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Oct 15, 2020 23:23:39   #
boberic Loc: Quiet Corner, Connecticut. Ex long Islander
 
There is growing evidence that the wearing masks don't prevent covid infection. Turn out, accordin to the CDC over70% of mask wearers got covid any way. There is also evidence that lockdowns do more harm than good, as the risk for those under 70 is the same as yearly flu.

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Oct 16, 2020 01:28:44   #
tramsey Loc: Texas
 
This subject has been hammered so much it is old meat. Just go ahead, think what you want to think and do what you want to do but stay away from me. I will NOT be coming to your funeral becasue your friend will all be thinking like you. I'll just keep following the rules and staying healthy

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Oct 16, 2020 01:38:59   #
soba1 Loc: Somewhere In So Ca
 
It’s all about conditioning and control

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Oct 16, 2020 04:07:40   #
tradio Loc: Oxford, Ohio
 
soba1 wrote:
It’s all about conditioning and control


I think you hit the nail on the head.

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Oct 16, 2020 04:43:01   #
DaveO Loc: Northeast CT
 
boberic wrote:
There is growing evidence that the wearing masks don't prevent covid infection. Turn out, accordin to the CDC over70% of mask wearers got covid any way. There is also evidence that lockdowns do more harm than good, as the risk for those under 70 is the same as yearly flu.


Where have you been that you're just now gaining this hot information?

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Oct 16, 2020 09:21:11   #
btbg
 
boberic wrote:
There is growing evidence that the wearing masks don't prevent covid infection. Turn out, accordin to the CDC over70% of mask wearers got covid any way. There is also evidence that lockdowns do more harm than good, as the risk for those under 70 is the same as yearly flu.


I've been trying to make that point over and over. They don't listen and they won't look at the evidence. You are wasting your time.

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Oct 16, 2020 09:30:52   #
Bill 45
 
tramsey wrote:
This subject has been hammered so much it is old meat. Just go ahead, think what you want to think and do what you want to do but stay away from me. I will NOT be coming to your funeral becasue your friend will all be thinking like you. I'll just keep following the rules and staying healthy


You said it all, I with you.

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Oct 16, 2020 09:35:36   #
DaveO Loc: Northeast CT
 
btbg wrote:
I've been trying to make that point over and over. They don't listen and they won't look at the evidence. You are wasting your time.


You guys are the ones who are arguing that there is much evidence that masks do not protect the wearer. That conclusion was reached months ago. The fact is that it greatly reduces the wearer from spreading the virus to others.

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Oct 16, 2020 09:46:19   #
DennyT Loc: Central Missouri woods
 
boberic wrote:
There is growing evidence that the wearing masks don't prevent covid infection. Turn out, accordin to the CDC over70% of mask wearers got covid any way. There is also evidence that lockdowns do more harm than good, as the risk for those under 70 is the same as yearly flu.


Pure political spin and misinterpretation of CDC.


From the CDC after they saw so many fools spin the data to support their political side.

A recent
@CDCMMWR
looking at exposures among people w/ and w/o #COVID19 also assessed rates of mask use. However, the interpretation that more mask-wearers are getting infected compared to non-mask wearers is incorrect.



Let’s end this nonesense before more people die because of it.

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Oct 16, 2020 09:55:56   #
DaveO Loc: Northeast CT
 
DennyT wrote:
Pure political spin and misinterpretation of CDC.


From the CDC after they saw so many fools spin the data to support their political side.

A recent
@CDCMMWR
looking at exposures among people w/ and w/o #COVID19 also assessed rates of mask use. However, the interpretation that more mask-wearers are getting infected compared to non-mask wearers is incorrect.



Let’s end this nonesense before more people die because of it.


Unbelievable what political posturing can do!

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Oct 16, 2020 10:23:31   #
boberic Loc: Quiet Corner, Connecticut. Ex long Islander
 
DaveO wrote:
Unbelievable what political posturing can do!


Covid 19 is the only viral disease thyat CASES have been counted and given so much improtance. N1H1 virus did not count cases. We don't know the number. If I were to say that thyere were 1 1hhundred million CASES no one could deny this as cases were not counted. Annoying ffacts abbout civid.. 222 thousand deaths, 8 million cases. % of deaths about 4. We do not know this percenrage about many diseases, as cases are not counted. THe question then remains---Is a lockdown necessary when there is a 96% survival rate. What is the survival rate of the seasonal flu?? NOBODY KNOWS. I just noticed that there are many typos. My keyoard has many sticky keys, I need a new keyboard. Will have it in a ffew days.

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Oct 16, 2020 10:32:10   #
DennyT Loc: Central Missouri woods
 
boberic wrote:
Covid 19 is the only viral disease thyat CASES have been counted and given so much improtance. N1H1 virus did not count cases. We don't know the number. If I were to say that thyere were 1 1hhundred million CASES no one could deny this as cases were not counted. Annoying ffacts abbout civid.. 222 thousand deaths, 8 million cases. % of deaths about 4. We do not know this percenrage about many diseases, as cases are not counted. THe question then remains---Is a lockdown necessary when there is a 96% survival rate. What is the survival rate of the seasonal flu?? NOBODY KNOWS. I just noticed that there are many typos. My keyoard has many sticky keys, I need a new keyboard. Will have it in a ffew days.
Covid 19 is the only viral disease thyat CASES hav... (show quote)


America 4% of world population
20+% of world deaths


How’s that for the country that has the “best” healthcare in the world ?
What’s missing
Leadership !!

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Oct 16, 2020 10:33:33   #
DaveO Loc: Northeast CT
 
boberic wrote:
Covid 19 is the only viral disease thyat CASES have been counted and given so much improtance. N1H1 virus did not count cases. We don't know the number. If I were to say that thyere were 1 1hhundred million CASES no one could deny this as cases were not counted. Annoying ffacts abbout civid.. 222 thousand deaths, 8 million cases. % of deaths about 4. We do not know this percenrage about many diseases, as cases are not counted. THe question then remains---Is a lockdown necessary when there is a 96% survival rate. What is the survival rate of the seasonal flu?? NOBODY KNOWS.
Covid 19 is the only viral disease thyat CASES hav... (show quote)


My remarks were specifically addressing the mask issue.

My only remark regarding lockdown is that it appears that there would hopefully be no need for such measures if all were to follow the guidelines including masking and social distancing.

To attempt to interpret the numbers is at best difficult, but there are surely many deaths and unknown complications that will occur.

Roughly half of the US take the flue vaccine and I doubt covid vaccines will fare any better. Neither malady is going to go away, particularly with low levels of compliance.

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Oct 16, 2020 10:57:09   #
DennyT Loc: Central Missouri woods
 
DaveO wrote:
My remarks were specifically addressing the mask issue.

My only remark regarding lockdown is that it appears that there would hopefully be no need for such measures if all were to follow the guidelines including masking and social distancing.

To attempt to interpret the numbers is at best difficult, but there are surely many deaths and unknown complications that will occur.

Roughly half of the US take the flue vaccine and I doubt covid vaccines will fare any better. Neither malady is going to go away, particularly with low levels of compliance.
My remarks were specifically addressing the mask i... (show quote)


That’s what deniers do when pinned down on one subject the pivot to another and another..

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Oct 16, 2020 10:59:58   #
DaveO Loc: Northeast CT
 
DennyT wrote:
That’s what deniers do when pinned down on one subject the pivot to another and another..


I think that we are so beat up with good and bad information that it can be overwhelming and begins to blend in.

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