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Sep 15, 2019 08:46:14   #
DaveO Loc: Northeast CT
 
dennis2146 wrote:


Well said Dave.

Fortunately we all have the ability to think what we want and to acquire as much gear as we think is necessary to enjoy our hobby. Some are collectors and some are photographers but what we purchase is still our business.

Dennis


Good to hear you!

BTW, my wife does not agree!

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Sep 15, 2019 08:50:56   #
BebuLamar
 
jerryc41 wrote:
Right! A professional might not spend time thinking about gear, but people who do photography for a hobby are allowed that luxury. We're doing it for fun, not for the most bang for the buck.


Thinking and buying the gear is part of the fun.

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Sep 15, 2019 09:10:50   #
dennis2146 Loc: Eastern Idaho
 
DaveO wrote:
Good to hear you!

BTW, my wife does not agree!


Mine doesn't agree either with regard to my spending money on cameras, firearms, knives and similar items. But then I remind her it is MY money to do with as I choose as long as the household items are taken care of.

I'll miss her.

Dennis

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Sep 15, 2019 09:12:06   #
dennis2146 Loc: Eastern Idaho
 
BebuLamar wrote:
Thinking and buying the gear is part of the fun.


Absolutely true. If we didn't buy new gear we would all still be using a box Brownie. Someone has to keep the economy going too.

Dennis

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Sep 15, 2019 09:12:18   #
BlueMorel Loc: Southwest Michigan
 
When I used to quilt, the motto was "She who dies with the most fabric wins." Now my motto is "She who lusts after the most and bestest camera equipment wins.".
Can't afford more fabric or camera upgrades, so I win either way.

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Sep 15, 2019 09:26:40   #
nikon123 Loc: Toronto, Canada
 
My contribution to this discussion.
1. Once you have understood how the camera works and have a good grasp of the multitude of guidelines, the quality of the camera and the lenses make a significant positive impact in the hands of the photographer. ‘Beginners’ walking around with a Nikon D850 makes no sense.
2. The main discussion topics are extremely case specific and often are not relevant to me but I respect that they are there for a reason - to problem solve.
3. We could use more discussion in for example the nature of the projects that individuals are creating. Case in point, I am working on a collection of the every-day ordinary subjects, yet captured creatively (line, lighting, shape, etc).
4. Above all - be kind to all on the forum. We are all here to learn.
Thank you

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Sep 15, 2019 09:42:33   #
pila
 
Linda From Maine wrote:
I agree with DaveO's sentiment re "beat to death," but for me it's more because this topic doesn't promote any learning or thoughtful commentary; it's just another "chit-chat" thread. Burkphoto recently wrote a similar topic here in which he linked a video to help aid wider discussion. Admin moved his from main forum to links/resources, which is where I expect yours will end up also because of the link you included.

Back in 2016 Sharpshooter did a series on composition. See several of those threads here - if you can get past the Naked Section topics on that page

Discussions on specifics of how to create impact (light, composition, depth of field, angle of view/perspective, how to draw someone into a scene and keep their attention) have been very rare in UHH's main discussion for quite some time, however. I wonder why? Is it because aside from gear specifics and tech talk, the majority who comment in main discussion are already where they want to be with their hobby? And those who are motivated to improve and learn are doing so in other sections of this site - and maybe connecting with a mentor via private message - or have discovered other resources, whether online or books or classroom?

Main discussion forum has become a dumping ground that includes sharing of Facebook photo-jokes, complaints about UPS, and much more that should have been posted to General Chit-Chat. For those seeking a different experience, I urge you to look through "all sections" at the bottom of this page. Examples:

In May and June of 2018, there was a 4-part collaborative effort in For Your Consideration section on the aspects of light. The last chapter, with links to earlier, is here.

The For Your Consideration section has also hosted topics on flower photography, black and white, still life and much more. But that section, like all volunteer-moderated sections, is invisible to new users. You must specifically subscribe and even then, if you are browsing via the emailed digest, you must be logged in to UHH to see postings.

There has often been excellent feedback/critique and discussion in several Landscape Forum topics since that section was created in December. PP Forum has a list of member-created tutorials here. The Commercial Photography section has a lighting tutorial here.

It is sad that most of the volunteer-moderated sections receive very little participation, but that may speak as much to the demographics of main discussion participants as it does to the lack of visibility of the other sections.
I agree with DaveO's sentiment re "beat to de... (show quote)


Linda, once again your remarks resonated with me. Thinking more about how to improve my skills and less about gear is a worthy goal. Cultivating my photographers eye, paying attention to film and cinemaphotagraohy, looking at vogue and the New York Times, watching you tube. And studying. Plus taking photos.
Thanks for the moral compass. Pila
Just had eye surgery. New lenses in the eyes should help.

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Sep 15, 2019 09:46:34   #
Bike guy Loc: Atlanta
 
Thanks Linda.
I will check out those links.

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Sep 15, 2019 10:29:56   #
JeffDavidson Loc: Originally Detroit Now Los Angeles
 
I like the manner in which "Linda From Maine" expresses herself. It is to the point and NOT vitriolic. Take heed.

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Sep 15, 2019 11:25:13   #
MDI Mainer
 
DaveO wrote:
. . . To beat this theme to death is tiresome. . .


When I was younger and teaching law, I often despaired of convincing my students that developing critical and creative thinking skills was more important than understanding the Rule Against Perpetuities or the holding in Shelley's Case.

And then I remembered the words (albeit somewhat pretentious) of the old dean who was my mentor: "My whole life has been a crusade against ignorance."

So I continue to flog away . . .

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Sep 15, 2019 11:26:47   #
CHG_CANON Loc: the Windy City
 
You are what your equipment says you are ...

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Sep 15, 2019 11:29:48   #
MDI Mainer
 
Bike guy wrote:
Thanks Linda.
I will check out those links.


I did. They are excellent and I book-marked them for further study.

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Sep 15, 2019 11:37:58   #
MDI Mainer
 
MrBumps2U wrote:
Taking things out of context can lead to trouble. Perhaps the rest of the quoted article puts this first bit in perspective. Could we have a link to the article so we can see for ourselves.


Sorry, I would have posted the link, but then the ever-vigilant Admin would have moved the whole thing to the dead-zone that is "Links and Resources."

Apparently if someone else posts it (as Gene51 did) as part of the discussion, the thread escapes that awful fate.

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Sep 15, 2019 12:19:24   #
rmalarz Loc: Tempe, Arizona
 
But, if I don't purchase the latest model camera with all of the new wifferdills on it, how am I supposed to produce improved photographs? I can't wait to empty my bank account on some new something so I can improve.
--Bob


MDI Mainer wrote:
Picture Correct (picturecorrect.com) recently posted an article entitled "10 Things Successful Photographers Don't Do."

The first bit of advice:

1. Waste time thinking about gear

This is one of the most important things a successful photographer avoids at all costs. Photography gear may be important for enhancing shots, however, it’s not as important as core photography when taking creative photos. In fact, creative shots often come out better when they are taken naturally, without extra gadgets.
Picture Correct (picturecorrect.com) recently post... (show quote)

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Sep 15, 2019 12:34:00   #
CHG_CANON Loc: the Windy City
 
If you can't afford to go full-frame and mirrorless, you can't afford to go from good to great.

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