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Mar 20, 2020 14:15:45   #
Los-Angeles-Shooter Loc: Los Angeles
 
The girl is a cutie and the 3rd shot has lots of personality. It is also nicely styled and propped.

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Mar 20, 2020 14:18:35   #
rmalarz Loc: Tempe, Arizona
 
In reference to 'Gasman', there was a sprint car driver who raced in Phoenix and was one of the winningest drivers around here. Richard 'The Gasman' Griffin. I guess you'd suggest he change his moniker, as well.

However, more to the point, you seem to spend as much time defending your "artistic" posts than most. There has to be a reason for that. As pointed out more than once, your snapshots border on porn. This post is no different, a series of snapshots and rather mediocre at that. The few that you did post somewhat recently were complimented quite nicely. Then, you post some diatribe that brought that thread right to the basement.

Your casting aspersions and denigrations at so many others might cause one to question whether or not you might be out of step instead of the numerous others. But not you. You steadfastly forge right ahead.

Another minor aspect is this "one a day" theme. I've found that placing requirements of 'one a day', 'one a week', etc. to inspire one to take photographs can lead to simply taking photos for the sake of meeting a commitment and not for the purpose of doing quality work. If I were to be searching for evidence of this theory addressing the "so many/unit of time", I'd consider your work exemplary.
--Bob

Timmers wrote:
That might be a reasonable but conservative observation some years back, but in case you did not notice the date of 2020 you perhaps may want to get with the times. This is what we moderns call 'erotic'. Also to assist you in a more meaningful understanding of 'porn' or 'pornography', that is a commercial enterprise, and I don't traffic in the mass sale nor distribution of that commercial activity. That would be insulting to The Hog.

By the by, your 'handle' of Gasman, sadly it has already been taken may years ago in Gunter Gras book The Tin Drum, it is a reference to Hitler being The Gasman who murdered so many in the concentration camps of WW II. You may want to re-think you 'name'.
That might be a reasonable but conservative observ... (show quote)

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Mar 20, 2020 14:24:51   #
Timmers Loc: San Antonio Texas.
 
haze63 wrote:
I am not backing either side.
I only know you can make the choice to look OR not


Absolutely true!
But do not look at this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7_qxFjk4BIk&feature=youtu.be

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Mar 20, 2020 14:25:47   #
Timmers Loc: San Antonio Texas.
 
Los-Angeles-Shooter wrote:
The girl is a cutie and the 3rd shot has lots of personality. It is also nicely styled and propped.


You guys in Cali! Huba-huba!!!

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Mar 20, 2020 14:40:35   #
Timmers Loc: San Antonio Texas.
 
rmalarz wrote:
In reference to 'Gasman', there was a sprint car driver who raced in Phoenix and was one of the winningest drivers around here. Richard 'The Gasman' Griffin. I guess you'd suggest he change his moniker, as well.

However, more to the point, you seem to spend as much time defending your "artistic" posts than most. There has to be a reason for that. As pointed out more than once, your snapshots border on porn. This post is no different, a series of snapshots and rather mediocre at that. The few that you did post somewhat recently were complimented quite nicely. Then, you post some diatribe that brought that thread right to the basement.

Your casting aspersions and denigrations at so many others might cause one to question whether or not you might be out of step instead of the numerous others. But not you. You steadfastly forge right ahead.

Another minor aspect is this "one a day" theme. I've found that placing requirements of 'one a day', 'one a week', etc. to inspire one to take photographs can lead to simply taking photos for the sake of meeting a commitment and not for the purpose of doing quality work. If I were to be searching for evidence of this theory addressing the "so many/unit of time", I'd consider your work exemplary.
--Bob
In reference to 'Gasman', there was a sprint car d... (show quote)


This:
"However, more to the point, you seem to spend as much time defending your "artistic" posts than most. There has to be a reason for that. As pointed out more than once, your snapshots border on porn. This post is no different, a series of snapshots and rather mediocre at that. The few that you did post somewhat recently were complimented quite nicely. Then, you post some diatribe that brought that thread right to the basement. "

It's not a basement, it's my Cedar Closet, but instead of basement just call it "underground' like so many others. But that would only encourage me, Underground Man, aka Fyodor Mikhailovich Dostoevsky.

There not "artistic", they are artistic, I got the credentials to confirm that position. Your assertion of 'snapshot', well that is cover as well, and dear Bob, your a boob speaking out of the side of your mindless mouth, these are not the derogatory termed snap shot, but why bother, you just sling your silly personal agenda all about you so...by, by Bob, there is no point in reading our responding to your endless drivel.

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Mar 20, 2020 14:48:01   #
Timmers Loc: San Antonio Texas.
 
Photomac wrote:
The definition of pornography is clear: language, media, or other stimuli designed to create sexual excitement.
We all know the ramifications of changing our brain, addiction, sexual violence, and domestic violence. All of us need to be mindful and respectful with our creations.


This is really scary!

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Mar 20, 2020 14:54:57   #
Timmers Loc: San Antonio Texas.
 
