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May 10, 2019 14:47:07   #
Linary Loc: UK
 
I have received an email purporting to be from Adobe suggesting that I may be using LR Classic v 6.12, and that I should not be doing so.


"LIGHTROOM CLASSIC:6.12
Please be aware that should you continue to use the discontinued version(s), you may be at risk of potential claims of infringement by third parties."

The full text of the email can be viewed on the following link:

http://memea-page.mail.adobe.com/nl/jsp/m.jsp?c=%40%2FHJpqJhizvrwGTuY01IFziOSw9sUM6NxpP2cX4BEwO8%3D

This does not apply to me because I am running LR Classic v 8.2, but I thought others might be and you may wish to know about this. I found it interesting the email singled this stand-a-lone version and ignored the earlier and later standalone versions.

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May 10, 2019 14:56:15   #
CHG_CANON Loc: the Windy City
 
The letter seems detailed but is rather vague in the purpose and meaning. I read Adobe's letter meaning to apply to subscribers who haven't performed the updates to their subscription software to remain current. Although the standalone software ended at version 6, the standalone license / software was never called "Lightroom Classic" as a product. Rather, it took on "classic" by the users due to confusion generated by Adobe's rollout.

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May 10, 2019 15:08:23   #
Linary Loc: UK
 
CHG_CANON wrote:
The letter seems detailed but is rather vague in the purpose and meaning. I read Adobe's letter meaning to apply to subscribers who haven't performed the updates to their subscription software to remain current. Although the standalone software ended at version 6, the standalone license / software was never called "Lightroom Classic" as a product. Rather, it took on "classic" by the users due to confusion generated by Adobe's rollout.


The thing that is really confusing me is that I stopped using v 5.7 and immediately took the subscription route. I think that was called LR CC 2015. LR Classic did not arrive until much later on the scene.

What is/was so special about v 6.12?

The more I look at this letter, the more I wonder if it actually came from Adobe.

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May 10, 2019 15:16:22   #
rcarol
 
Linary wrote:
The thing that is really confusing me is that I stopped using v 5.7 and immediately took the subscription route. I think that was called LR CC 2015. LR Classic did not arrive until much later on the scene.

What is/was so special about v 6.12?

The more I look at this letter, the more I wonder if it actually came from Adobe.


Ask them.

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May 10, 2019 15:21:00   #
CHG_CANON Loc: the Windy City
 
Linary wrote:
The thing that is really confusing me is that I stopped using v 5.7 and immediately took the subscription route. I think that was called LR CC 2015. LR Classic did not arrive until much later on the scene.

What is/was so special about v 6.12?

The more I look at this letter, the more I wonder if it actually came from Adobe.


The embedded links go to the real Adobe site. The final standalone version made it to v6.14, again with no "classic" naming in the software. Someone in product management probably requested a letter be sent to customers and the IT team did the best they could with bad data in their customer records .... If this idea of infringement was an external pressure on Adobe, they may have decided to error on a broader sweep of potential candidates than a smaller and more refined and more time consuming analysis ...

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May 10, 2019 16:13:36   #
JD750 Loc: SoCal
 
It is an oddly worded message. It sounds like it is a warning against using an unlicensed copy of the software but then it mentions 3rd parties? The web address, does not look like legit adobe address and it opens to NULL when clicked.

The odd wording and the web address make me suspicious that it is a phishing scam.

You can use this site to report it if you wish.
https://helpx.adobe.com/security/alertus.html

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May 10, 2019 21:19:12   #
rgrenaderphoto Loc: Hollywood, CA
 
Linary wrote:
I have received an email purporting to be from Adobe suggesting that I may be using LR Classic v 6.12, and that I should not be doing so.


"LIGHTROOM CLASSIC:6.12
Please be aware that should you continue to use the discontinued version(s), you may be at risk of potential claims of infringement by third parties."

The full text of the email can be viewed on the following link:

http://memea-page.mail.adobe.com/nl/jsp/m.jsp?c=%40%2FHJpqJhizvrwGTuY01IFziOSw9sUM6NxpP2cX4BEwO8%3D

This does not apply to me because I am running LR Classic v 8.2, but I thought others might be and you may wish to know about this. I found it interesting the email singled this stand-a-lone version and ignored the earlier and later standalone versions.
I have received an email purporting to be from Ado... (show quote)


I think that they have sold older versions to somebody else:

Please be aware that should you use the discontinued version(s), you may be at risk of potential claims of infringement by third parties.

Why else would the above statement be included?

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May 11, 2019 06:45:29   #
tankdonovan Loc: Tennessee
 
Linary wrote:
The thing that is really confusing me is that I stopped using v 5.7 and immediately took the subscription route. I think that was called LR CC 2015. LR Classic did not arrive until much later on the scene.

