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Mar 10, 2020 19:40:50   #
alexol
 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dcJDpV-igjs&feature=youtu.be&fbclid=IwAR3_2c-qI5TJy70X_wQql1r2aMcHfGgvGDdUo68XJPFs0laAhUYSBO8mOY8

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Mar 10, 2020 21:47:02   #
mas24 Loc: Southern CA
 
The Spanish Flu Pandemic of 1918 killed 675,000 Americans alone. Not including the rest of the world. The H1N1 Flu of 2009, killed 284;000 people. We also had SARS and Ebola. Ebola was primarily an African Continent problem. Let's just hope that the Coronavirus does not become a 1918 Spanish Flu Pandemic. Or the 2009 H1N1 Flu. The 18 elderly that died in a rest home in America was shocking. I believe this Coronavirus will pass, just as the previous respiratory diseases became. And, after this passes. The WHO and the CDC, should be better prepared, to cope with the next global respiratory diseases, that become global. Whenever it comes?. Students from the USA, studying in Italy, have been recalled back home immediately. A first time adventure that soon ended for them. A store manager, told me yesterday, that her trip to Venice, Italy has to be postponed. No refunds, but you have one year to reschedule the trip. Better later, than never. Best defense is washing your hands regularly. And, don't touch your mouth and nose.

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Mar 10, 2020 23:59:53   #
repleo Loc: Boston
 
mas24 wrote:
The Spanish Flu Pandemic of 1918 killed 675,000 Americans alone. Not including the rest of the world. The H1N1 Flu of 2009, killed 284;000 people. We also had SARS and Ebola. Ebola was primarily an African Continent problem. Let's just hope that the Coronavirus does not become a 1918 Spanish Flu Pandemic. Or the 2009 H1N1 Flu. The 18 elderly that died in a rest home in America was shocking. I believe this Coronavirus will pass, just as the previous respiratory diseases became. And, after this passes. The WHO and the CDC, should be better prepared, to cope with the next global respiratory diseases, that become global. Whenever it comes?. Students from the USA, studying in Italy, have been recalled back home immediately. A first time adventure that soon ended for them. A store manager, told me yesterday, that her trip to Venice, Italy has to be postponed. No refunds, but you have one year to reschedule the trip. Better later, than never. Best defense is washing your hands regularly. And, don't touch your mouth and nose.
The Spanish Flu Pandemic of 1918 killed 675,000 Am... (show quote)


Not to minimize the scourge of COVID-19, but to put it in some perspective, an estimated 16,000 Americans have died and 280,000 have been hospitalized through mid Feb 2020 due to the 'regular' flu and not a word about them. Approximately 36,000 people loose their lives each year due to motor vehicle accidents.

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Mar 11, 2020 00:38:26   #
alexol
 
Hmmm.

I think you'll find the link below both interesting and alarming.

Covid-19 hasn't even got it's wheels off the ground yet here in the US and the infection rate - which is no doubt far under-reported which will improve the percentages when real numbers are available - shows a mortality rate of around 3%.

At that level assuming a mere, incredibly conservative, 5% of the population gets sick, that results in 465,000 deaths.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=212&v=Kas0tIxDvrg&feature=emb_logo

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Mar 11, 2020 06:08:20   #
sb Loc: Florida's East Coast
 
repleo wrote:
Not to minimize the scourge of COVID-19, but to put it in some perspective, an estimated 16,000 Americans have died and 280,000 have been hospitalized through mid Feb 2020 due to the 'regular' flu and not a word about them. Approximately 36,000 people loose their lives each year due to motor vehicle accidents.


Lots of reminders - an average 30,000 deaths per year from the "regular" flu. That may drop if we continue worrying about COVID-19.

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Mar 11, 2020 07:54:59   #
traderjohn Loc: New York City
 
mas24 wrote:
The Spanish Flu Pandemic of 1918 killed 675,000 Americans alone. Not including the rest of the world. The H1N1 Flu of 2009, killed 284;000 people. We also had SARS and Ebola. Ebola was primarily an African Continent problem. Let's just hope that the Coronavirus does not become a 1918 Spanish Flu Pandemic. Or the 2009 H1N1 Flu. The 18 elderly that died in a rest home in America was shocking. I believe this Coronavirus will pass, just as the previous respiratory diseases became. And, after this passes. The WHO and the CDC, should be better prepared, to cope with the next global respiratory diseases, that become global. Whenever it comes?. Students from the USA, studying in Italy, have been recalled back home immediately. A first time adventure that soon ended for them. A store manager, told me yesterday, that her trip to Venice, Italy has to be postponed. No refunds, but you have one year to reschedule the trip. Better later, than never. Best defense is washing your hands regularly. And, don't touch your mouth and nose.
The Spanish Flu Pandemic of 1918 killed 675,000 Am... (show quote)


Some think this is just the tip of the iceberg. The loss of life is a terrible thing. Also, the loss of assets because of the virus and the effect on the world markets is also a concern. It will be years before a recovery will reach market level it was before the viris concerns.

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Mar 11, 2020 08:06:40   #
daldds Loc: NYC
 
These percentages show how few deaths are occurring so far, but the fact is, they go to 100% if a loved one dies. I am 85 years old, healthy, very nervous, and very watchful about crowds.
Today, Ron Johnson, whose committee ultimately is responsible for the federal response to the current crisis is heading the Republican Congress's pursuit into getting subpoenas of Hunter Biden.
We are far behind the curve now. He is one of the reasons.

