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May 8, 2019 20:40:10   #
Islandgal Loc: Vancouver Island, British Columbia. Canada
 
srt101fan wrote:
Do you disrespect nature if you destroy a hornets nest in your yard? Jus' askin'....😐


Lets keep the context to photography?

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May 8, 2019 20:52:00   #
Thephotoguy
 
It does look stressed, but I do not understand why you would get closer to get a picture. Do not get me wrong, it is a wonderful photograph, but if you are going to take a photo of that, might as well use the longest lens on the market, like a 70 to 200mm lens . This just protects you from being attacked by wild life, and keeps them stress free.

Btw I am going back to the bird photo from the beginning

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May 8, 2019 20:53:49   #
Blenheim Orange Loc: Michigan
 
srt101fan wrote:
Do you disrespect nature if you destroy a hornets nest in your yard? Jus' askin'....😐


Possibly, sure. Obviously, as I know from my long experience in agriculture, "man leaves a footprint" as the saying goes. That is to say, it is impossible to have zero impact on the natural world, of which we are, of course, a part. There are always trade offs, and there are no simple answers. In general, if you can avoid killing things that is a good idea. Now, if you are saying that you have an infestation of hornets, you know what species they are, and you know that they are posing some sort of risk to you or your loved ones, and you are clear about that and have done your research, and you have a method for dealing with that problem in a responsible and safe way - that is what you are saying, yes?

Pollinator species are in trouble and that is a problem. Eventually problems like that will impact all of us. You can choose to be mindful of that, or not. It is never a question of man versus nature, but always an issue of least harm to man and to nature. As nature goes, so go we.

Jus' sayin'...

Mike

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May 8, 2019 21:29:21   #
srt101fan
 
Blenheim Orange wrote:
Possibly, sure. Obviously, as I know from my long experience in agriculture, "man leaves a footprint" as the saying goes. That is to say, it is impossible to have zero impact on the natural world, of which we are, of course, a part. There are always trade offs, and there are no simple answers. In general, if you can avoid killing things that is a good idea. Now, if you are saying that you have an infestation of hornets, you know what species they are, and you know that they are posing some sort of risk to you or your loved ones, and you are clear about that and have done your research, and you have a method for dealing with that problem in a responsible and safe way - that is what you are saying, yes?

Pollinator species are in trouble and that is a problem. Eventually problems like that will impact all of us. You can choose to be mindful of that, or not. It is never a question of man versus nature, but always an issue of least harm to man and to nature. As nature goes, so go we.

Jus' sayin'...

Mike
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May 8, 2019 21:39:14   #
Blenheim Orange Loc: Michigan
 
Thephotoguy wrote:
It does look stressed, but I do not understand why you would get closer to get a picture. Do not get me wrong, it is a wonderful photograph, but if you are going to take a photo of that, might as well use the longest lens on the market, like a 70 to 200mm lens . This just protects you from being attacked by wild life, and keeps them stress free.

Btw I am going back to the bird photo from the beginning


Welcome to UHH.

Mike

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May 8, 2019 22:33:02   #
srt101fan
 
Islandgal wrote:
Lets keep the context to photography?


Islandgal, my comment, perhaps too easily interpreted as flippant and off-topic, was made in the context of the "Disrespecting nature" subject. What is the difference between disrespecting nature while photographing and disrespecting nature while engaging in any other human activity?

The point I tried to raise (and didn't very well!) is that our "respect" for animals generally factors in things like beauty, cuteness, admirable traits, etc. Has anybody here expressed concern about the stress you cause a bug by shoving a macro lens in its face? A cockroach could provide a photo op, but wouldn't most of us just want to squash it?

So showing "respect for nature" is not a simple issue of what's right and what's wrong. And there is a certain amount of hypocrisy and discrimination involved in the way we bestow our respect on the animal world....

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May 9, 2019 08:52:10   #
jaymatt Loc: Alexandria, Indiana
 
No. If you’d traipsed off toward the nest and actually made him feel threatened, probably yes.

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May 9, 2019 11:06:04   #
saxman71 Loc: Wenatchee
 
I personally think too much is being made of this. Where do the vast majority of ospreys build their nests? On platforms erected by humans near walking paths and highways and in public parks. In fact, has anyone ever seen an osprey build a nest on something other than a human erected platform? People are really the least of their concerns with crows, eagles and other predators attempting to steal eggs and chicks off that high platform. Here in Seattle I know of half a dozen active human erected platforms that people regularly gather around to watch nest building and feeding activities of the osprey. The ospreys keep coming back year after year so my conclusion is the photographers aren't really bothering them all that much.

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