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Jan 1, 2019 14:27:51   #
xt2 Loc: British Columbia, Canada
 

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Jan 1, 2019 14:30:47   #
xt2 Loc: British Columbia, Canada
 
SAGE advice...

Blurryeyed wrote:
I would beg to differ, it really depends on what your photography asperations are. If you are shooting nature be it macro or BIF or just wildlife in general I think that the crop camera offers a great advantage, the same can be said for sporting events. What many people don't realize is that the smaller sensor at 24mp is much more pixel dense than the larger sensors which means not only do you get the crop sensor advantage of being closer at any given focal length but you also get a cropping advantage in that most full frames will begin to pixelate as you try to crop tightly. Both Canon and Nikon have come out with 50mp class full frames cameras that are similar in pixel density of the crop cameras but they are expensive.

If you are wanting a camera with less noise and better Dynamic range, then the full frame foots that bill, but simply moving from a crop to full frame without knowing why you are making that decision can be a costly mistake for many people. I did not make the move until the 30mp 5DIV and even then because of my particular subject interest I purchased a 5DSR because I missed the higher pixel density of my crop cameras.
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Jan 1, 2019 15:27:14   #
Kuzano
 
NO!

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Jan 1, 2019 16:34:22   #
spaceytracey Loc: East Glacier Park, MT
 
I've been considering switching to FF for about 6 mos but, have decided to put my money into quality lenses for my current camera.

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Jan 1, 2019 16:58:50   #
larryepage Loc: North Texas area
 
spaceytracey wrote:
I've been considering switching to FF for about 6 mos but, have decided to put my money into quality lenses for my current camera.

The best of the quality lenses tend to be full frame models. So your choice puts you on a very good roadmap to prepare for when you do decide to switch or expand to full frame.

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Jan 1, 2019 18:42:44   #
aellman Loc: Boston MA
 
4OX wrote:
I am thinking about going full frame. I see pros and cons of each camera, but would like to see them side by side, in a concise way. But my question is this--can I use my current lenses with a full frame camera, or will I have to buy ALL NEW LENSES??? And I don't know what the "EF" and other abreviations mean. Thanks for sharing your thoughts and wisdom in advance! Happy New Year!


Before you spend a bundle on a FF camera and lenses ask yourself, "What
does my camera NOT do that I need? If your honest answer is "nothing,"
you can save a boatload of cash. Here's a different way to think about it:
not making this purchase is pretty much the equivalent of the same amount
in tax-free income. >Alan

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Jan 1, 2019 18:46:37   #
khorinek
 
I used the Canon 7D for years. In 2013 i bought a Canon 6D. To me the difference was obvious. The full frame 6D had so much better image quality. Iv'e since upgraded to the Canon 5D Mark III and now I use the Canon 5D Mark IV. I recommend using full frame lenses as well. Even going to the "L" quality lenses if you can afford it. If you are serious about photography and plan to stay with it I'd go full frame, you wont be disappointed.

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Jan 1, 2019 18:54:55   #
Dennis833 Loc: Australia
 
I was talking to another professional landscape photographer yesterday and he commented on one of my images in my 2019 calendar. When I said it was shot with a Sony NEX7 his reply was ....You would never know.

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Jan 1, 2019 18:58:46   #
PHRubin Loc: Nashville TN USA
 
khorinek wrote:
I used the Canon 7D for years. In 2013 i bought a Canon 6D. To me the difference was obvious. The full frame 6D had so much better image quality. Iv'e since upgraded to the Canon 5D Mark III and now I use the Canon 5D Mark IV. I recommend using full frame lenses as well. Even going to the "L" quality lenses if you can afford it. If you are serious about photography and plan to stay with it I'd go full frame, you wont be disappointed.


You went from 18 MP to 26 MP. It's not surprising the quality is much better. I wonder if you would have seen such a difference going from an 80D with 24 MP.

