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Feb 15, 2020 21:07:39   #
Gene51 Loc: Yonkers, NY, now in LSD (LowerSlowerDelaware)
 
htbrown wrote:
My 12 year old computer is getting flaky and slow. I can't upgrade the RAM in it beyond the 8 MB it already has. It's time for a new one.

I'm trying to spec out what I should get. I know this topic comes up frequently, but I am unable to find much recent using the search function. No doubt this is due to user error. Can someone tell me what search will work?

I'm looking to get a Windoze desktop. For all you Mac users, I know you think Mac is superior, and you may be right. However, for reasons having to do with earning a living, I'm going with Windoze, so any suggestion for a Mac is a non-starter.

My thoughts at this point are:
i7 processor (is an i9 worth it?)
mid-range video card
32 GB ram (with space for more should I need it)
1 TB SSD (I have a 4TB HD I'll transplant form the old computer, which holds all my photos)
nic card, lotsa USB ports

Is there something else I should include that I'm not thinking of?

Again, if someone can point me to a search that will answer the question, I'd appreciate it.

Thanks, all.
My 12 year old computer is getting flaky and slow.... (show quote)


You'll find some solid recommendations, together with extensive benchmarking - to help you make some well-informed choices.

https://www.pugetsystems.com/

I've built dozens of Windows systems for various people - all are running just fine. This post was created on an 9 yr old PC that I updated slightly to include more ram and bigger hard drives in 2015. I have 8 TB storage, 32gb ram, i7 2600K running at 5 gHz. It's actually quite fast. Newer computers will have 6 or more cores with hyperthreading which will make Lightroom run a little faster, though clock speeds haven't changed much. SSD drives have come down in price, and many computers provide room for 2 or 3 m.2 NVMe PCIe SSD drives which runs software an boots Windows very fast. There is no need for a NIC card, most motherboards have them built in.

Without knowing what software you are planning to run it is hard to tell if you will get any benefit from an i9 cpu. If future-proofing is a goal, then maybe it's a good idea to plan around one. USB C Gen 2 or Thunderbolt 3 will ensure that I/O speeds on external drives will be close to what you get with internal SATA III drives.

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Feb 16, 2020 07:45:50   #
LenCreate
 
I replaced the hard drive in a computer about that age with an SSD last year and the old sluggish desktop now flies! Easy to do and you can buy a 1 TB SSD for around $100 or less. I used the free version of Macrium to copy the HD content to the SSD. Much cheaper than buying a new computer.

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Feb 16, 2020 07:52:21   #
John N Loc: HP14 3QF Stokenchurch, UK
 
I've just bought an I7 with 32gb so I'm hoping the spec. is O.K. I buy refurbished from Microsoft Authorised dealers for about 1/2 price.

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Feb 16, 2020 08:21:42   #
Longshadow Loc: Audubon, PA, United States
 
For most of us a regular computer would work well.

I mean, are we talking many minutes here or a second or three?

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Feb 16, 2020 09:21:57   #
bobmcculloch Loc: NYC, NY
 
htbrown wrote:
My 12 year old computer is getting flaky and slow. I can't upgrade the RAM in it beyond the 8 MB it already has. It's time for a new one.

I'm trying to spec out what I should get. I know this topic comes up frequently, but I am unable to find much recent using the search function. No doubt this is due to user error. Can someone tell me what search will work?

I'm looking to get a Windoze desktop. For all you Mac users, I know you think Mac is superior, and you may be right. However, for reasons having to do with earning a living, I'm going with Windoze, so any suggestion for a Mac is a non-starter.

My thoughts at this point are:
i7 processor (is an i9 worth it?)
mid-range video card
32 GB ram (with space for more should I need it)
1 TB SSD (I have a 4TB HD I'll transplant form the old computer, which holds all my photos)
nic card, lotsa USB ports

Is there something else I should include that I'm not thinking of?

Again, if someone can point me to a search that will answer the question, I'd appreciate it.

Thanks, all.
My 12 year old computer is getting flaky and slow.... (show quote)


I've had a number of desktops and laptops both at work and at home, last big computer I bought was an all-in-one, works out very well both for photo editing and general use, and it freed up a lot of real estate on my desk while giving me a bigger screen, last couple of desktops I never opened up to add or change anything, penny dropped, don't need to be able to do what I never do, screen is good for editing photos, now YMMV but its a thought, BTW I5 and I think 12gig ram does my editing fine.

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Feb 16, 2020 09:23:59   #
gvarner Loc: Central Oregon Coast
 
You should look seriously at tossing that old HD. A local computer shop should be able to give you a good cost estimate of what could meet your needs. Most of them don’t build them anymore, they just buy a Dell, for example, and add whatever else you want.

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Feb 16, 2020 09:29:20   #
jederick Loc: Northern Utah
 
robertjerl wrote:
Missed my afternoon nap or something.
Here is the link:
https://photographylife.com/the-ultimate-pc-build-for-photography-needs



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Feb 16, 2020 10:13:28   #
Toby
 
htbrown wrote:
My 12 year old computer is getting flaky and slow. I can't upgrade the RAM in it beyond the 8 MB it already has. It's time for a new one.

I'm trying to spec out what I should get. I know this topic comes up frequently, but I am unable to find much recent using the search function. No doubt this is due to user error. Can someone tell me what search will work?

