btbg

I believe that number seven is probably true. There is evidence from older studies that does suggest that mask wearing lowers immunity.

btbg

You have just hit on a key point why mask wearing is ineffective. Most people wear the same mask over and over and seldom wash it. They do indeed become incubators of disease. Not a good thing. Another reason to not wear masks. What you say people in your corporation are doing probably is at least partially effective. Wearing masks the way most people do is not only not effective, it may increase the wearers chances of getting the disease. I know that I washed mine for the first time this month today, and didn't get in hot enough to actually sterilize it. I'm sure that a lot of people do the same thing. They just become incubators.

btbg

That's the right of a business to have standards. That is not the same thing as government dictating behavior.

letmedance Loc: Walnut, Ca.

You all are making a mistake, the CDC said that 70% of those that tested positive wore masks.

cwp3420

When did you get your MD, Dr. Denny?

DaveO Loc: Northeast CT

The point was the masks were not advertised to protect the wearer.

Rose42

People seem to forget about also the social distancing and basic hygiene like washing hands. All three are needed. There's no point in wearing a mask if you don't wear them properly and most I see don't. So its useless if you're wearing one and have the virus, touch your face then touch a bunch of surfaces thus passing it on to others. The mask nazis forget about the little things. Lol

I wear one when needed but never outside.

thom w Loc: San Jose, CA

I'd like to see the study that shows over 70% of mask wearers have gotten Covid.

thom w Loc: San Jose, CA

Did Alex tell you that?

thom w Loc: San Jose, CA

What is your disability that precludes proof reading?

Tex-s

You touched on a very real issue about 'proper mask wearing'. There is a really clear cause and affect for this phenomenon. Partisanship. About half the nation steadfastly refuses (with GOOD reason) to believe the mainstream media and about half worship the idol of MSM. The fallout is that about half the folks wearing masks are doing so because they were MANDATED to do so, and not at all because they believe there is a point to doing so. Thus, their "technique" is suspect. This microcosm event within a clearly MACRO issue illustrates a point I've tried to teach for 30 years now.

Persuasion is ALWAYS a better policy than compulsion. Those who convert are always more devoted to the new view, the new policy, or the new faith than those FORCED into compliance. It is true for toddlers and sharing. It's true about drug use, drinking, speeding, sexual activity, overtime, insurance, and masks. Voluntary choices in these realms are make because of convictions and will be made consistently and with care, possibly creating new converts, but mandated compliance will be spotty at best.

The best example I can cite is a girls' sports group at a school in which I was a boys coach at the time. The girls in the group were, one by one, becoming "indiscriminate" in their sexual choices (some as young as 14). A former player, who had had her first child literally 7 months after graduation, and before her 19th birthday, set up a team 'party' at her house. The party became an intervention, with the team being involved with bathing, diapering, laundry, etc, and for good measure, 'mom' called every girl at 1 and 4 and 7 when the baby was up and feeding. That one meeting converted a dozen young ladies into a new line of thinking, and to my knowledge, not one of them had a child before marriage. Their daddies could not have sat on the couch with a shotgun and gotten better results.

This issue alone, mandates, not masks per se, would be enough to keep me out of the DEM tent, but alas, this affinity for mandates is a distant 10th or so on my list of reasons to vote against the left, even if that means voting "for" President Trump.

letmedance Loc: Walnut, Ca.

The point I made is that some were not understanding the article. I feel it says a lot about the safety provided by the mask, if those infected had not been wearing masks the toll would be higher.

In Asia almost anyone in Asia that has a respiratory disease will wear a mask to stop the spread. I have traveled extensively and lived in Asia for some years, they take precautions to slow or stop the spread. I was in Taiwan last winter and as early as January 1st basically the entire nation was masked, school was shut down for only 3 weeks, business operated as usual with no lockdowns, air travel to and from China was stopped, anyone entering the country was confined to either their home or in the case of visitors to a hole room for 14 days. Check on Taiwan's CV19 numbers and see what an early start can do, they did have better info on the disease than did the WHO because of the close ties with mainland China.

letmedance Loc: Walnut, Ca.

Have you been following the conversation or did you just jump in. Some misunderstood what the study says.