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Jul 5, 2020 16:08:00   #
sodapop Loc: Bel Air, MD
 
bpulv wrote:
Photoshop is a 32-bit program. That means if you buy a new computer at some point in the future, it will not be compatible with the new 64-bit computers and operating systems. Therefore, instead of buying a 32-bit version of Lightroom, I would upgrade to the Adobe CC package for $10 a month. You will always have the latest versions of Photoshop CC, Lightroom CC, Lightroom Classic CC, Bridge, Camera Raw, Bridge, Premiere Rush and XD and all updates automatically installed as soon as they are released for the one price. Note that Premiere Rush and XD were just added to the package. And, you will be able to able to easily move photographs between Lightroom and Photoshop and back for a smooth, fast workflow.
Photoshop is a 32-bit program. That means if you b... (show quote)


Note that Rush is a 30 free trial version, and requires additional monthly payments after that

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Jul 6, 2020 00:25:08   #
rcarol
 
amfoto1 wrote:
Older versions of LR will often be more expensive than they were when Adobe still supported them! Not much savings.

Maybe you should just get Adobe Elements 2020, which has some aspects of Lightroom and some features of Photoshop, all in one. It's also less expensive than Lightroom sold for, back when LR was available to buy with a perpetual license. It costs $100 for Elements alone. If you also want to work with videos, there's a deal on a bundles of Elements 2020 and Premiere Elements for $150 (normally $100 each, when bought separately).

Occasionally Elements goes on sale. Likely it will do so around Sept. or Oct., which is when Adobe typically announces the next version.

Like Photoshop and Lightroom, there's a lot of support for Elements. There are books and online tutorials to learn to use it. And there are add-ons to make it able to do even more (such as "Elements Plus").

I'd wager a lot of photographers are just wasting money subscribing to Photoshop/Lightroom... even at only $10 a month. They would be just fine with Elements, possibly updating to a newer version every 3 to 5 years. That would cost 1/3 to 1/5 what they will spend on the PS/LR subscription.

If you wish, it's possible to download a free trial of Elements from the Adobe website, to see if you like it. It's at least a 30 day trial (for a while they offered 60 or 90 days, but I don't know if they still do). Before downloading a trial, I recommend getting one of the "how to" books, to have on hand during the trial period, so you can get fast answers to any question you might have.
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The issue that I have with Photoshop Elements is that it is an 8-bit program and often ends up with banding in the skies.

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Jul 6, 2020 12:47:31   #
Harry0 Loc: Gardena, Cal
 
Imnsho, there are basically two compatible kinds of the same Lightroom app.
The "Cloud" version depends on the Internet. Bigger better faster and always new and fresh. Allegedly.
The "Classic" can be run without the internet. Better for traveling laptops, etc. Supposedly.

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Jul 6, 2020 14:12:21   #
DirtFarmer Loc: Escaped from the NYC area, back to MA
 
Harry0 wrote:
Imnsho, there are basically two compatible kinds of the same Lightroom app.
The "Cloud" version depends on the Internet. Bigger better faster and always new and fresh. Allegedly.
The "Classic" can be run without the internet. Better for traveling laptops, etc. Supposedly.


Lightroom comes in cloud and local flavors. They're not quite the same thing. Both of them will get regular updates from the cloud.

I don't use the cloud version but it's my understanding that things are stored in the cloud. That makes it useful for several different computers to work on them.

I use the local version (Lightroom Classic), which stores everything locally: the catalog and the image files. You do need to connect to the internet occasionally to validate the program because it's a subscription. You do need to connect to the internet occasionally to download updates. But if youi don't have internet (or don't want it connected) you can run it for a couple weeks without a connection.

LR Classic is the complete program while the cloud version is a "lite" version.

There are several cloud users on UHH so they will undoubtedly correct any mis-statements here.

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Jul 6, 2020 15:02:29   #
bsprague Loc: Lacey, WA, USA
 
DirtFarmer wrote:
Lightroom comes in cloud and local flavors. They're not quite the same thing. Both of them will get regular updates from the cloud.

I don't use the cloud version but it's my understanding that things are stored in the cloud. That makes it useful for several different computers to work on them.

I use the local version (Lightroom Classic), which stores everything locally: the catalog and the image files. You do need to connect to the internet occasionally to validate the program because it's a subscription. You do need to connect to the internet occasionally to download updates. But if youi don't have internet (or don't want it connected) you can run it for a couple weeks without a connection.

LR Classic is the complete program while the cloud version is a "lite" version.

