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Jul 5, 2020 23:00:20   #
boberic Loc: Quiet Corner, Connecticut. Ex long Islander
 
The tearing down of our monuments by the followers, even if hey don't they are, of the socialist leadership can be explained in one sentence/ If we don't have a past, we have no future. And that socialist leadership will make that future a socialist one. This wole episode follows the Cloward and Piven of Columbia University, script. Be very careful. If the people do not wake up the country may never recover. But I feel that the sheep will be led down the path to a socialist/communist future. Am I wrong? I hope so

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Jul 6, 2020 02:42:18   #
travelwp Loc: New Jersey
 
boberic wrote:
Am I wrong?


NO, you are absolutely right !

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Jul 6, 2020 04:48:15   #
Harry0 Loc: Gardena, Cal
 
WE have bred our own new Taliban.
Our very own version of holocaust-deniers.
Tear it all down.
Start over.
No history = new future.

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Jul 6, 2020 07:08:09   #
Kraken Loc: Barry's Bay
 
Harry0 wrote:
WE have bred our own new Taliban.
Our very own version of holocaust-deniers.
Tear it all down.
Start over.
No history = new future.



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Jul 6, 2020 08:35:00   #
Frank T Loc: New York, NY
 
These monuments are so necessary. I mean, look at Germany. No one remembers WWII because there aren't any statues of Hitler to remind them.
Truth is, that the monuments of Confederate traitors should never have been erected in the first place. Most of them were put up in the early 20th Century and truly were put there as a reminder of white supremacy. Honoring the fallen has nothing to do with it. Jefferson Davis, Robert E. Lee, and the others were traitors and should have been hanged at the end of the war but Lincoln didn't think it was a good idea.
Apparently, Booth wasn't opposed to killing and like a coward, he shot Lincoln in the back of his head so he wouldn't have to see him.
I'm somewhat surprised that the southern states don't have a statue of Booth.

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Jul 6, 2020 09:14:40   #
Rose42
 
Frank T wrote:
These monuments are so necessary. I mean, look at Germany. No one remembers WWII because there aren't any statues of Hitler to remind them.
Truth is, that the monuments of Confederate traitors should never have been erected in the first place. Most of them were put up in the early 20th Century and truly were put there as a reminder of white supremacy. Honoring the fallen has nothing to do with it. Jefferson Davis, Robert E. Lee, and the others were traitors and should have been hanged at the end of the war but Lincoln didn't think it was a good idea.
Apparently, Booth wasn't opposed to killing and like a coward, he shot Lincoln in the back of his head so he wouldn't have to see him.
I'm somewhat surprised that the southern states don't have a statue of Booth.
These monuments are so necessary. I mean, look at... (show quote)


The Booth comment was particularly ignorant.

Germany still has many reminders of Hitler - they didn’t destroy everything. And Germans can buy a copy of Mein Kampf. Using ‘Frank logic’ that means The German government wants to eradicate the Jews.

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Jul 6, 2020 09:59:22   #
LWW Loc: Banana Republic of America
 
Harry0 wrote:
WE have bred our own new Taliban.
Our very own version of holocaust-deniers.
Tear it all down.
Start over.
No history = new future.


'Who controls the past controls the future. Who controls the present controls the past.'
-BIG BROTHER-1984-

The slogan is an important example of the Party’s technique of using false history to break down the psychological independence of its subjects. Control of the past ensures control of the future, because the past can be treated essentially as a set of conditions that justify or encourage future goals: if the past was idyllic, then people will act to re-create it; if the past was nightmarish, then people will act to prevent such circumstances from recurring. The Party creates a past that was a time of misery and slavery from which it claims to have liberated the human race, thus compelling people to work toward the Party’s goals.

Orwell was a profit, and the Bidets/Obamatron/Rachelbots are obediently proving Orwell was a prophet ... thugocracy could not thrive without such fools.

https://www.sparknotes.com/lit/1984/quotes/page/2/

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Jul 6, 2020 10:09:59   #
Frank T Loc: New York, NY
 
Rose42 wrote:
The Booth comment was particularly ignorant.

