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Nov 25, 2019 09:09:56   #
johngault007 Loc: Florida Panhandle
 
Just a thought, if your computer can handle it. You can install VirtualBox (linked in someones post above) on your Windows install, and take your time playing with whichever linux distro you want. This will give you the ability to use all the software in your original post, plus give you time to see if you like linux. I'm not 100% sure if you need Win10 Pro to use VirtualBox or not, someone else may have that answer.

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Nov 25, 2019 09:14:32   #
JerryOSF Loc: Bristol, VA
 
Download linux (it is free) and copy it to a thumb drive or DVD. Boot from the DVD/thumb drive and you can experience linux without making any changes to your computer. If you like it and have sufficient room on your hard drive, you can install it next to your existing OS and, when rebooting select, select either your original OS or linux. I recommend linuxmint, although there are many different versions to choose from.

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Nov 25, 2019 09:23:59   #
BebuLamar
 
abc1234 wrote:
Interesting point. I compared the two on Microsoft.com and do not need the extras in my single-pc environment. I hate the rinky-dink amateur "conveniences" of home and wish they offered a more appropriate interface for intermediate or advanced users. Otherwise, I presume both versions are the same "under the hood". Let me know if I am wrong. Would you buy from Microsoft directly or a discounted version on Amazon?


I think both version are the same except that the home version would have some features disabled. It doesn't make the home version any smaller nor run faster.

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Nov 25, 2019 09:56:21   #
abc1234 Loc: Elk Grove Village, Illinois
 
johngault007 wrote:
Just a thought, if your computer can handle it. You can install VirtualBox (linked in someones post above) on your Windows install, and take your time playing with whichever linux distro you want. This will give you the ability to use all the software in your original post, plus give you time to see if you like linux. I'm not 100% sure if you need Win10 Pro to use VirtualBox or not, someone else may have that answer.


I was thinking of Linux as a work around to buying Windows but upon further thought, decided to keep things simple and predictable. I have fifty years experience with computers and at this point, I would rather use than program or service computers.

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Nov 25, 2019 09:58:22   #
abc1234 Loc: Elk Grove Village, Illinois
 
JerryOSF wrote:
Download linux (it is free) and copy it to a thumb drive or DVD. Boot from the DVD/thumb drive and you can experience linux without making any changes to your computer. If you like it and have sufficient room on your hard drive, you can install it next to your existing OS and, when rebooting select, select either your original OS or linux. I recommend linuxmint, although there are many different versions to choose from.


I have two machines, each with plenty of horsepower under the hood. If I ever have a dull moment, I can certainly try it. But for now, I need to move ahead.

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Nov 25, 2019 10:00:48   #
tcthome Loc: NJ
 
Ruherek wrote:
I have a 4K monitor and my Adobe menues are very small.


If you do a search you here will probably find the solution to that. It has been mentioned a few times.

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Nov 25, 2019 10:02:56   #
johngault007 Loc: Florida Panhandle
 
abc1234 wrote:
I was thinking of Linux as a work around to buying Windows but upon further thought, decided to keep things simple and predictable. I have fifty years experience with computers and at this point, I would rather use than program or service computers.


So Mint and Ubuntu won't give you much trouble, if any at all. I was more concerned with your requirements for Adobe products. But I'm glad you got enough answers to make a decision. If you decide to switch over in the future, just let us know if you have any questions.

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Nov 25, 2019 10:24:55   #
BebuLamar
 
If you are willing to pay Adobe $120 a year or more (I am not sure because it could be higher) then why not just pay the $150 for a copy of Windows 10 Pro?
From what you posted so far it doesn't seem like you like Linux better than Windows but just tried to save some money.

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Nov 25, 2019 10:32:02   #
abc1234 Loc: Elk Grove Village, Illinois
 
BebuLamar wrote:
If you are willing to pay Adobe $120 a year or more (I am not sure because it could be higher) then why not just pay the $150 for a copy of Windows 10 Pro?
From what you posted so far it doesn't seem like you like Linux better than Windows but just tried to save some money.