What is/was so special about v 6.12?

The more I look at this letter, the more I wonder if it actually came from Adobe.


If not from Adobe then what is the purpose of the email? What would the scam be?

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May 11, 2019 08:53:49   #
dpfoto Loc: Cape Coral, FL
 
I have the PS/LR CC ($10/month) version, but still prefer to use LR 5.7.1, and CS5 & CS6 versions of PS most of the time. I haven't gotten that email yet, and will probably just mark it as junk mail if I do.

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May 11, 2019 11:05:55   #
Linary Loc: UK
 
tankdonovan wrote:
If not from Adobe then what is the purpose of the email? What would the scam be?


I have no idea, but I still wonder why v6.12 was singled out. I have never used, owned or licensed LR 6.12, i went from 5.7 to CC 2015.

I have emailed Adobe and asked the question - only an automated acknowledgement as yet.

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May 11, 2019 11:07:42   #
Linary Loc: UK
 
JD750 wrote:
It is an oddly worded message. It sounds like it is a warning against using an unlicensed copy of the software but then it mentions 3rd parties? The web address, does not look like legit adobe address and it opens to NULL when clicked.

The odd wording and the web address make me suspicious that it is a phishing scam.

You can use this site to report it if you wish.
https://helpx.adobe.com/security/alertus.html



On clicking the link I also got a null, but on the 2nd click the letter with nothing else displayed is shown.
Reported but no acknowledgement as yet.

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May 11, 2019 11:34:02   #
cjc2 Loc: Hellertown PA
 
AFAIK, the Version 6 software was also available for sale. Although I have had the subscription for several years, I did buy one stand-alone version 6 for use on a third machine. I still have that and still use it on occasion. I have not received anything from Adobe on that version in quite some time, but I don't use that computer much as it's a PC and I use Apple for 99.9% of my PP. Best of luck.

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May 11, 2019 11:55:57   #
Linary Loc: UK
 
I wonder if this has got something to do with the letter:

Infotech are offering free downloads of "Lightroom CC 6.12" - that is their name for it, not mine. They are also offering free downloads of "Lightroom CC v 6.10.1"

The link is https://www.onlyinfotech.com/2018/10/19/adobe-photoshop-lightroom-cc-6-12-full-software-free-download-viral-tech/

I have not clicked the download button and I won't.

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May 11, 2019 12:14:55   #
rcarol
 
Interestingly, I just received the following message from Adobe regarding an older version of Photoshop:

" Dear Valued Customer,
At Adobe, we always strive to deliver more value to our customers, including much requested new features and capabilities, critical bug fixes and security updates. For these reasons we recommend all customers use the latest release of our Creative Cloud applications.
Unfortunately, we have recently discontinued Photoshop 18.1.6 and earlier versions, which our records show you may be using. While we recommend you update to the latest version of Photoshop, we recognize that some customers may prefer to use Photoshop 18. Therefore, we have released a new version, 18.1.7, which is available to you if you are interested. Please update Photoshop to this version or later by following the instructions below. By upgrading, you will continue to receive all the value that Creative Cloud has to offer.
Please be aware that should you continue to use the discontinued version of Photoshop 18.1.6 (or earlier) you may be at risk of potential claims of infringement by third parties.
Here’s what to do next:
• For the simplest experience, download and install the latest version of Photoshop using the Creative Cloud Desktop application.
• If you do not have the Creative Cloud Desktop application, you can download and install it here.
• For detailed instructions on how to use the Creative Cloud Desktop application, click here.
• You can download and install Photoshop 18.1.7 (after signing in) from Adobe.com here.

Should you have any difficulties, Adobe’s Customer Support organization is available to answer any questions about upgrading your Creative Cloud software. Please contact them here. Finally, we apologize for any inconvenience this may cause and thank you in advance for your cooperation.
Regards,
The Adobe Team"

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May 11, 2019 13:52:20   #
smf85 Loc: Freeport, IL
 
Every major piece of software has multiple, sometimes hundreds or smaller pieces (called modules, libraries etc.). They are often licensed from other parties. Therein lies a possible issue - if the provider terminated the license of the smaller piece the whole thing can become open to infringement claims. The provider, in this case Adobe, is liable for any customer use of infringing software. And once the end user is notified - the end user is also liable. Usually the purchase contract allows for this possibility, so it’s relatively infrequently seen. Which get to the other possibility.

Another possibility is Adobe lost a patent case and couldn’t work out a settlement with the patent owner. There isn’t any way to avoid the letter in this situation. This is the situation which most often occurs.

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