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Sep 24, 2019 05:38:35 #
Curmudgeon wrote:
I hope not I'm 76 and still learning.
Agreed! I’m 67 and will never stop learning!
Sep 24, 2019 06:15:18 #
quixdraw wrote:
Possibly, to some - just a difference in what one expects of a camera.
You expect a picture from a camera and you expect a picture from a cell phone. Both expectations are achieved.
Two years ago my daughter was married. There were 150 guests. The only DSLR's were the ones used by the photographer and her two assistants.
That generation will not waste their time talking about ISO, shutter settings or nitpicking a photo to death. They will not worry about what camera or lens or how many to take to go on vacation.
They will take pictures they will share them and they will be very good pictures and much appreciated. They and their audience will not sweat the small stuff they have already moved on.
Sep 24, 2019 06:16:14 #
I will never get to the point where a phone is my primary camera. I use my phone camera rarely - just to capture something I need (or think I need). Some people take great pictures with them, but not me. I require a real camera to take recent pictures. I think it depends more on the user than the camera.
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Sep 24, 2019 06:33:54 #
jerryc41 wrote:
I will never get to the point where a phone is my primary camera. I use my phone camera rarely - just to capture something I need (or think I need). Some people take great pictures with them, but not me. I require a real camera to take recent pictures. I think it depends more on the user than the camera.
We had a saying in the Marine Corp. Adapt, overcome and persevere.
I think it may be on what the user thinks rather than what is.
Sep 24, 2019 06:37:56 #
jerryc41 wrote:
I will never get to the point where a phone is my primary camera. I use my phone camera rarely - just to capture something I need (or think I need). Some people take great pictures with them, but not me. I require a real camera to take recent pictures. I think it depends more on the user than the camera.
Instead of differentiating between cell phone cameras and other 'real' cameras, just say cell phone camera and my other camera.
I understand that the images produced by a cell phone might not be up to par, as compared to a dedicated camera, but the cell phone camera is still a camera, justice comparing a Brownie camera to a Graflex camera. Both were cameras, one was a point and shoot box camera, and the other was also a box camera, but it had features then that we can only dream about today, such as the swing back film plane.
The thing is that they were both cameras, both capable of producing fine images, providing that the photographer knew what he was doing with his equipment.
Remember, it isn't the camera that produces the photograph, that is the job of the artist, the photographer. The camera is simply the photographer's easel, the device where the photographer paints his product.
Sep 24, 2019 06:59:16 #
Well, let me add that I can order a pizza with my cell but it's a no go with my D5. B^)
Sep 24, 2019 07:13:33 #
Gene51 wrote:
I couldn't agree more! br br Here is a little gal... (show quote)
I concur with most of Gene51 & kmgw9v regarding their comments. Also, the Getty and Flickr examples of cell phone camera pix are pretty good. I too will use my cell phone camera when I don't or can't take my DSLR(s) with me or when I need a tool (enlargement) or when I can't read a price on the bottom shelf in a store. When I have used my cell camera I find that the pix they produce do not lend themselves to much, if any post-processing before they "blow-up". The best thing about a cell camera is that 98% of the time it is with me to capture moments with friends, events, and family that would otherwise be lost. Please, I don't mean my comments to be "troll-ish", just my opinion. Thanks to all for keeping this conversation civil.
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Sep 24, 2019 07:34:37 #
Gene51 wrote:
I couldn't agree more! br br Here is a little gal... (show quote)
After viewing those gorgeous photos...drop the mike. Makes for a great argument FOR.
Sep 24, 2019 08:01:26 #
quixdraw wrote:
Possibly, to some - just a difference in what one expects of a camera.
Regardless of expectations, a camera is a camera. It may not be the best camera or even a good camera but it's still a camera none the less.
Sep 24, 2019 08:02:50 #
The majority of my photos are for just documenting family life and history, so cell phone quality is fine for that, yet I seldom use it. I still bring out my D750 for nearly everything. The other night, at my neighbor's birthday party, I didn't bring my D750, but was glad to have my Motorola shooting video of the moment the husband brought out the blazin' birthday cake for his 30 (ish) wife. I uploaded it (a first!) to her Facebook page, and she was delighted, as it was the only video she had of the event.
Sep 24, 2019 08:05:44 #
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jesmason wrote:
Sales of 'traditional' cameras of all kinds have s... (show quote)
They are great for ad hoc FAX-like documenting with apps that correct for distortion, cropping, and transmitting, e.g. TinyScan. I find them great for snapshots at unexpected moments. Serious art can be also be done within their limitations. (Not all photography requires Full Frame and L-glass to be of artistic value.) Some even have algorithms to simulate a narrow DOF, even though I realize few reading this would ever stoop to using electronics to improve their photos.
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Sep 24, 2019 08:09:31 #
Soul Dr. wrote:
Maybe to some people, not to me.
Please explain why a camera in a cell phone is not a real camera. It has a lens. It has an image sensor. It has the ability to record digital image. What else does it need to make it a camera. Does it need to be larger? Is that it, it's too small to be a real camera? Is a Cessna 150 too small to be a real airplane?!
Sep 24, 2019 08:14:56 #
BebuLamar wrote:
I have big problems using the camera in the phone. It's so difficult although the quality is good.
Then you must have a pretty crappy cell phone. I've always found them quite simple to use, way simpler than any of my dedicated cameras, which I prefer to use.
Sep 24, 2019 08:24:38 #
bsprague wrote:
Phone cameras connect. Think about the Lightroom mobile apps, Facebook and Instagram. Phone photography is different than DSLR or medium format, but is equally creative with a variety of different tools.
Agree
Sep 24, 2019 08:26:11 #
Soul Dr. wrote:
I never said anything about the quality of images produced by cell phones. I just said to me they are not real cameras. That's just my opinion. I have had plenty experiences with cell phones with cameras. I have had Blackberry, Apple, Samsung and others. And my experience with them is biased, I don't like them.
I like my cameras to have real tactile controls, not have to set everything by touching a screen.
I like my cameras to have real tactile controls, not have to set everything by touching a screen.
Just because you don't like cell phone cameras doesn't mean they are not real cameras. Your opinion is irrelevant. Your bias is irrelevant. You preference for tactile controls is irrelevant. A camera in a cell phone is a real camera, it's simply different and less complicated than your preference.
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