64-bit app for monitor calibration: I use Apple OS, which will require only 64 bit apps with the next upgrade after Mojave (which will be 10.15). I have the Spyder Express4, which is a...

GrandmaG Loc: Flat Rock, MI

I use Apple OS, which will require only 64 bit apps with the next upgrade after Mojave (which will be 10.15). I have the Spyder Express4, which is a 32 bit app. So I contacted Spyder to see if they plan to upgrade it to 64bit.

Here is their reply:
Datacolor is aware of the situation and will inform their customers.
For Spyder5 we are planning to provide an update around mid 2019, before Apple launches macOS 10.15.
The new SpyderX is already a 64-bit application.

We recommend to upgrade to the new SpyderX, the fastest, most accurate and easiest-to-use monitor calibration tool ever created by Datacolor.

SpyderX is $170 at B&H. I haven’t looked into alternate devices for monitor calibration. Any suggestions?

jerryc41 Loc: Catskill Mts of NY

Thanks. Good to know.

rgrenaderphoto Loc: Hollywood, CA

GrandmaG wrote:

I use Apple OS, which will require only 64 bit app... (show quote)

If found Datacolor was fine for single monitor use, but it could not match color profiles for dual monitors. The X-Rite Passport Photo is superior.

Also, it is typical of Apple to upgrade the OS and require you to either purchase new software or wait for upgrades.

Larry Powell Loc: Columbus OH

Are you using Apple monitors? iMac? They are right on the money and it is very doubtful you will need to calibrate tem.

Rich1939 Loc: Pike County Penna.

Larry Powell wrote:

Are you using Apple monitors? iMac? They are right on the money and it is very doubtful you will need to calibrate tem.

Larry, even monitors which a specifically designed for photo applications need periodic calibration. Apple is no exception

HarryBinNC Loc: Blue Ridge Mtns, No.Carolina, USA

Rich1939 wrote:

Larry, even monitors which a specifically designed for photo applications need periodic calibration. Apple is no exception

I have had a 27" ASUS display for about 5 years or so that has an SRGB mode - I have the EyeOne system, which I used on the ASUS about 3-4 times in the first year or so and the "calibration" made no difference. Now here I am about 4 years after I stopped using the EyeOne on it, and it is still outputting nearly perfect prints with my Epson P800. This is the only display that I have ever owned that just never needed calibration. I suspect one day it will just up and die, which will make me very sad.

tcthome Loc: NJ

X rite i1display pro or the studio. With the studio you do custom paper printer profiles also if you print. I'm guessing you were looking for a cheaper solution though. Good luck.

Gene51 Loc: Yonkers, NY, now in LSD (LowerSlowerDelaware)

rgrenaderphoto wrote:

If found Datacolor was fine for single monitor use, but it could not match color profiles for dual monitors. The X-Rite Passport Photo is superior.

Also, it is typical of Apple to upgrade the OS and require you to either purchase new software or wait for upgrades.

GrandmaG is looking for a display profiling tool, not a camera profile tool which is what the Passport Photo is.

This is a compatibility report from Xrite specifically addressing the new MacOS update and some of their software:

https://www.xrite.com/service-support/knownmacosxhighsierra1013issues

Manglesphoto Loc: 70 miles south of St.Louis

GrandmaG wrote:

I use Apple OS, which will require only 64 bit app... (show quote)

I have been using an Xrite Color Munki for over 10 yrs. Bought an iMac 27" and updated to Movjave, started to install the old Xrite software , wouldn't work. Call Xrite tech support within 15 min I had new software (i1Studio) installed and running. The Tech. was very nice and led me through the whole process, even waited while I made sure everything was working. Pretty darn good support for a 10yr old + tool.

Wish Snap-on tool was that good on 10 yr old $3k+ scanner. no updates available!!!!!!
Oh well I'M retired, but I would have been nice to be able to check my 2018 Grand Caravan before sending it to the dealer.

Rich1939 Loc: Pike County Penna.

HarryBinNC wrote:

I have had a 27" ASUS display for about 5 yea... (show quote)

Harry, I use an ASUS PA248 which I suspect is a 24" version of the same monitor. I calibrate in the 'standard mode' using a Spyder and it does shift a bit from calibration to calibration

burkphoto Loc: High Point, NC

Rich1939 wrote:

Larry, even monitors which a specifically designed for photo applications need periodic calibration. Apple is no exception

Yeah, I’ll agree with that. I use an iMac, and my kids have MacBook Pros. With native settings, they don’t match each other, or my printer. Calibrated and profiled with Spyder5Pro, the iMac matches the printer (and the lab I use), and the MacBook Pros come much closer, although we never use them for critical work.

GrandmaG Loc: Flat Rock, MI

Larry Powell wrote:

Are you using Apple monitors? iMac? They are right on the money and it is very doubtful you will need to calibrate tem.

I had read that somewhere, too. I have an iMac with the Apple retinal monitor.

However, I got better results after it was calibrated.

GrandmaG Loc: Flat Rock, MI

Manglesphoto wrote:

I have been using an Xrite Color Munki for over 10... (show quote)

Guess I picked the wrong calibration device! Datacolor isn’t upgrading my older Spyder 4!

GrandmaG Loc: Flat Rock, MI

burkphoto wrote:

Yeah, I’ll agree with that. I use an iMac, and my kids have MacBook Pros. With native settings, they don’t match each other, or my printer. Calibrated and profiled with Spyder5Pro, the iMac matches the printer (and the lab I use), and the MacBook Pros come much closer, although we never use them for critical work.

You’re lucky, the Spyder 5 is getting the upgrade to 64-bit. I also have a MacBook Pro, but I have never calibrated the monitor because I never print from it, although I do occasionally edit in Lightroom on it. I think the screen matches the iMac pretty close.

GrandmaG Loc: Flat Rock, MI

Gene51 wrote:

GrandmaG is looking for a display profiling tool, not a camera profile tool which is what the Passport Photo is.

This is a compatibility report from Xrite specifically addressing the new MacOS update and some of their software:

https://www.xrite.com/service-support/knownmacosxhighsierra1013issues

Thank you for this. It looks like Xrite is upgrading ALL of their calibration software tor all of their devices, unlike Datacolor. Unfortunately, I would still have to buy a new calibration device at $170. It’s just deciding on which one. I’m leaning towards Xrite as it seems they offer better support.