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DOJ: 43% of ALL Offenders Were Non-Citizens Last Year
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May 17, 2019 17:22:00   #
lightcatcher Loc: Farmington, NM (4 corners)
 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=73SXomwOXT0

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May 17, 2019 18:00:55   #
soba1 Loc: Somewhere In So Ca
 

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May 17, 2019 19:26:29   #
Angmo
 
Deportation.

43% illegals. The remaining 57% were lefties.

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May 18, 2019 06:21:48   #
JamesCurran Loc: Trenton ,NJ
 
lightcatcher wrote:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=73SXomwOXT0


arrg... I was only able to stand less than two minutes of that dreck.

Basically, it's one right-wing nutjob reading to us an article by another right-wing nutjob (I guess most righties can't read for themselves), giving his (right-wing nutjob) interpretation of a government report.

Now, tracing through all that to the actual government report (https://www.ussc.gov/sites/default/files/pdf/research-and-publications/annual-reports-and-sourcebooks/2018/FY18-Annual-Report-and-Sourcebook.pdf ) we can turn to page 58 and we can find the chart he based this on:


CITIZENSHIP OF FEDERAL OFFENDERS BY TYPE OF CRIME
Fiscal Year 2018

Citizens Non-Citizens
TYPE OF CRIME TOTAL N % N %
TOTAL 68,903 39,458 57.3 29,445 42.7


So, that seems to settle it, right? Well, no. First of all, it's "non-citizens" rather than "illegal aliens" -- so it included legal green-card holders, so really has no bearing on the claim that the undocumented commit fewer crimes. Further, it's only *Federal* crimes. The vast majority of crimes committed are state crimes. It's actually kind of difficult to commit a federal crime. (if you kill someone, then escape leaving the state, the murder is a state crime, the crossing state lines afterward is a federal crime)

Now, if we look at "Type of crime", we see what's going on:

Immigration 23,868 2,033 8.5 21,835 91.5

So, most immigration crimes are commit by non-citizens. OK, got that.

but what about the other crimes:

Citizens Non-Citizens
TYPE OF CRIME TOTAL N % N %
Administration
of Justice 723 559 77.3 164 22.7
Antitrust 53 51 96.2 2 3.8
Arson 55 53 96.4 2 3.6
Assault 685 629 91.8 56 8.2
Bribery/Corruption 316 296 93.7 20 6.3
Burglary/Trespass 41 37 90.2 4 9.8
Child Pornography 1,416 1,386 97.9 30 2.1
Commercialized Vice 146 126 86.3 20 13.7

So, when we look at all other crimes, we see that citizens commit them about 10 to 20 times as much as non-citizens.

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May 18, 2019 06:25:49   #
Architect1776 Loc: In my mind
 
Angmo wrote:
Deportation.

43% illegals. The remaining 57% were lefties.



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May 18, 2019 06:31:43   #
Architect1776 Loc: In my mind
 
JamesCurran wrote:
arrg... I was only able to stand less than two minutes of that dreck.

Basically, it's one right-wing nutjob reading to us an article by another right-wing nutjob (I guess most righties can't read for themselves), giving his (right-wing nutjob) interpretation of a government report.

Now, tracing through all that to the actual government report (https://www.ussc.gov/sites/default/files/pdf/research-and-publications/annual-reports-and-sourcebooks/2018/FY18-Annual-Report-and-Sourcebook.pdf ) we can turn to page 58 and we can find the chart he based this on:

CITIZENSHIP OF FEDERAL OFFENDERS BY TYPE OF CRIME
Fiscal Year 2018

Citizens Non-Citizens
TYPE OF CRIME TOTAL N % N %
TOTAL 68,903 39,458 57.3 29,445 42.7

So, that seems to settle it, right? Well, no. First of all, it's "non-citizens" rather than "illegal aliens" -- so it included legal green-card holders, so really has no bearing on the claim that the undocumented commit fewer crimes. Further, it's only *Federal* crimes. The vast majority of crimes committed are state crimes. It's actually kind of difficult to commit a federal crime. (if you kill someone, then escape leaving the state, the murder is a state crime, the crossing state lines afterward is a federal crime)

Now, if we look at "Type of crime", we see what's going on:
Immigration 23,868 2,033 8.5 21,835 91.5

So, most immigration crimes are commit by non-citizens. OK, got that.

but what about the other crimes:
Citizens Non-Citizens
TYPE OF CRIME TOTAL N % N %
Administration
of Justice 723 559 77.3 164 22.7
Antitrust 53 51 96.2 2 3.8
Arson 55 53 96.4 2 3.6
Assault 685 629 91.8 56 8.2
Bribery/Corruption 316 296 93.7 20 6.3
Burglary/Trespass 41 37 90.2 4 9.8
Child Pornography 1,416 1,386 97.9 30 2.1
Commercialized Vice 146 126 86.3 20 13.7

So, when we look at all other crimes, we see that citizens commit them about 10 to 20 times as much as non-citizens.
arrg... I was only able to stand less than two min... (show quote)


Coming here illegally is a crime.
Then it goes downhill from there.
Non-Citizens today mostly have NO desire to become Americans but live here and bring their sh..t hole culture here see Minneapolis and the Somali enclave there.
Here is a good example of such a piece of crap here trying to destroy America.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2018/11/07/trump-demonized-somali-refugees-minnesota-one-them-just-won-seat-congress/?utm_term=.823bb04b6643

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May 18, 2019 07:07:23   #
gorgehiker Loc: Lexington, Ky
 
JamesCurran wrote:
arrg... I was only able to stand less than two minutes of that dreck.

