 1836 the sailors working the Calif. coast getting cow hides started growing stronger and healthy by eating beef at all meals.
2 Years Before the Mast, Dana Henry .
In 1836 the sailors working the Calif. coast getting cow hides started growing stronger and healthy by eating beef at all meals.
2 Years Before the Mast, Dana Henry .
Nov 12, 2020 13:25:21 #
LoisCroft
Loc: Jonesborough, Tennessee
I sometimes use the fake meat, but it all depends on what I am making. The fake ground beef is good if highly spiced, the chicken nuggets - not so much. I prefer eating things that are not pretending to be something else. Stir fry veg with noodles is great. The good thing is that there are some good vegan frozen dinners out there.
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