There are several cloud users on UHH so they will undoubtedly correct any mis-statements here.
Lightroom comes in cloud and local flavors. They'r... (show quote)


The newer cloud version ("Lightroom") is not "lite" but rather different. It might be said it is a more capable "heavier duty" version for people that are more online, phone or website oriented. The older ("Lightroom Classic") might be thought of as more appropriate for print makers.

The two can be connected for automatic synchronization for those that want the best of both. Recently Photoshop opens with an option to edit anything you've got in the cloudy version.

The $10 Adobe plan is moving away from a "pick your app" plan to an "ecosystem" of tools to accomplish anything a photographer might do.

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Jul 6, 2020 16:39:44   #
DirtFarmer Loc: Escaped from the NYC area, back to MA
 
bsprague wrote:
The newer cloud version ("Lightroom") is not "lite" but rather different. It might be said it is a more capable "heavier duty" version for people that are more online, phone or website oriented. The older ("Lightroom Classic") might be thought of as more appropriate for print makers...


I will readily admit to being out of touch with the cloud version. My impression was based on early reports of its liteness. I'm not a mobile guy, being content to sit in my comfortable chair in front of my desktop to work on my images.

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Jul 7, 2020 00:28:19   #
bsprague Loc: Lacey, WA, USA
 
DirtFarmer wrote:
I will readily admit to being out of touch with the cloud version. My impression was based on early reports of its liteness. I'm not a mobile guy, being content to sit in my comfortable chair in front of my desktop to work on my images.


I'm not a mobile guy either. Yet I keep finding situations where someone says, "I want to see that picture." Or, I say, "I want you to see this picture." I don't carry the prints in my wallet anymore. I have a phone. And I'm keeping more and more photos linked from Lightroom Classic to my phone via the cloudy version and Portfolio.

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Jul 7, 2020 01:10:33   #
p-pictures
 
Dziadzi, Sorry to step on your topic but do not Know how to start a new discussion and felt maybe answer for me will help you also. All the light room talk I bought a new version off amazon I believe it was 6 and it worked with my 50d then I added a 80d and it does not read the photos from the 80. What do I do to correct that problem. I still working at trying to figure editing out and do not really feel very comfortable trying to edit what I shoot.

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Jul 7, 2020 01:18:28   #
CHG_CANON Loc: the Windy City
 
p-pictures wrote:
Dziadzi, Sorry to step on your topic but do not Know how to start a new discussion and felt maybe answer for me will help you also. All the light room talk I bought a new version off amazon I believe it was 6 and it worked with my 50d then I added a 80d and it does not read the photos from the 80. What do I do to correct that problem. I still working at trying to figure editing out and do not really feel very comfortable trying to edit what I shoot.


Your question is somewhat related. That it, purchasing any old version of LR needs to at least support your current cameras (for RAW). Adobe publishes this information by camera, and our OP's D7100 is covered by LR6. Your newer 80D is covered as well; however, you need to install the maintenance to get to at least LR6.5. https://helpx.adobe.com/camera-raw/kb/camera-raw-plug-supported-cameras.html. The servers at Adobe no longer respond to 'update' requests. Try this link to see if you can save a local file from the link and then try to install the upgrade:

Windows x64
http://prdl-download.adobe.com/Lightroom/60BA1251F1BC48B8B82B1B63AE8E620E/1552643270580/Lightroom_6_LS11.exe

MAC OS
http://prdl-download.adobe.com/Lightroom/60BA1251F1BC48B8B82B1B63AE8E620E/1552642986882/Lightroom_6_LS11.dmg

When the update is successful, the LR6 software should report the final v6.14 update.

BTW: all RAW files are unique to the specific camera model. They may 'seem' the same given the consist file extensions, but the contents are unique per camera. Much of the ongoing maintenance of all digital editing software packages is RAW maintenance support, not new bells and whistles and major performance improvements.

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Jul 7, 2020 08:30:59   #
JD750 Loc: SoCal
 
p-pictures wrote:
Dziadzi, Sorry to step on your topic but do not Know how to start a new discussion and felt maybe answer for me will help you also. All the light room talk I bought a new version off amazon I believe it was 6 and it worked with my 50d then I added a 80d and it does not read the photos from the 80. What do I do to correct that problem. I still working at trying to figure editing out and do not really feel very comfortable trying to edit what I shoot.


For future reference, if you want to start a new discussion, at the top of the UHH web page click “Create New Topic” and then type a title and type your question and press send.

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