Photomac wrote:
I am new to the HOG and usually view its contents for areas of my interest and similar activity. I've not done any nude work and have viewed this site with the idea of studying different poses, facial expressions and the various amount of "exposures" from the very modest to the third shot above. I have to say the comments over the months are consistent, those offended and those with an honest critique of the work. So I've asked myself are the artists here really being honest with themselves as to motive??? I notice all males shooting =/-, why is that? I notice 99% women models, why is that? I notice the "studios" to very informal indoors or out, there is lots of "teasing" language used in intro's. So let's be really honest, if this were just about lines, contrasts, curves, and tone there would be no need to show any of the commonly agreed sexual/genital anatomy. Tastefully draped nudes, lighting and perspective would the keynote parameters.

Like many of you, I'm just an amateur, old retired guy enjoying the art of photography, looking at the different venues. Sure, I enjoy a little "tease" of nudity because its nudity and we men are by nature, voyeurs. Trying to define the boundaries of this realm is difficult at best. So it seems to me, lets be honest. Define the limits of exposure. No boobs, or no genitals, or no pubic hair, no sexually erotic poses, hands on genitals, or what ever, then abide by them. Someone will always be offended and they own that response by coming on the site under what ever rules are decided.
I am new to the HOG and usually view its contents ... (show quote)


To all my nay sayers, THIS is well crafted, and well written response to the conversation. Notice how one does not locate a soap box Photomac needs to stand on to get their ideas across? I would be delighted to respond to this person if they posed a question or specific issue, yet they feel no need for that, they simply state their ideas and feelings as to the work in general.

Thanks for taking the time to post regarding the conversations that are being presented.

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Mar 20, 2020 15:18:36   #
rmalarz Loc: Tempe, Arizona
 
You seem to have trouble grasping the finer points of reference. In my sentence, "Then, you post some diatribe that brought that thread right to the basement", 'the basement' was not meant as an architectural feature. It was meant to indicate a low point.

As for my statement regarding your need to rely on insults in defending your snapshot contributions, the rest of your reply is sufficient evidence of that.
--Bob
Timmers wrote:
This:
"However, more to the point, you seem to spend as much time defending your "artistic" posts than most. There has to be a reason for that. As pointed out more than once, your snapshots border on porn. This post is no different, a series of snapshots and rather mediocre at that. The few that you did post somewhat recently were complimented quite nicely. Then, you post some diatribe that brought that thread right to the basement. "

It's not a basement, it's my Cedar Closet, but instead of basement just call it "underground' like so many others. But that would only encourage me, Underground Man, aka Fyodor Mikhailovich Dostoevsky.

There not "artistic", they are artistic, I got the credentials to confirm that position. Your assertion of 'snapshot', well that is cover as well, and dear Bob, your a boob speaking out of the side of your mindless mouth, these are not the derogatory termed snap shot, but why bother, you just sling your silly personal agenda all about you so...by, by Bob, there is no point in reading our responding to your endless drivel.
This: br "However, more to the point, you see... (show quote)

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Mar 20, 2020 15:22:00   #
rmalarz Loc: Tempe, Arizona
 
The only reason you consider this reply well crafted and well written is that it wasn't critical of your posts.
--Bob
Timmers wrote:
To all my nay sayers, THIS is well crafted, and well written response to the conversation. Notice how one does not locate a soap box Photomac needs to stand on to get their ideas across? I would be delighted to respond to this person if they posed a question or specific issue, yet they feel no need for that, they simply state their ideas and feelings as to the work in general.

Thanks for taking the time to post regarding the conversations that are being presented.

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Mar 20, 2020 16:14:59   #
Timmers Loc: San Antonio Texas.
 
rmalarz wrote:
The only reason you consider this reply well crafted and well written is that it wasn't critical of your posts.
--Bob


And Mr. Bob, some several post ago you assured myself and the other viewers that you were done with posting your mindless drivel.

I must assure you were once again talking out your ass to see your glory posted.

So, with that, I will go ahead and add you to Rabid Eye, and The Frimp..."To me you are dead." Rest in peace dead man posting.

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Mar 20, 2020 17:58:44   #
papakatz45 Loc: South Florida-West Palm Beach
 
Gasman57 wrote:
I'm not a nude shooter, but the 3rd shot is all out pornography.



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Mar 20, 2020 18:00:00   #
papakatz45 Loc: South Florida-West Palm Beach
 
haze63 wrote:
I am not backing either side.
I only know you can make the choice to look OR not


Yes, but you must look to see if you don't want to look.

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Mar 20, 2020 18:36:58   #
DanielB Loc: San Diego, Ca
 
Gasman57 wrote:
I'm not a nude shooter, but the 3rd shot is all out pornography.


Agree!

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Mar 20, 2020 19:14:27   #
bbrowner Loc: Chapel Hill, NC
 
Let’s forget the subject. This is a photography site. And the quality of this man’s photographs is poor.

He claims to be a superior photographer... but the elements that make a fine photograph is clearly absent.

What is clearly present is much BS!

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Mar 20, 2020 19:52:15   #
nikonwaddy
 
bbrowner wrote:
Let’s forget the subject. This is a photography site. And the quality of this man’s photographs is poor.

He claims to be a superior photographer... but the elements that make a fine photograph is clearly absent.

What is clearly present is much BS!


Of course in your opinion only...and also of course opinions are like AH's, every body has one.....;~)

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