Germany still has many reminders of Hitler - they didn’t destroy everything. And Germans can buy a copy of Mein Kampf. Using ‘Frank logic’ that means The German government wants to eradicate the Jews.


What are you talking about?
You are truly misguided or demented. What in anything I wrote suggests that the German government wants to eradicate Jews?
Please, as scary as it may be, let me take a peek inside your brain.

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Jul 6, 2020 10:14:44   #
IDguy Loc: Idaho
 
Frank T wrote:
These monuments are so necessary. I mean, look at Germany. No one remembers WWII because there aren't any statues of Hitler to remind them.
Truth is, that the monuments of Confederate traitors should never have been erected in the first place. Most of them were put up in the early 20th Century and truly were put there as a reminder of white supremacy. Honoring the fallen has nothing to do with it. Jefferson Davis, Robert E. Lee, and the others were traitors and should have been hanged at the end of the war but Lincoln didn't think it was a good idea.
Apparently, Booth wasn't opposed to killing and like a coward, he shot Lincoln in the back of his head so he wouldn't have to see him.
I'm somewhat surprised that the southern states don't have a statue of Booth.
These monuments are so necessary. I mean, look at... (show quote)


Yes, the last assertion is nonsense.

I suspect most people would agree that statues honoring the Confederacy have no place in most public settings today. But their removal should be by civil processes not by rioting mobs. Some States and towns have done that.

I have no idea what the motivation was of those who put them up. You’d have to read the declarations to get an idea.

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Jul 6, 2020 11:11:04   #
boberic Loc: Quiet Corner, Connecticut. Ex long Islander
 
IDguy wrote:
Yes, the last assertion is nonsense.

I suspect most people would agree that statues honoring the Confederacy have no place in most public settings today. But their removal should be by civil processes not by rioting mobs. Some States and towns have done that.

I have no idea what the motivation was of those who put them up. You’d have to read the declarations to get an idea.

You can look at those confederate status as a reminder of what we should not do. You ask high school Gradustes. when was the civil war? They have no idea. Ask then who did we fight in the civil war? they don't know. Those kind of things are not being taught today. The liberal teachers-and professors., are no longer teaching, they are indoctrinating. As above--those who don't have a past-don't have a future. The liberal/socialists know this, and are using the peoples ignorance to control them

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Jul 6, 2020 11:55:25   #
Rose42
 
Frank T wrote:
What are you talking about?
You are truly misguided or demented. What in anything I wrote suggests that the German government wants to eradicate Jews?
Please, as scary as it may be, let me take a peek inside your brain.


I didn't say you said that. Reading comprehension matters.

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Jul 6, 2020 12:07:10   #
Frank T Loc: New York, NY
 
Rose42 wrote:
I didn't say you said that. Reading comprehension matters.


Apparently, your short term memory is already suffering from dementia.
Here's the exact quote from your post: "Using ‘Frank logic’ that means The German government wants to eradicate the Jews"

I can only conclude that if you do not have dementia, your just a liar and a fraud.

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Jul 6, 2020 12:21:39   #
Rose42
 
Frank T wrote:
Apparently, your short term memory is already suffering from dementia.
Here's the exact quote from your post: "Using ‘Frank logic’ that means The German government wants to eradicate the Jews"

I can only conclude that if you do not have dementia, your just a liar and a fraud.


No Frank, I don't lie - that's your department and you've been caught many times. Its pretty amazing you didn't understand what I was saying.

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Jul 6, 2020 12:28:32   #
Frank T Loc: New York, NY
 
Rose42 wrote:
No Frank, I don't lie - that's your department and you've been caught many times. Its pretty amazing you didn't understand what I was saying.


How do you defend yourself by saying you don't lie when I just documented you lying?
What is wrong with you?

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Jul 6, 2020 12:54:16   #
Rose42
 
Frank T wrote:
How do you defend yourself by saying you don't lie when I just documented you lying?
What is wrong with you?


You didn’t understand what I wrote - you still don’t which I find entertaining. That doesn’t correlate to a lie. Are you really this dense?

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