I'm looking to get a Windoze desktop. For all you Mac users, I know you think Mac is superior, and you may be right. However, for reasons having to do with earning a living, I'm going with Windoze, so any suggestion for a Mac is a non-starter.

My thoughts at this point are:
i7 processor (is an i9 worth it?)
mid-range video card
32 GB ram (with space for more should I need it)
1 TB SSD (I have a 4TB HD I'll transplant form the old computer, which holds all my photos)
nic card, lotsa USB ports

Is there something else I should include that I'm not thinking of?

Again, if someone can point me to a search that will answer the question, I'd appreciate it.

Thanks, all.
My 12 year old computer is getting flaky and slow.... (show quote)


You might want to be sure it will support 2 or more monitors with at least one being a 4K

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Feb 16, 2020 10:32:12   #
TriX Loc: Raleigh, NC
 
Toby wrote:
You might want to be sure it will support 2 or more monitors with at least one being a 4K


Good point. Most modern video cards have two ports with different connectors and protocols, and most main boards have another, so you can run 3 if you like (which is what I use)

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Feb 16, 2020 11:24:02   #
Papa Joe Loc: Midwest U.S.
 
htbrown wrote:
My 12 year old computer is getting flaky and slow. I can't upgrade the RAM in it beyond the 8 MB it already has. It's time for a new one.

I'm trying to spec out what I should get. I know this topic comes up frequently, but I am unable to find much recent using the search function. No doubt this is due to user error. Can someone tell me what search will work?

I'm looking to get a Windoze desktop. For all you Mac users, I know you think Mac is superior, and you may be right. However, for reasons having to do with earning a living, I'm going with Windoze, so any suggestion for a Mac is a non-starter.

My thoughts at this point are:
i7 processor (is an i9 worth it?)
mid-range video card
32 GB ram (with space for more should I need it)
1 TB SSD (I have a 4TB HD I'll transplant form the old computer, which holds all my photos)
nic card, lotsa USB ports

Is there something else I should include that I'm not thinking of?

Again, if someone can point me to a search that will answer the question, I'd appreciate it.

Thanks, all.
My 12 year old computer is getting flaky and slow.... (show quote)



I have purchased my last three computers from TigerDirect (http://www.tigerdirect.com/) and have never had a problem. All three are 'refurbs' and the price was very reasonable. Never a problem with any of them. The Desktop unit I'm using now is going on its 5th year and still working like new. Their refurbs are guaranteed. I am obviously a very satisfied customer of TigerDirect.
http://www.tigerdirect.com/
Papa Joe

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Feb 16, 2020 13:16:26   #
htbrown Loc: San Francisco Bay Area
 
Gene51 wrote:
You'll find some solid recommendations, together with extensive benchmarking - to help you make some well-informed choices.

https://www.pugetsystems.com/

I've built dozens of Windows systems for various people - all are running just fine. This post was created on an 9 yr old PC that I updated slightly to include more ram and bigger hard drives in 2015. I have 8 TB storage, 32gb ram, i7 2600K running at 5 gHz. It's actually quite fast. Newer computers will have 6 or more cores with hyperthreading which will make Lightroom run a little faster, though clock speeds haven't changed much. SSD drives have come down in price, and many computers provide room for 2 or 3 m.2 NVMe PCIe SSD drives which runs software an boots Windows very fast. There is no need for a NIC card, most motherboards have them built in.

Without knowing what software you are planning to run it is hard to tell if you will get any benefit from an i9 cpu. If future-proofing is a goal, then maybe it's a good idea to plan around one. USB C Gen 2 or Thunderbolt 3 will ensure that I/O speeds on external drives will be close to what you get with internal SATA III drives.
You'll find some solid recommendations, together w... (show quote)


Thanks - good advice

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Feb 16, 2020 13:17:42   #
htbrown Loc: San Francisco Bay Area
 
LenCreate wrote:
I replaced the hard drive in a computer about that age with an SSD last year and the old sluggish desktop now flies! Easy to do and you can buy a 1 TB SSD for around $100 or less. I used the free version of Macrium to copy the HD content to the SSD. Much cheaper than buying a new computer.


This is not a bad idea, but I would still be limited to 8 GB RAM, since that's all this one will take. I might do this to kick the can down the road a bit.

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Feb 16, 2020 13:23:14   #
htbrown Loc: San Francisco Bay Area
 
gvarner wrote:
You should look seriously at tossing that old HD. A local computer shop should be able to give you a good cost estimate of what could meet your needs. Most of them don’t build them anymore, they just buy a Dell, for example, and add whatever else you want.


I just upgraded my second disk to 4TB last year when my photo collection got too large for the 1TB that preceded it. Your point is well taken, but I'm going to hang onto it for a bit.

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Feb 16, 2020 13:24:27   #
htbrown Loc: San Francisco Bay Area
 
Toby wrote:
You might want to be sure it will support 2 or more monitors with at least one being a 4K


God point. Thanks!

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Feb 16, 2020 13:26:24   #
htbrown Loc: San Francisco Bay Area
 
TriX wrote:
Good point. Most modern video cards have two ports with different connectors and protocols, and most main boards have another, so you can run 3 if you like (which is what I use)


I don't have room on my desk for a third monitor, but consider two essential.

I doubt I'll ever have a 4K monitor either, but I can remember buying a 100 MB disk and thinking I'd never want bigger too...

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