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Jan 1, 2019 19:05:34   #
khorinek
 
yeah, probably not. I like the idea of using a full frame camera, when you have a 24-70 lens, that's what you get. With cropped sensor you have to use the multiplier (1.6) to figure out what your zoom range is. Although, I'm not sure if that's a big deal. The standard kit lens (18-55) is nearly the same as the standard full frame lens of 24-70. The industry has accommodated both methods with lenses that work for both. The bottom line, most photos taken today are used in some type of digital media, facebook, twitter, desktops, etc. Honestly one could not tell if the image was taken on a full frame of cropped sensor camera.

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Jan 1, 2019 19:25:28   #
robertjerl Loc: Corona, California
 
khorinek wrote:
I used the Canon 7D for years. In 2013 i bought a Canon 6D. To me the difference was obvious. The full frame 6D had so much better image quality. Iv'e since upgraded to the Canon 5D Mark III and now I use the Canon 5D Mark IV. I recommend using full frame lenses as well. Even going to the "L" quality lenses if you can afford it. If you are serious about photography and plan to stay with it I'd go full frame, you wont be disappointed.


7D aps-c 18mp

6D ff 20mp
5DIII ff 22mp
5DIV ff 30mp
all of these have larger more capable pixels, esp in dim light, drawback is you have to get closer to fill the frame (or spend $$$$$ for a longer lens)

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Jan 1, 2019 19:47:41   #
PHRubin Loc: Nashville TN USA
 
robertjerl wrote:
7D aps-c 18mp

6D ff 20mp
5DIII ff 22mp
5DIV ff 30mp
all of these have larger more capable pixels, esp in dim light, drawback is you have to get closer to fill the frame (or spend $$$$$ for a longer lens)


You left out the 80D which has 24 MP and you don't need to get closer but you do need a little more light.

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Jan 1, 2019 22:28:20   #
robertjerl Loc: Corona, California
 
PHRubin wrote:
You left out the 80D which has 24 MP and you don't need to get closer but you do need a little more light.


I was going over the cameras he said he had used the last few years. The 80D would fit the list as a replacement for the 7D. 7DII would also fit but it's sensor is being outclassed by the 80D sensor for some things. I swapped my 7DII and 6D for an 80D and 5DIV. I do miss the extra controls and high/end AF choices of the 7DII. A 7DII with the 24mp sensor and the 27 f/8 AF points would be great. Throw in the EOS R's f/11 AF and the huge number of AF points and ... (small birds and insects in flight could not slip between the AF points).

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Jan 1, 2019 23:14:15   #
SueScott Loc: Hammondsville, Ohio
 
Blurryeyed wrote:
I would beg to differ, it really depends on what your photography asperations are. If you are shooting nature be it macro or BIF or just wildlife in general I think that the crop camera offers a great advantage, the same can be said for sporting events. What many people don't realize is that the smaller sensor at 24mp is much more pixel dense than the larger sensors which means not only do you get the crop sensor advantage of being closer at any given focal length but you also get a cropping advantage in that most full frames will begin to pixelate as you try to crop tightly. Both Canon and Nikon have come out with 50mp class full frames cameras that are similar in pixel density of the crop cameras but they are expensive.

If you are wanting a camera with less noise and better Dynamic range, then the full frame foots that bill, but simply moving from a crop to full frame without knowing why you are making that decision can be a costly mistake for many people. I did not make the move until the 30mp 5DIV and even then because of my particular subject interest I purchased a 5DSR because I missed the higher pixel density of my crop cameras.
I would beg to differ, it really depends on what y... (show quote)


As someone who is seriously contemplating upgrading to the D760 when it becomes available I have been reading this thread with great interest and in particular, your comment that pixelization would occur when cropping tightly. Is that due solely to the larger sensor in a FF or would a higher quality glass help to negate this effect? I've found with my D7500 that using a better quality lens greatly improves how well an image can be cropped.

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Jan 2, 2019 00:13:56   #
sv3noKin51E
 
40X, not an easy answer, unless you've tried and/or owned both. To some, the FX is the only way to go, but there are days, when a new DX with good glass is extremely good. If you can rent or borrow one of each for a couple of days and rack up a lot of shots in jpg and raw, you'll have a good answer for yourself. Personally, we own and shoot a lot with DX and FX. Whatever works best for you. Good luck, sv.

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