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Nov 18, 2019 00:21:14 #
Steve DeMott
Loc: St. Louis, Missouri (Oakville area)
Grabbed a body cap and drilled a large hole in it, covered it with tin foil and poked a .0245mm hole in the foil to make a digital pinhole camera.
Three shots handheld at 1/15 sec ISO 9,000. Panorama was Stitched together in photoshop.
Also built a 8x10 pinhole camera to create paper negatives. Still have a few light leaks to mend. I'll post a few when it's fixed. A couple of test exposures were about an hour long, Please don't move.
Three shots handheld at 1/15 sec ISO 9,000. Panorama was Stitched together in photoshop.
Also built a 8x10 pinhole camera to create paper negatives. Still have a few light leaks to mend. I'll post a few when it's fixed. A couple of test exposures were about an hour long, Please don't move.
Nov 18, 2019 08:17:33 #
Nov 19, 2019 08:24:07 #
Why bother with a pinhole camera? You can easily degrade any image. Sorry but I miss the point to this experiment.
Paper negatives. Another anachronism. We used them to make local adjustments that were too difficult to do when printing negatives. One of the great beauties of LR is how much better it is in making those local adjustments.
If you want to experiment, fine. However, do not pass it off as art.
Paper negatives. Another anachronism. We used them to make local adjustments that were too difficult to do when printing negatives. One of the great beauties of LR is how much better it is in making those local adjustments.
If you want to experiment, fine. However, do not pass it off as art.
Nov 19, 2019 08:35:01 #
abc1234 wrote:
Why bother with a pinhole camera? You can easily degrade any image. Sorry but I miss the point to this experiment.
Paper negatives. Another anachronism. We used them to make local adjustments that were too difficult to do when printing negatives. One of the great beauties of LR is how much better it is in making those local adjustments.
If you want to experiment, fine. However, do not pass it off as art.
Paper negatives. Another anachronism. We used them to make local adjustments that were too difficult to do when printing negatives. One of the great beauties of LR is how much better it is in making those local adjustments.
If you want to experiment, fine. However, do not pass it off as art.
That is precisely what it is, art. You are talking about craft. If you are content within your limits, fine. Best not to criticize, narrowly.
Nov 19, 2019 08:40:59 #
artBob wrote:
That is precisely what it is, art. You are talking about craft. If you are content within your limits, fine. Best not to criticize, narrowly.
Thank you for your response. I think we agree to disagree. Historically, great artists were usually great craftsmen too. Their craft was in service of their art.
Nov 19, 2019 09:01:50 #
abc1234 wrote:
Thank you for your response. I think we agree to disagree. Historically, great artists were usually great craftsmen too. Their craft was in service of their art.
I agree. They didn't stop at craftsmanship, though, as there were hundreds as Good at craft. They are great artists because of their full creativity. Today, we still see craft in service to art. I think that is what the OP is doing. A watercolor will be different from something produced with the latest technology.
Nov 19, 2019 09:29:53 #
Experimentation, creativity, innovation, learning, art, music, poetry. All a vital part of the human experience.
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Nov 19, 2019 09:35:20 #
Steve DeMott
Loc: St. Louis, Missouri (Oakville area)
abc1234 wrote:
Why bother with a pinhole camera? You can easily degrade any image. Sorry but I miss the point to this experiment.
Paper negatives. Another anachronism. We used them to make local adjustments that were too difficult to do when printing negatives. One of the great beauties of LR is how much better it is in making those local adjustments.
If you want to experiment, fine. However, do not pass it off as art.
Paper negatives. Another anachronism. We used them to make local adjustments that were too difficult to do when printing negatives. One of the great beauties of LR is how much better it is in making those local adjustments.
If you want to experiment, fine. However, do not pass it off as art.
Why Not? I feel that learning ALL aspects of photography can't be a bad thing.
I would like to know how you used paper negatives for making local adjustments printing negatives.
Is this art? Art is the expression of creative skills & Imagination. We have a very impressive art museum here and some of the displays that artist call art is bewildering. However, they used their creative skills & imagination to create a display that's in an "Art" Museum.
Thanks for stopping by and leaving a comment. Sorry you feel I wasted my time.
--Steve Maybe this was the wrong forum for this type of photography
Nov 19, 2019 09:55:16 #
artBob wrote:
I agree. They didn't stop at craftsmanship, though, as there were hundreds as Good at craft. They are great artists because of their full creativity. Today, we still see craft in service to art. I think that is what the OP is doing. A watercolor will be different from something produced with the latest technology.
Watercolor was once the latest technology and a trade secret.
Nov 19, 2019 10:11:49 #
Absolutely useless information in this discussion, proving that, unfortunately for good people, you are not to be seriously considered. Good bye.
Nov 19, 2019 10:13:59 #
steve DeMott wrote:
Why Not? I feel that learning ALL aspects of photo... (show quote)
Paper negatives. I wish I remembered the details so rather than get them wrong, I suggest Googling it.
Is this the right forum? I have a narrower mission for this forum than some moderators. (I am not sure if we have a moderator now.) I think this forum is to help people learn and use programs to improve photographs, to figure out why a program or feature is not working, how to accomplish a specific goal, large or small. In other words, the emphasis is on process.
In recent months, this forum has become more of a gallery for displaying heavily edited pictures with relatively few details or questions about method. I believe that other forums concerned with artistic matters over technical ones would be better.
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Nov 19, 2019 11:57:27 #
abc1234 wrote:
I'm not sure either; I tried to reach Linary the last time he posted to UHH (October 22), but he never opened the pm. I have a narrower mission for this forum than some moderators. I am not sure if we have a moderator now...
Have you contacted Admin? Maybe you can be added to the moderator list.
Nov 19, 2019 12:26:49 #
Linda From Maine wrote:
I'm not sure either; I tried to reach Linary the last time he posted to UHH (October 22), but he never opened the pm.
Have you contacted Admin? Maybe you can be added to the moderator list.
Have you contacted Admin? Maybe you can be added to the moderator list.
Long time no hear. Good to hear from you. No, I have not contacted Admin. Thank you for suggesting that I become a moderator. Who are the moderators now? I wonder how they view the mission of this forum and their roles as moderators.
Nov 19, 2019 12:38:37 #
Steve DeMott
Loc: St. Louis, Missouri (Oakville area)
My apologies for creating a ruckus here. It was not my intent that the conversations went astray. I thought that Alternative Photography, like creating a pano using 3 pinhole camera images in PS would be appropriate for this forum. OOOPs, My mistake.
I'll do better next time
--Steve
I'll do better next time
--Steve
Nov 19, 2019 12:39:12 #
abc1234 wrote:
First, sorry Steve for hijacking this thread Long time no hear. Good to hear from you. No, I have not contacted Admin. Thank you for suggesting that I become a moderator. Who are the moderators now? I wonder how they view the mission of this forum and their roles as moderators.
Bob, it is just Linary. In "all sections" you can see the user names of anyone with moderator controls for a volunteer-managed section. Some moderators apparently leave UHH without ever informing Admin, as happened with donolea and TheeGambler, who were listed as PP Forum moderators when I inquired about the position in January.
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