Disrespecting nature (Page 2): I don't know enough to have an opinion in this case. If you were still on the public right of way aka road, it seems ok, if you wade into the brush its a...

bleirer

I don't know enough to have an opinion in this case. If you were still on the public right of way aka road, it seems ok, if you wade into the brush its a tough call, is it a farm or a preserve? Are you trespassing? I dont know. Did you provoke or just try to quietly approach. So many variables.

As lifetime national park lovers, we have to reign ourselves in when we see the the way people behave. So called 'social trails' meaning shortcuts have such an impact because it is not one person a day but 1000, repeated over the entire summer. People ignore the signs to stay off the protected areas at will, and if you say something you are the villian. I've seen people send their kids into to brush to get a shot of a bear marking a tree, into the meadow to pose with a bison with young, climb over the do not cross fence onto outcroppings for a selfie, and worse.

I have a family member that invented a facetious "scofflaw-banned for life" badge. I wish it was real.

Reconvic Loc: clermont Fl

Linda From Maine wrote:

You didn't use quote reply, but I'll assume you're speaking to me. If you go back to your Gallery topic you will see that you didn't mention the circumstances of the shoot in your opening. If you felt bad about disturbing them, you could have said something then. It could have been a good way to help educate others.

It seems that you can't avoid personal comments. I am a new wildlife photographer that simply wants objective opinions of what is the definition "being disrespectful to nature". Most are expressing those opinions objectively....thanks Linda

Linda From Maine Loc: Yakima, Washington

Reconvic wrote:

It seems that you can't avoid personal comments. I am a new wildlife photographer that simply wants objective opinions of what is the definition "being disrespectful to nature". Most are expressing those opinions objectively....thanks Linda

I'm pleased to have been able to help get you past your initial rant 😇

Reconvic Loc: clermont Fl

bleirer wrote:

I don't know enough to have an opinion in this cas... (show quote)

Yes bleirer it was a public highway and I was on the shoulder of the road about 4 feet from speeding traffic. My wife was telling me that I was going to get struck. When I heard the osprey's warning I quickly reentered my vehicle not out of fear but out of respect....

Reconvic Loc: clermont Fl

Reconvic wrote:

Yes bleirer it was a public highway and I was on the shoulder of the road about 4 feet from speeding traffic. My wife was telling me that I was going to get struck. When I heard the osprey's warning I quickly reentered my vehicle not out of fear but out of respect....

PLEASE stop Linda.

Mac Loc: Pittsburgh, Philadelphia now Hernando Co. Fl.

Reconvic wrote:

An hour ago I posted the topic "very ANGRY mom". It was a photo of a mother osprey on the nest that was angry that I approached. The circumstances were that the nest was no more than 25 feet from a very busy highway and I pulled the truck off onto the shoulder and stepped 5 feet out of the truck. Even if the nest was out in an open field and in my attempt to get close I angered the osprey, is that disrespecting nature?

It is my opinion that we must respect wildlife. Humans don't like having their space invaded and neither does wildlife. I have encountered this same situation numerous times, mostly with Sandhill Cranes. I'll stop on the other side of the road if possible or farther down the road so I won't alarm the wildlife, and then slowly walk toward it to give it a chance to see me coming. Birds will let you know when you are getting too close for their comfort. Startling or surprising them is not good.
I don't know what your military service has to do with anything. I served in the Navy (not a lifer), I am a Vietnam Veteran, and I don't expect any special consideration. To pull your service out and wave it around and act like people shouldn't say certain things to you because of it isn't the way to be.

Reconvic Loc: clermont Fl

Mac wrote:

It is my opinion that we must respect wildlife. Hu... (show quote)

Just emphasizing what the word disrespect means to me. I didn't bring the military into this forum, another did...

Reconvic Loc: clermont Fl

I'm new to UHH. Is this the nature of trying to get objectivity on a subject without getting personal?

Linda From Maine Loc: Yakima, Washington

Reconvic wrote:

I'm new to UHH. Is this the nature of trying to get objectivity on a subject without getting personal? I didn't bring the military into this forum, another did...

You can't pretend that your behavior in the other topic never happened just because you posted a new topic in a different section. All of us are the sum of all our previous UHH comments (anyone can see everyone's topics and comment history with a quick click of user name/avatar).

OK, I'll leave you alone now. All the best in your photographic pursuits.

Reconvic Loc: clermont Fl

Linda From Maine wrote:

You can't pretend that your behavior in the other topic never happened just because you posted a new topic in a different section. All of us are the sum of all our previous UHH comments (anyone can see everyone's topics and comment history with a quick click of user name/avatar).

OK, I'll leave you alone now. All the best in your photographic pursuits.

lol

imagemeister Loc: mid east Florida

Reconvic wrote:

I'm not taking this personal. I genuinely want to know if a photographer in an endeavor to get a sharper image causes an animal to react in anger or flight is stressing and being disrespectful to nature or the animal.

YES in general - IMO - but especially around nests.....
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Reconvic Loc: clermont Fl

imagemeister wrote:

YES in general - IMO - but especially around nests.....
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I agree imagemeister

Gene51 Loc: Yonkers, NY, now in LSD (LowerSlowerDelaware)

MadMikeOne wrote:

Absolutely YES! If any action causes the bird/animal to change its behavior, the bird/animal is exhibiting signs of stress.

Your responses in both topics that you started indicate that you ARE most definitely taking this personally, despite what your words state.

Islandgal Loc: Vancouver Island, British Columbia. Canada

Wildlife will act in unpredictable ways to their own or you when they are stressed. It is a learning experience not to repeat for the benefit of both.

srt101fan

Do you disrespect nature if you destroy a hornets nest in your yard? Jus' askin'....😐