Timmers Loc: San Antonio Texas.

There is a rumor that darling Missy will return to Texas from Main. Sounds great to me!

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Ollieboy

I'm not a nude shooter, but the 3rd shot is all out pornography.

jaymatt Loc: Alexandria, Indiana

HOHIMER

Sad case. It seems the OP is incapable of distinguishing the difference between art and porn.

Timmers Loc: San Antonio Texas.

That might be a reasonable but conservative observation some years back, but in case you did not notice the date of 2020 you perhaps may want to get with the times. This is what we moderns call 'erotic'. Also to assist you in a more meaningful understanding of 'porn' or 'pornography', that is a commercial enterprise, and I don't traffic in the mass sale nor distribution of that commercial activity. That would be insulting to The Hog.

By the by, your 'handle' of Gasman, sadly it has already been taken may years ago in Gunter Gras book The Tin Drum, it is a reference to Hitler being The Gasman who murdered so many in the concentration camps of WW II. You may want to re-think you 'name'.

Timmers Loc: San Antonio Texas.

Sorry HOHIMER, that is your cross to bear, not mine.

Timmers Loc: San Antonio Texas.

It is interesting that the same mindless comments come from the same myopic unimaginable limited viewers of the work. Two, three, even six such comments in the sea of thousands of views. Seems these are the minority of opinions.

haze63 Loc: Tiffin Ohio

I am not backing either side.
I only know you can make the choice to look OR not

JohnFrim Loc: Somewhere in the Great White North.

I don't think you can do a fair analysis of responses. You have never accepted anything negative from anyone, and you along with a few "porn-loving" friends have strongly pushed the notion that "if you can't say something nice, then don't say anything and move along." From the paucity of comments in relation to the number of view, I would conclude that very few hoggers were impressed with these images. In fact, I would conclude that the majority of viewers just did not say that they do not like them.

In order to have a better statistic of likes vs dislikes you have to invite everyone to comment.

So let me help with your analysis by saying there is nothing great, or even erotic, about any of the images. And the last one is nothing but trash.

JohnFrim Loc: Somewhere in the Great White North.

I disagree somewhat. Once you have looked you cannot unlook. The only "view or not" choice is to ignore a poster completely, and the only way to do that is to look at their work a few times before deciding whether or not to continue viewing that photographers offerings. The only real choice you have after looking is to comment or not.

Not all of Tim's images are porn or trash. He has a style and approach that push the boundaries of nude photography (he calls it art) beyond what people might be expecting, and every now and then he hits a home run with me.

But given that Tim ignores people who provide a few negative comments, there is little merit in me even offering positive feedback when warranted. So my response to most of Tim's postings is to view them, but not comment either way.

Ollieboy

First of all I was a GAS MAN. That's what I did for 30 years. How you make the connection is asinine. Your poor attempt to justify your "Art" is total BULLSHIT. If you don't realize what you posted is pornography, you're dumber than I thought.

nikonwaddy

Nope.....It's only porn to you if you only see it that way.

neillaubenthal

Porn is in the eye of the beholder. To some, boobs are ok but genitals not. Others, genitals ok unless they are deliberately being spread or the cropping is only genitals. Others...as long as there is no penetration or capture of the happy ending it is fine.

Art has often to be on the eyes of the beholder...and if Timmer’s art includes lady bits it’s not mine to judge.

My advice is to get over it...some of his shots are fine, others a little less fine, and others I wonder what the hell he was thinking. But that’s art...the ones I don’t like I just ignore.

However...what is BS...I will skip repeating the word...is the incessant Timmer-hate. If you don’t like it...just don’t look...unless you own the forum or he is in violation of the ToS...you don’t have any more right to badmouth it than the guy in the other thread about No Trespassing signs.

Take a deep, calming breath, wash your hands, and get over it already is my suggestion.

Photomac Loc: The Dalles, Or

I am new to the HOG and usually view its contents for areas of my interest and similar activity. I've not done any nude work and have viewed this site with the idea of studying different poses, facial expressions and the various amount of "exposures" from the very modest to the third shot above. I have to say the comments over the months are consistent, those offended and those with an honest critique of the work. So I've asked myself are the artists here really being honest with themselves as to motive??? I notice all males shooting =/-, why is that? I notice 99% women models, why is that? I notice the "studios" to very informal indoors or out, there is lots of "teasing" language used in intro's. So let's be really honest, if this were just about lines, contrasts, curves, and tone there would be no need to show any of the commonly agreed sexual/genital anatomy. Tastefully draped nudes, lighting and perspective would the keynote parameters.

Like many of you, I'm just an amateur, old retired guy enjoying the art of photography, looking at the different venues. Sure, I enjoy a little "tease" of nudity because its nudity and we men are by nature, voyeurs. Trying to define the boundaries of this realm is difficult at best. So it seems to me, lets be honest. Define the limits of exposure. No boobs, or no genitals, or no pubic hair, no sexually erotic poses, hands on genitals, or what ever, then abide by them. Someone will always be offended and they own that response by coming on the site under what ever rules are decided.

Photomac Loc: The Dalles, Or

The definition of pornography is clear: language, media, or other stimuli designed to create sexual excitement.
We all know the ramifications of changing our brain, addiction, sexual violence, and domestic violence. All of us need to be mindful and respectful with our creations.