Phone Cameras
Sep 23, 2019 13:27:01 #
Sales of 'traditional' cameras of all kinds have sunk to amazingly low levels as phone cameras have rapidly taken over the market. Starting with the Huawei P30 Pro's Leica camera, phone cameras now can be adjusted manually for aperature, speed, ISO, EV, and include automatic settings as well. The Huawei P30 includes a 5X telephoto to wide angle capability. The newest cameras from Apple, Samsung and (I suppose) Google's Pixel all include these capabilities, are waterproof to some degree, and generally provide all the functions of a 35 mm digital.
My camera group is going to have a discussion of the topic but I would like to hear from you about when you might favor a phone camera over a traditional digital camera, assuming you carry both. What can a phone camera NOT do?
My camera group is going to have a discussion of the topic but I would like to hear from you about when you might favor a phone camera over a traditional digital camera, assuming you carry both. What can a phone camera NOT do?
Sep 23, 2019 13:40:29 #
jesmason wrote:
Sales of 'traditional' cameras of all kinds have s... (show quote)
Take a photo with the same sharpness, phone cameras also need a ton of noise removal software to remove noise generated by a sensor the size of a pencil eraser packed by small pixels crammed into it.
Sep 23, 2019 13:41:18 #
jesmason wrote:
Sales of 'traditional' cameras of all kinds have s... (show quote)
This has been asked so many times and discussed ad nauseum here. Over a REAL camera, no. For snap shots, yes I use my Samsung Galaxy Note8. The last several Samsungs even shoot RAW. But I think they are only 10-bit files so the raw adds little to a descent JPG from the SmartPhone. I've processed and compared.
Sep 23, 2019 13:44:18 #
Trolling? Don't care for them, won't carry one. A limited device for photography compared to a quality camera. If that were the only means for me to take photos, I'd abandon a much loved avocation of better than 60 years.
Sep 23, 2019 13:51:59 #
First I am not a professional, that being said:
1. I can take my cell camera places where I can't take my D7200. Like taking my wife to a fancy dinner.
2. When 'Murphy the Ghost Dog' wants to go walking in the middle of a rain storm. I can drop my cell camera in my pocket, it's 'water resistant', and even monsoon rains don't seem to bother it. It's surprising what you find in the desert during a rain storm.
3. When I want to be unobtrusive. When I whip out the big camera people start posing, intentionally or not.
4. Took the 7200 out yesterday. Can you believe two card slots--no cards. Got the shot, not as good as it should have been but with the cell camera I got it.
5. The best reason of all. I never go out without cell phone. I can't always say that about the 7200.
1. I can take my cell camera places where I can't take my D7200. Like taking my wife to a fancy dinner.
2. When 'Murphy the Ghost Dog' wants to go walking in the middle of a rain storm. I can drop my cell camera in my pocket, it's 'water resistant', and even monsoon rains don't seem to bother it. It's surprising what you find in the desert during a rain storm.
3. When I want to be unobtrusive. When I whip out the big camera people start posing, intentionally or not.
4. Took the 7200 out yesterday. Can you believe two card slots--no cards. Got the shot, not as good as it should have been but with the cell camera I got it.
5. The best reason of all. I never go out without cell phone. I can't always say that about the 7200.
Sep 23, 2019 13:57:56 #
quixdraw wrote:
Trolling? Don't care for them, won't carry one. A limited device for photography compared to a quality camera. If that were the only means for me to take photos, I'd abandon a much loved avocation of better than 60 years.
Sep 23, 2019 14:22:08 #
I have a smart phone, but rarely use it to take photos. Only if it is something I really want to capture on the spur of the moment, and I don't have one of my real cameras with me.
Will
Will
Sep 23, 2019 14:42:03 #
I consider my phone an integral part of my photo gear along with my 'shirt pocket' compact, my Sony RX 100, A6000 and A7Riii. I select which one to use based on lugability vs quality expectations. The capabilities of these phone cameras has expanded so much in a few short years that my next gear upgrade will be from my iPhone 6 to either the iPhone XR or 11.
However, although they are very versatile, I have to admit I don't like shooting with a phone because I find them awkward to handle.
However, although they are very versatile, I have to admit I don't like shooting with a phone because I find them awkward to handle.
Sep 23, 2019 14:49:45 #
Phone cameras connect. Think about the Lightroom mobile apps, Facebook and Instagram. Phone photography is different than DSLR or medium format, but is equally creative with a variety of different tools.
Sep 23, 2019 15:12:06 #
Sep 23, 2019 15:13:55 #
I'm glad I'm not the only fumble-fingers who finds phones hard to handle when using them as cameras.
Sep 23, 2019 16:37:54 #
Soul Dr. wrote:
I have a smart phone, but rarely use it to take photos. Only if it is something I really want to capture on the spur of the moment, and I don't have one of my real cameras with me.
Will
Will
A camera in a cell phone is a real camera.
Sep 23, 2019 16:43:42 #
rmorrison1116 wrote:
A camera in a cell phone is a real camera.
Possibly, to some - just a difference in what one expects of a camera.
Sep 23, 2019 16:48:58 #
jesmason wrote:
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The phone is easier to carry but the camera is easier to use.
Sep 23, 2019 17:31:15 #
jesmason wrote:
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Use what works for you and don't worry about the other guy's camera. Or gal, for that matter. Not everyone needs a 'real' camera to get the results they want and not everyone can get what they want out of a cellphone camera. The market will work it out. Things rarely work out as badly as it seems they will at the time. In the late sixties I and a whole lot of others mourned the end of the muscle car era, thanks to insurance regs, pollution rules, the gas crunch, foreign competition, etc. We swore things would never be the same, and they aren't. Cars today are light years better then what they used to be and the cameras of the future no doubt will be also.
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