I have the full Creative Suite so pay a lot more than $120 annually. I never used Linux but someone else recommended it over Windows. I have installed Windows on dozens of machines through the years so know it very well. It was about the recommendation and not the money.

As I posted earlier, I compared Home and Pro and know I do need the extra features. Thanks for commenting.

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Nov 25, 2019 12:38:37   #
mniblick
 
Visit distrowatch.com The site might be a bit overwhelming at first but once you select a distribution, you can drill down to see which software is included in the package. Most will have Gimp by default. Most do not have Darktable but a quick visit to darktable.org can help with that. I am currently using Mint and I recommend it to people who are switching from Windows. The user interface makes the transition easy. As somebody else mentioned, you might try a distribution that can run off of a USB drive before leaving Windows.

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Nov 25, 2019 15:18:09   #
dwmoar Loc: Oregon, Willamette Valley
 
mniblick wrote:
Visit distrowatch.com The site might be a bit overwhelming at first but once you select a distribution, you can drill down to see which software is included in the package. Most will have Gimp by default. Most do not have Darktable but a quick visit to darktable.org can help with that. I am currently using Mint and I recommend it to people who are switching from Windows. The user interface makes the transition easy. As somebody else mentioned, you might try a distribution that can run off of a USB drive before leaving Windows.
Visit distrowatch.com The site might be a bit ... (show quote)


PCLinuxOS has DarkTable and Raw Therapee also - it is a rolling distro and doesn't contain that systemD crap.

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Nov 25, 2019 16:01:12   #
johngault007 Loc: Florida Panhandle
 
The OP was asking about keeping his Adobe suite and migrating to linux. He's not interested (yet) in changing his workflow.

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Nov 25, 2019 17:36:16   #
cochese
 
johngault007 wrote:
Ubuntu and Mint are probably the most stable distributions for users that are not as computer savvy. Most printers and hardware drivers have some or full support, and have Live OS like mentioned above where you can try it before installing. Both have extensive repositories for additional software and have a fairly intuitive installation GUI if one is not comfortable in command line environments.

Keep in mind, that Linux does not support all the creature comforts that Microsoft and Apple have built into the user experience. Gaming and commercial programs are still not fully supported for top shelf software, but that is sort of the point for open source environments.

I would never try to sway anyone away from their comfort zone unless they fully intend to move from Windows or MacOS. I didn't choose Linux for photography, it's sort of been my choice in OS for over a decade, and it fits my other purposes just fine.

Dual-boot (partitioning) is always an option, but I've never had 100% success when mixing Linux with say, Windows 10. The boot loader for linux, which by default is GRUB, will load anything you point it to, but Windows doesn't play well in mixed environments and will eventually try to overwrite a system with it's own boot loader, forcing the user to spend time on keyboard fixing the issue, or keeping the GRUB bootloader on disk or USB drive for easy starts. Again, that has been my experience with it, mileage may vary for other users.


I do love DarkTable, and the more I learn, the easier it is to produce results I am looking for. It's very powerful, and underrated mostly because users don't give it a proper amount of time investment, which is fine. But, if someone is comfortable with Adobe, or another software company, I probably wouldn't try to convert anyone, it's just not worth the "my stuff is better than your stuff" discussions. All modern software is very capable.
Ubuntu and Mint are probably the most stable distr... (show quote)


I use Mint. Have for a long time now. It just works. Install add your apps (if they are not already there) and go. There is a learning curve but it is not too bad. Comparable to going from Windows to Mac or vice versa. It is just different. It is as polished as any OS and no you don't need to write code in a terminal to use it. Another bonus is it is far more secure than either of the two main stream OS's.

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Nov 25, 2019 18:22:15   #
radiojohn
 
I am using Linux Mint and am happy with it, and you can try running some Adobe apps under WINE, but it is not perfect. Simple editors such as Photofiltre run well.

A better choice is to install Linux Mint along side Windows and only boot to Windows when needed. That is an option in the Mint install program. When running Mint you can access the Windows files.

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Nov 25, 2019 20:27:09   #
RGG
 
The Mac OS is a real good user interface for Linux/Unix, and it accommodates Adobe software. Same idea as Windows being a good user interface for MS-DOS.

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