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Mar 11, 2020 08:10:47   #
printer273
 
mas24 wrote:
The Spanish Flu Pandemic of 1918 killed 675,000 Americans alone. Not including the rest of the world. The H1N1 Flu of 2009, killed 284;000 people. We also had SARS and Ebola. Ebola was primarily an African Continent problem. Let's just hope that the Coronavirus does not become a 1918 Spanish Flu Pandemic. Or the 2009 H1N1 Flu. The 18 elderly that died in a rest home in America was shocking. I believe this Coronavirus will pass, just as the previous respiratory diseases became. And, after this passes. The WHO and the CDC, should be better prepared, to cope with the next global respiratory diseases, that become global. Whenever it comes?. Students from the USA, studying in Italy, have been recalled back home immediately. A first time adventure that soon ended for them. A store manager, told me yesterday, that her trip to Venice, Italy has to be postponed. No refunds, but you have one year to reschedule the trip. Better later, than never. Best defense is washing your hands regularly. And, don't touch your mouth and nose.
The Spanish Flu Pandemic of 1918 killed 675,000 Am... (show quote)


Does anybody else feel the news media is way out of control on this, yes we must be concerned but they are creating mass panic. You can’t trust what they report anymore as being totally true. Sad that they can sway people’s thinking by what and the way they report the news. Doomsday media is causing many problems in many areas in the US.

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Mar 11, 2020 08:15:32   #
traderjohn Loc: New York City
 
[quote=daldds]These percentages show how few deaths are occurring so far, but the fact is, they go to 100% if a loved one dies. I am 85 years old, healthy, very nervous, and very watchful about crowds.
Today, Ron Johnson, whose committee ultimately is responsible for the federal response to the current crisis is heading the Republican Congress's pursuit into getting subpoenas of Hunter Biden.

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Mar 11, 2020 08:25:04   #
traderjohn Loc: New York City
 
daldds wrote:
These percentages show how few deaths are occurring so far, but the fact is, they go to 100% if a loved one dies. I am 85 years old, healthy, very nervous, and very watchful about crowds.
Today, Ron Johnson, whose committee ultimately is responsible for the federal response to the current crisis is heading the Republican Congress's pursuit into getting subpoenas of Hunter Biden.
We are far behind the curve now. He is one of the reasons.


Who is "he"???
Biden or Johnson???
What would "one of the reasons be"??
If it were a Republican who was being subpoenaed, you would not be saying Jack$hit.
Everyone has a complaint about the Government's lack of response.
What would you do??

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Mar 11, 2020 08:33:18   #
andesbill
 
The reason that COVID19 is scaring those in health care, is that like SARS and the 1918 flu, we have no immunity, no vaccines, and tamiflu won’t work.
Some in CDC are predicting up to 100,000,000 cases with as much as a 2% fatality rate. That’s a lot of dead grandparents.
Keep in mind that when you read the number of cases in charts, that number is misleading. That is only the number of cases that have tested positive. The true number of cases is far, far larger.
This disease is very bad news.
Take care of yourselves.

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Mar 11, 2020 09:01:11   #
dpullum Loc: Tampa Florida
 
The Obama admin had set up a system to deal with potential epidemics and pandemics. Trump in his wisdom got rid of that system.

There will be future threats; Bacteria and Viruses forever mutating. Bacteria for example: when we use antibiotics only the strong bacteria survive and then go on to be incurable ... easily tolerating the antibiotics that killed their ancestors.

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Mar 11, 2020 09:29:23   #
daldds Loc: NYC
 
To Traderjohn:
Sorry I did not make myself more clear. As I said, I am 85 years old. I remember how the US rebuilt our "enemies' " countries after WWII, and how for years after led the world in health research, manufacturing, etc, etc. I also remember how DDE reacted to the death camps and ultimately became a Republican president for whom I voted. I remember working as a summer replacement in a factory earning a working man's salary, which I banked, while fathers were supporting families, sending kids to college, and saving, with that same salary.
So when I say the Republican Congress, that is simply stating a fact. I watch all the news programs, including Fox. Who I listen to are the experts, the virologists, the people with MDs, PhDs,and years and decades of experience. What I've learned is that we are NOT responding in a timely fashion. Trying to subpoena Hunter Biden or anyone else at this critical time should NOT be on any list of priorities.
I worry because we are not the country of my early years, which did not use politics as a vitriolic weapon, but as a method to improve the lives of the governed.
Stay healthy, and wash your hands!

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Mar 11, 2020 09:41:42   #
Bill 45
 
printer273 wrote:
Does anybody else feel the news media is way out of control on this, yes we must be concerned but they are creating mass panic. You can’t trust what they report anymore as being totally true. Sad that they can sway people’s thinking by what and the way they report the news. Doomsday media is causing many problems in many areas in the US.


Yes, you are on the money. What more danger: COVID-19 or fear and panic?

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Mar 11, 2020 09:52:55   #
Leefl
 
traderjohn wrote:
Who is "he"???
Biden or Johnson???
What would "one of the reasons be"??
If it were a Republican who was being subpoenaed, you would not be saying Jack$hit.
Everyone has a complaint about the Government's lack of response.
What would you do??


Your response is totally ridiculous and ignorant. This is not a Democrat or Republican disease. Ron Johnson has a job to do. He should be focusing on that and not a political red herring.

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