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Mar 26, 2019 10:10:20   #
GrandmaG Loc: Flat Rock, MI
 
HarryBinNC wrote:
I have had a 27" ASUS display for about 5 years or so that has an SRGB mode - I have the EyeOne system, which I used on the ASUS about 3-4 times in the first year or so and the "calibration" made no difference. Now here I am about 4 years after I stopped using the EyeOne on it, and it is still outputting nearly perfect prints with my Epson P800. This is the only display that I have ever owned that just never needed calibration. I suspect one day it will just up and die, which will make me very sad.
I have had a 27" ASUS display for about 5 yea... (show quote)


That’s very interesting and great for you. Is EyeOne a calibration device?

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Mar 26, 2019 11:28:10   #
burkphoto Loc: High Point, NC
 
GrandmaG wrote:
You’re lucky, the Spyder 5 is getting the upgrade to 64-bit. I also have a MacBook Pro, but I have never calibrated the monitor because I never print from it, although I do occasionally edit in Lightroom on it. I think the screen matches the iMac pretty close.


I calibrated nine Lacie Electron Blue 19" CRT monitors back in 2002, when I ran the color correction department of a major school portrait lab. I used a Spyder 2 Pro for that. They matched each other within about 1 brightness and color point, and matched the master printer equally as well (We had lots of different printing devices... Noritsu mini-labs, Epson 9600, Fargo, Eltron, Polaroid, and Pebble ID Card printers, Canon color copier/printers, etc.).

ICC color management saved us hundreds of THOUSANDS of dollars' worth of photo paper, chemistry, and associated labor and overhead that had previously been wasted. If anyone here is struggling with color not matching between monitor and printer, or monitor and lab, visit http://www.datacolor.com and http://www.xrite.com and get some basic education in color management.

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Mar 26, 2019 11:29:14   #
MacEarl
 
Have you looked into XRite products.... the go-to standard now for color management hardware and software also?

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Mar 26, 2019 11:45:45   #
GrandmaG Loc: Flat Rock, MI
 
tcthome wrote:
X rite i1display pro or the studio. With the studio you do custom paper printer profiles also if you print. I'm guessing you were looking for a cheaper solution though. Good luck.


Not necessarily cheaper, but maybe better. It always costs more with upgrades, it seems. Every time I got a new computer, some software or hardware would no longer work. That’s the price of advancement in the real world.

Do you have the Xrite calibration system?If so, which one and how do you like it?

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Mar 26, 2019 11:48:00   #
GrandmaG Loc: Flat Rock, MI
 
MacEarl wrote:
Have you looked into XRite products.... the go-to standard now for color management hardware and software also?


Yes, it’s the same price as Datacolor SpyderX. Do you use and like the Xrite products?

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Mar 26, 2019 12:17:13   #
GrandmaG Loc: Flat Rock, MI
 
burkphoto wrote:
I calibrated nine Lacie Electron Blue 19" CRT monitors back in 2002, when I ran the color correction department of a major school portrait lab. I used a Spyder 2 Pro for that. They matched each other within about 1 brightness and color point, and matched the master printer equally as well (We had lots of different printing devices... Noritsu mini-labs, Epson 9600, Fargo, Eltron, Polaroid, and Pebble ID Card printers, Canon color copier/printers, etc.).

ICC color management saved us hundreds of THOUSANDS of dollars' worth of photo paper, chemistry, and associated labor and overhead that had previously been wasted. If anyone here is struggling with color not matching between monitor and printer, or monitor and lab, visit http://www.datacolor.com and http://www.xrite.com and get some basic education in color management.
I calibrated nine Lacie Electron Blue 19" CRT... (show quote)


Thank you for these links. I found it very interesting. Xrite also has some VERY expensive calibration devices!

It looks like both will calibrate dual monitors on one computer. I only have one now, but that could change in the future. I couldn’t determine if the Xrite will be compatible with the next generation OS, 10.15 64-bit, so I will ask their rep for that answer.

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Mar 26, 2019 12:33:35   #
GrandmaG Loc: Flat Rock, MI
 
Xrite offers a larger variety of monitor calibration devices. The more I research, the more confused I get!

