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Jan 3, 2020 13:22:28   #
JD750 Loc: SoCal
 
scubadoc wrote:
I’ve been a Mac user for >20 years, and my above comments are correct. If your original photo is on an external hard drive, it won’t immediately be seen in the Trash folder. If you restart the Mac, the deleted image will then appear in the Trash. This has been documented elsewhere, and I really don’t need to figure out what went wrong, as it appears this is a Mac OS issue.


I switched to Apple circa 2005 so only 15 years for me.

Ok now you have clarified that "if the photo is no an external hard drive" is when it does not go immediately into Trash for you. I will test this and report back.

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Jan 3, 2020 13:25:25   #
scubadoc Loc: Sarasota, FL
 
JD750 wrote:
I switched to Apple circa 2005 so only 15 years for me.

Ok now you have clarified that "if the photo is no an external hard drive" is when it does not go immediately into Trash for you. I will test this and report back.


Not to belabor a point, but that is exactly what I said in my above comments about deleted images. As I said last night, I tested it and that is the exact behavior on a Mac, verified by others as well.

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Jan 3, 2020 13:42:13   #
JD750 Loc: SoCal
 
scubadoc wrote:
Not to belabor a point, but that is exactly what I said in my above comments about deleted images. As I said last night, I tested it and that is the exact behavior on a Mac, verified by others as well.


I most definitely get different results. I just tested it. First I emptied the trash and verified it was empty. Then, using Lightroom Classic, subscription version, I deleted one photo from my external hard drive. It immediately appeared in the trash. I did not exit Lightroom, I did not shutdown or restart.

I'm running macOS Catalina, on a 2013 MacBookPro. The external drive is a Toshiba 1TB drive formatted with MacOS extended (journaled).

What macOS are you using? What hardware?

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Jan 3, 2020 13:47:34   #
scubadoc Loc: Sarasota, FL
 
JD750 wrote:
I most definitely get different results. I just tested it. First I emptied the trash and verified it was empty. Then, using Lightroom Classic, subscription version, I deleted one photo from my external hard drive. It immediately appeared in the trash. I did not exit Lightroom, I did not shutdown or restart.

I'm running macOS Catalina, on a 2013 MacBookPro. The external drive is a Toshiba 1TB drive formatted with MacOS extended (journaled).

What macOS are you using? What hardware?
I most definitely get different results. I just ... (show quote)


Interesting that we get different results. I'm using a 2012 iMac 27" Retina display, running the latest version of Lightroom Classic. OS is Catalina. External drive is a LaCie 3tb drive, formatted as is yours. I've seen others mention the behavior I've encountered with similar setups. There may be a permission issue someplace, but I'm not going to spend too much time delving further into this. At least I know that deleted images from disk are being deleted.

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Jan 3, 2020 13:49:13   #
JD750 Loc: SoCal
 
scubadoc wrote:
Interesting that we get different results. I'm using a 2012 iMac 27" Retina display, running the latest version of Lightroom Classic. OS is Catalina. I've seen others mention the behavior I've encountered with similar setups. There may be a permission issue someplace, but I'm not going to spend too much time delving further into this. At least I know that deleted images from disk are being deleted.


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A couple more thoughts. Within Lightroom, I marked the photo with an X then pressed CMD-DELETE to perform the deletion. The The window pops up asking which method to use, I chose "Delete From Disk".

Have you tried logging off then logging back on rather than shutting down?

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Jan 3, 2020 14:57:18   #
texaseve Loc: TX, NC and NH
 
scubadoc wrote:
Interesting that we get different results. I'm using a 2012 iMac 27" Retina display, running the latest version of Lightroom Classic. OS is Catalina. External drive is a LaCie 3tb drive, formatted as is yours. I've seen others mention the behavior I've encountered with similar setups. There may be a permission issue someplace, but I'm not going to spend too much time delving further into this. At least I know that deleted images from disk are being deleted.


I am getting same results! I have not put Catalina on my Mac. Still on Mojave, since I'm running older LR & PS Classic CC. If I delete a photo out of LR (from the disk), that is stored on the Toshiba external, it does NOT appear in my trash until I shut down and restart the laptop (2013 model.) So weird!

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Jan 3, 2020 15:04:48   #
texaseve Loc: TX, NC and NH
 
Very strange.... just opened LR back up to experiment with trashing a couple photos. This time they did go right in to the trashcan, as they should have. My computer has been buggy - having trouble restarting and such. I am about to get another laptop and newer LR & PS - hopefully, will have better fun with those, although dread moving catalogs and such!

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Jan 3, 2020 15:05:13   #
scubadoc Loc: Sarasota, FL
 
texaseve wrote:
I am getting same results! I have not put Catalina on my Mac. Still on Mojave, since I'm running older LR & PS Classic CC. If I delete a photo out of LR (from the disk), that is stored on the Toshiba external, it does NOT appear in my trash until I shut down and restart the laptop (2013 model.) So weird!


Glad I'm not the only misguided and misinformed one. There is a fix, I found. Create a empty folder on your internal hard drive, then move it to the trash. After that, try to delete a LR image from the disk, and from what I have been able to glean, the deleted image will appear in the trash as it should have been in the first place. Give it a try, let me know if it works for you.

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Jan 3, 2020 15:07:37   #
texaseve Loc: TX, NC and NH
 
scubadoc wrote:
Glad I'm not the only misguided and misinformed one. There is a fix, I found. Create a empty folder on your internal hard drive, then move it to the trash. After that, try to delete a LR image from the disk, and from what I have been able to glean, the deleted image will appear in the trash as it should have been in the first place. Give it a try, let me know if it works for you.


I think our laptops have a glitch! I know mine is misbehaving lately. Time to update! Thanks!

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Jan 3, 2020 17:34:20   #
JD750 Loc: SoCal
 
scubadoc wrote:
Glad I'm not the only misguided and misinformed one. There is a fix, I found. Create a empty folder on your internal hard drive, then move it to the trash. After that, try to delete a LR image from the disk, and from what I have been able to glean, the deleted image will appear in the trash as it should have been in the first place. Give it a try, let me know if it works for you.


That's very interesting!

FYI I think Texaseve is not interested in fixes, she want's a new computer.

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Jan 3, 2020 17:53:25   #
bleirer
 
Not sure what to make of this, https://helpx.adobe.com/lightroom-cc/using/restore-deleted-photos.html you can restore deleted photos within 60 days, even if not cloud synced, so where is limbo?

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Jan 3, 2020 18:22:37   #
texaseve Loc: TX, NC and NH
 
JD750 wrote:
That's very interesting!

FYI I think Texaseve is not interested in fixes, she want's a new computer.


Yes she does! I was on the phone a few time with Apple trying to fix the problems with mine and had no success. I believe it is just bogged down with stuff? It does not want to restart at all, just spins - not the ball, just the other thing that looks like a timer and won't shut off. I have to just shut down or hit the power button. Apple ran out of ideas, except to update the OS which I don't want to do, yet.
My other half wants to use it.... his is a true Asus dinosaur laptop, so I will get something better equipped to handle photo processing and my large bunch of softwares and what-have-you that I love playing with.

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