24 vs 42 how much does 18mp help when cropping
Sep 29, 2019 09:13:24 #
Is there a difference ... you bet.
Can the human eye see the difference ... mostly ... no.
Can the human eye see the difference ... mostly ... no.
Sep 29, 2019 09:28:32 #
Collhar wrote:
It's a poor workman that blames his tools.
A good workman uses the right tool not the best tool.
Sep 29, 2019 09:37:24 #
TomV
Loc: Annapolis, Maryland
Kmgw9v wrote:
For my purposes, I want the the ability to crop—-sometimes a lot. There are pictures in your picture.
Buy the camera with the most pixels.
Buy the camera with the most pixels.
I agree totally. I shoot mostly birds and you cannot always get closer. Water fowl have an uncanny ability to drift out when they see you come closer.
I upgraded from my cropped Sony a77ii to a FF Sony a99 and was impressed by the noise improvement. Both at 24 Mpx. When the a99ii at 42 Mpx came out I bought that. 24 -> 42 is a 75% increase. I was able to sell my 600mm prime (12 lbs !) and buy a 500mm (7 lbs) and still have more reach.
Sep 29, 2019 09:51:41 #
If anyone is thinking of cropping a Sony and "loosing" pixels - just use the Clear Image Zoom instead and not loose pixels.....
But, YES, more MP will give better crops AND better for CIZ - assuming a reasonable ISO ...or "good" light
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But, YES, more MP will give better crops AND better for CIZ - assuming a reasonable ISO ...or "good" light
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Sep 29, 2019 10:00:00 #
xt2
Loc: British Columbia, Canada
CA_CanonUser wrote:
It depends on how much you are cropping AND how large of a print you want. A guide is that when printing an 8 X 10 photo, the eye cannot see the difference between 10 mp and any larger number of pixels. Pixel counts in cameras are more of a marketing tool than a real factor when selecting a camera. Compose your photos well and you don't need the mega pixel cameras.
I agree... work towards getting "it right" in camera. I enjoy using a Sony, & the "Clear Zoom" function doesn't distort much, however, I prefer optical zoom & I leave the "Clear Zoom" function off. Perhaps routinely relying on obsessive heavy cropping is a bandaid solution that will not make a "snapper" a photographer.
Cheers!
Sep 29, 2019 10:16:32 #
Ergo, size matters when you know how to use it. That said, I’ve cropped images out of my G16, sometimes as much as 50% or more with (sometimes) okay results depending on what my use is.
Sep 29, 2019 10:21:34 #
Toment wrote:
I’m on the fence the between two cameras: a Sony A7iii and and A7Riii.
Is there a big difference in the image result when cropping? I.e., is it worthwhile to get more pixels, will the crops be that much different?
Thanks
Is there a big difference in the image result when cropping? I.e., is it worthwhile to get more pixels, will the crops be that much different?
Thanks
I shoot with both 50mp and 30mp full frames and the difference is HUGE!
Obviously the second image is a crop taken from the first, lots of pixels make a difference!
Sep 29, 2019 10:33:17 #
Photomac
Loc: The Dalles, Or
Having the right tools provides great flexibility. It is interesting to note there are all kinds of examples of a simple camera (box with a hole, and a sensor of sorts) recording a winning photo. The fact is thats not what we do 95% of the time. In the film days, it was all about the lens quality. There really aren't any bad lenses out there in the digital age, so what has become the cornerstone is the camera. Its a computer with almost unlimited potential of help us create really great images, given a modicum of subject, light and composition. The D850 is the best example of that. For wild life, sports etc. the pixel count gives great flexibility, not to mention all the tracking etc features. It has replaced my D500, D810 which now stay home except for back up. Why, because of all the features of the camera, not my lenses. Get the camera that offers the most.
Sep 29, 2019 10:36:30 #
mikegreenwald
Loc: Illinois
xt2 wrote:
I agree... work towards getting "it right" in camera. I enjoy using a Sony, & the "Clear Zoom" function doesn't distort much, however, I prefer optical zoom & I leave the "Clear Zoom" function off. Perhaps routinely relying on obsessive heavy cropping is a bandaid solution that will not make a "snapper" a photographer.
Cheers!
Cheers!
I don’t agree. Better tools make it far easier to accomplish excellence if only you take the time and effort to learn to use them properly. It’s true that a skilled expert can do a better job with a lesser camera than a tyro with a top camera and lens. It’s also true that given two experts with cameras and lenses of different qualities, (s)he with the better equipment will usually achieve a better result.
Sep 29, 2019 10:44:12 #
Photomac wrote:
Having the right tools provides great flexibility.... (show quote)
Lenses make a big difference also, the Cardinal was shot with a 300mm prime lens, I guarantee that even at 600mm neither the Sigma or Tamron big zooms would have reproduced the same quality.
Sep 29, 2019 10:55:39 #
Photomac
Loc: The Dalles, Or
Yes, lenses can make a difference, but there really aren't any "bad lenses" just better quality for a desired effect, and not all of the same brand and size are necessarily equal, pixel peeping aside. My Nikon 28/300 is a great walk around lens. Is it the same sharpness of my 20/400, no, but it does a great job for 90% of my general photography. I'll put my money in the camera, thank you.
Sep 29, 2019 11:13:14 #
Kmgw9v wrote:
For my purposes, I want the the ability to crop—-sometimes a lot. There are pictures in your picture.
Buy the camera with the most pixels.
Buy the camera with the most pixels.
Sep 29, 2019 11:35:29 #
Strodav
Loc: Houston, Tx
Depends on what you shoot. If you shoot wildlife, especially birds, you will be heavily cropping images. As others have said, more pixels helps a lot. Note: the pixel density of DX (aps-c) bodies is higher than full frame bodies, at least until the 60mp a7RIV comes out. The only downside to more pixels is the processing time. I switch off between a D500 21mp DX body and a D850 46mp FX body for birding and it takes a lot longer to download and pull images into LR with the D850. On the other hand, you can get exquisite detail in portraits, landscapes, ..., with the higher pixel count compared to lower pixel cameras. Another factor is higher density sensors are generally newer, which generally means better color depth, better SNR and better dynamic range.
Sep 29, 2019 12:19:00 #
Sep 29, 2019 12:27:37 #
CHG_CANON wrote:
More pixels help tons, assuming you have a sharp i... (show quote)
"More pixels help tons": Often said but never proven.
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