Color Munki-$163
Color Munki Photo - $499
Xrite i1 Display Pro -$259

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Mar 26, 2019 13:27:08   #
GrandmaG Loc: Flat Rock, MI
 
GrandmaG wrote:
That’s very interesting and great for you. Is EyeOne a calibration device?


EDIT: I looked it up and see that EyeOne (i 1) is the Xrite software.

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Mar 26, 2019 13:48:50   #
cjc2 Loc: Hellertown PA
 
rgrenaderphoto wrote:
If found Datacolor was fine for single monitor use, but it could not match color profiles for dual monitors. The X-Rite Passport Photo is superior.

Also, it is typical of Apple to upgrade the OS and require you to either purchase new software or wait for upgrades.


I have been using the Spyder on dual monitors with no issues on my iMac Pro. As far as upgrades to 64 bit software, Apple has been providing this information for at least a year, which now includes a warning when you open incompatible software on the latest OS. I find this very user, and upgrade friendly. 64 Bit is the future. Technology marches on. If we expect to see progress, old software will only impede that. Best of luck.

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Mar 26, 2019 16:39:27   #
GrandmaG Loc: Flat Rock, MI
 
cjc2 wrote:
I have been using the Spyder on dual monitors with no issues on my iMac Pro. As far as upgrades to 64 bit software, Apple has been providing this information for at least a year, which now includes a warning when you open incompatible software on the latest OS. I find this very user, and upgrade friendly. 64 Bit is the future. Technology marches on. If we expect to see progress, old software will only impede that. Best of luck.


I know and I agree. Which Spyder are you using? I am debating between the SpyderX and ColorMunki Display.

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Mar 26, 2019 17:54:41   #
cjc2 Loc: Hellertown PA
 
GrandmaG wrote:
I know and I agree. Which Spyder are you using? I am debating between the SpyderX and ColorMunki Display.


I own a Spyder 5 Elite, and before that another Spyder. IF absolutely necessary I'll probably get the latest Spyder just because that's what I'm familiar with and I've not had any issues. Having never used the competition, Bill Burk may be able to give you a better comparison. AFAIK, its 6 of one, half a dozen of the other. Also, I'd wait for B&H to have a sale which is what I did for the one I have now. Best of luck.

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Mar 26, 2019 19:35:39   #
Gene51 Loc: Yonkers, NY, now in LSD (LowerSlowerDelaware)
 
HarryBinNC wrote:
I have had a 27" ASUS display for about 5 years or so that has an SRGB mode - I have the EyeOne system, which I used on the ASUS about 3-4 times in the first year or so and the "calibration" made no difference. Now here I am about 4 years after I stopped using the EyeOne on it, and it is still outputting nearly perfect prints with my Epson P800. This is the only display that I have ever owned that just never needed calibration. I suspect one day it will just up and die, which will make me very sad.
I have had a 27" ASUS display for about 5 yea... (show quote)


Every display I have ever owned needed monthly profiling. The backlight ages and loses brightness over time and colors shift. No display is immune from this.

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Mar 26, 2019 21:06:37   #
rfmaude41 Loc: Lancaster, Texas (DFW area)
 
rgrenaderphoto wrote:
If found Datacolor was fine for single monitor use, but it could not match color profiles for dual monitors. The X-Rite Passport Photo is superior.

Also, it is typical of Apple to upgrade the OS and require you to either purchase new software or wait for upgrades.


I have absolutely NO PROBLEMS matching dual monitors with the Spyder, but then again, I'm running Windows, not the apple OS.

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Mar 26, 2019 23:17:45   #
burkphoto Loc: High Point, NC
 
cjc2 wrote:
I have been using the Spyder on dual monitors with no issues on my iMac Pro. As far as upgrades to 64 bit software, Apple has been providing this information for at least a year, which now includes a warning when you open incompatible software on the latest OS. I find this very user, and upgrade friendly. 64 Bit is the future. Technology marches on. If we expect to see progress, old software will only impede that. Best of luck.


Datacolor will update the Spyder5 family software later this year, to make it 64-bit.

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Mar 26, 2019 23:36:34   #
GrandmaG Loc: Flat Rock, MI
 
burkphoto wrote:
Datacolor will update the Spyder5 family software later this year, to make it 64-bit.


Yes, they will. I’m out of luck, though. I have a Spyder4

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