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Apr 29, 2019 00:13:37   #
mwalsh Loc: Houston
 
phcaan wrote:
What he did say is that he didn't want to make any conclusions but he found it very unusual that given the circumstances the fire spread as fast as it did. He also said that the electrical systems had been modernized with fire danger in mind.
I only read the text, I don't speak french.


Within the first couple of days I heard reporting that the fire detection system went off, but the sensors malfunctioned and the staff went to the wrong area, delaying the discovery of the fire.

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Apr 29, 2019 00:17:24   #
phcaan Loc: Willow Springs, MO
 
mwalsh wrote:
Within the first couple of days I heard reporting that the fire detection system went off, but the sensors malfunctioned and the staff went to the wrong area, delaying the discovery of the fire.


All I got from the interview was that there are some interesting points that may point to more to this than we have been told by the media. The man also talked about the detection systems and it was pointed out that no work was being done in the area the fire started.

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Apr 29, 2019 01:31:42   #
Angmo
 
phcaan wrote:
What he did say is that he didn't want to make any conclusions but he found it very unusual that given the circumstances the fire spread as fast as it did. He also said that the electrical systems had been modernized with fire danger in mind.
I only read the text, I don't speak french.


The authorities there are way behind protecting historic sites for fire protection with modern sprinkler systems and such. If and when they get around to it, some idiot will install them wrong.

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Apr 29, 2019 07:35:49   #
Rose42
 
Texcaster wrote:
lol! I said it once before today .... "You boy's are lost without dirt".

This is the second whack job v whack job stouch we've had today. Good times!


Don’t underestimate your ability to be a whack job. Lol

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Apr 29, 2019 08:32:24   #
RichieC Loc: Adirondacks
 
Lets see.... during renovation, it is discovered that the ceiling is toast- 800 year old oak, bugs, etc., etc..... they have no money to replace it, nor even money to design a replacement or to hire the special artisans and personal to re-produce it... what to do, what to do... "Suddenly a light goes off in his head! a great big bright light- wait, no... it's a candle..."

And I quote, copy and pasted from: [https://www.thrillist.com/travel/nation/notre-dame-fire-damage-what-was-destroyed-or-saved] and collaborated elsewhere... :

"According to a tweet from Reuters and attributed to a fire official, “The structure of Notre-Dame has been saved from total destruction.” Meanwhile, French journalist Nicolas Delesalle ‏tweeted, “Good news: all the artworks have been saved. The treasure of the cathedral is intact, the crown of thorns, the holy sacraments.” As of publication, it remains unclear what else has been saved."

Either a tragedy or a brilliant stroke of ingenuity... I mean if you were going do do something like this- when would you do it?

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Apr 29, 2019 10:15:31   #
Steven Seward Loc: Cleveland, Ohio
 
mwalsh wrote:
I did not hear him say the blaze "was no accident," as the title of the thread suggests. He did express incredulity as to how the fire spread so quickly. His opinion was that 800 year old oak is so hard that fire propagation would be a slow event.

I wonder if that is true. Seems like ancient wood would be thoroughly dry and dessicated, and I would think therefore more flammable. But he should be more expert on that than I!

If he made the comment that he thought it no accident, I missed it. Which could be as I was listening to the French and not reading the subtitles. But his message was definitely more about just not understanding how it could have happened so fast.
I did not hear him say the blaze "was no acci... (show quote)

It was pretty clear from the moderator that the idea of arson was a taboo subject. It could be that arson would suggest a Muslim culprit and they have politically correct taboos in France about blaming Muslims.

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Apr 29, 2019 10:21:29   #
Angmo
 
Steven Seward wrote:
It was pretty clear from the moderator that the idea of arson was a taboo subject. It could be that arson would suggest a Muslim culprit and they have politically correct taboos in France about blaming Muslims.


As sections of the city burns and becomes uninhabitable for non-Muslims. .,.

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Apr 29, 2019 10:34:05   #
mjmoore17 Loc: Philadelphia, PA area
 
Angmo wrote:
800 years of service, unhindered by progress


Till the end, a little progress might have helped.

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Apr 29, 2019 11:06:35   #
travelwp Loc: New Jersey
 
Texcaster wrote:
"You boy's are lost without dirt".


I haven't been on here for a while, what happened to Dirt ?

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Apr 29, 2019 12:04:26   #
Steven Seward Loc: Cleveland, Ohio
 
travelwp wrote:
I haven't been on here for a while, what happened to Dirt ?

Maybe he "hit the dirt?"

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Apr 29, 2019 12:51:04   #
papakatz45 Loc: South Florida-West Palm Beach
 
Texcaster wrote:
lol! I said it once before today .... "You boy's are lost without dirt".

This is the second whack job v whack job stouch we've had today. Good times!


Seems like you are the one that misses dirtpusher. You are the one that keeps bringing him up.

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Apr 29, 2019 16:52:40   #
Texcaster Loc: Queensland
 
travelwp wrote:
I haven't been on here for a while, what happened to Dirt ?


Elected to the Oklahoma statehouse.

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Apr 29, 2019 16:53:47   #
Texcaster Loc: Queensland
 
papakatz45 wrote:
Seems like you are the one that misses dirtpusher. You are the one that keeps bringing him up.


Of course I miss Dirt, he's gritty.

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Apr 29, 2019 16:54:48   #
Texcaster Loc: Queensland
 
Rose42 wrote:
Don’t underestimate your ability to be a whack job. Lol


I blame it on Old Testament God.

Your excuse?

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Apr 29, 2019 18:25:19   #
Rose42
 
Texcaster wrote:
I blame it on Old Testament God.

Your excuse?


Genetics.

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