Basically, it's one right-wing nutjob reading to us an article by another right-wing nutjob (I guess most righties can't read for themselves), giving his (right-wing nutjob) interpretation of a government report.

Now, tracing through all that to the actual government report (https://www.ussc.gov/sites/default/files/pdf/research-and-publications/annual-reports-and-sourcebooks/2018/FY18-Annual-Report-and-Sourcebook.pdf ) we can turn to page 58 and we can find the chart he based this on:


CITIZENSHIP OF FEDERAL OFFENDERS BY TYPE OF CRIME
Fiscal Year 2018

Citizens Non-Citizens
TYPE OF CRIME TOTAL N % N %
TOTAL 68,903 39,458 57.3 29,445 42.7


So, that seems to settle it, right? Well, no. First of all, it's "non-citizens" rather than "illegal aliens" -- so it included legal green-card holders, so really has no bearing on the claim that the undocumented commit fewer crimes. Further, it's only *Federal* crimes. The vast majority of crimes committed are state crimes. It's actually kind of difficult to commit a federal crime. (if you kill someone, then escape leaving the state, the murder is a state crime, the crossing state lines afterward is a federal crime)

Now, if we look at "Type of crime", we see what's going on:

Immigration 23,868 2,033 8.5 21,835 91.5

So, most immigration crimes are commit by non-citizens. OK, got that.

but what about the other crimes:

Citizens Non-Citizens
TYPE OF CRIME TOTAL N % N %
Administration
of Justice 723 559 77.3 164 22.7
Antitrust 53 51 96.2 2 3.8
Arson 55 53 96.4 2 3.6
Assault 685 629 91.8 56 8.2
Bribery/Corruption 316 296 93.7 20 6.3
Burglary/Trespass 41 37 90.2 4 9.8
Child Pornography 1,416 1,386 97.9 30 2.1
Commercialized Vice 146 126 86.3 20 13.7

So, when we look at all other crimes, we see that citizens commit them about 10 to 20 times as much as non-citizens.
arrg... I was only able to stand less than two min... (show quote)


Even if the Trumpites could understand your in depth analysis, they wouldn't accept it because they only believe information that supports their extremist ideology.

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May 18, 2019 07:09:57   #
gorgehiker Loc: Lexington, Ky
 
Don't forget that Trump's campaign manager and his personal attorney are among the citizens committing crimes.

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May 18, 2019 08:13:01   #
sueyeisert Loc: New Jersey
 
People come here to make a better life for themselves. Unless your an American Indian our parents grandparents or great grandparents were immigrants. I don’t think they filled out immigration forms before coming here. My family has made this country better. My relatives are professors at major universities,teachers,lawyers, research scientists, businessmen etc. Immigrants and their children enrich this country. My friend who has a green card, her children who are citizens one is getting a PhD in engineering and the other is becoming a lawyer.

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May 18, 2019 08:13:14   #
Architect1776 Loc: In my mind
 
gorgehiker wrote:
Don't forget that Trump's campaign manager and his personal attorney are among the citizens committing crimes.


What crimes?
This has nothing to do with immigrants committing crimes.
PS Looks like Hillary and crew are going down.

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May 18, 2019 08:40:21   #
Frank T Loc: New York, NY
 
The video is very misleading as was pointed out by James.
If you need to lie to make your case, you have no case. Or possibly, you're the President.
Whichever.

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May 18, 2019 08:42:09   #
WNC Ralf Loc: Candler NC, in the mountains!
 
How easily duped you trumpeters are, so sorry for your ignorance.

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May 18, 2019 08:59:43   #
boberic Loc: Quiet Corner, Connecticut. Ex long Islander
 
Regardless of whstever the percentage is , it should be ZERO> As there should be No illegal immigrants

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May 18, 2019 09:06:27   #
Architect1776 Loc: In my mind
 
boberic wrote:
Regardless of whstever the percentage is , it should be ZERO> As there should be No illegal immigrants



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May 18, 2019 09:08:22   #
Architect1776 Loc: In my mind
 
WNC Ralf wrote:
How easily duped you trumpeters are, so sorry for your ignorance.


Perhaps we need to import all these illegals into your whitesville neighborhood.
Then watch your tune change.
The President offered to do this in CA and other lib areas and they freaked out at having illegals in their neighborhoods.

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