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Dec 25, 2018 10:26:45   #
Crad1998
 
I own a T3 i rebel and am seriously considering buying the Canon eos 80 d. I am looking for advice from people who own the 80 and have made the switch from rebels. This will be my first camera upgrade.

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Dec 25, 2018 10:35:08   #
jerryc41 Loc: Catskill Mts of NY
 
Although I do not own a Canon, I can refer you to camera comparison sites.

Read comparisons and specs, and decide what features are important to you.
(Reviews) https://www.youtube.com/user/TheCameraStoreTV/videos
http://www.cameradecision.com/
http://cameras.reviewed.com/
http://camerasize.com/
http://www.imaging-resource.com/IMCOMP/COMPS01.HTM
http://snapsort.com/compare
http://www.dpreview.com/products/compare/cameras?utm_campaign=internal-link&utm_source=mainmenu&utm_medium=text&ref=mainmenu

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Dec 25, 2018 11:14:26   #
genocolo Loc: Vail and Gasparilla Island
 
I likewise made the move from Rebel to the 80D. Terrific camera. Suggest you look into getting some high quality lenses to complement the camera. Without stepping up to the Canon L line, the 28-135 is very good and versatile.

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Dec 25, 2018 11:15:53   #
Zooman 1
 
I have used the 80D for some time now, and find it to be a great camera. I did add a battery pack to it. I doubt if you will be disappointed with it. Used it on my African trip along with a 7DMII, hard to tell any difference in the images from either camera.

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Dec 25, 2018 11:18:07   #
jeep_daddy Loc: Prescott AZ
 
Crad1998 wrote:
I own a T3 i rebel and am seriously considering buying the Canon eos 80 d. I am looking for advice from people who own the 80 and have made the switch from rebels. This will be my first camera upgrade.


The 80D is a very nice camera. I'm selling one for $800 with an 18-135 lens. It has about 7000 shutter clicks. But that's if you are in California because I don't want to ship this.

Merry Christmas.

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Dec 25, 2018 11:20:00   #
abc1234 Loc: Elk Grove Village, Illinois
 
I had a very early Rebel, went to the 60D and now have the 80D. I can only talk to my experience since I do not know your background or interests. For me, the 80D blew everything else away. As we know, once you get into the $1,000 and up price range, all the cameras are extraordinary. For the money and sensor size, the 80D is a great buy. I recommend it with only one reservation. Once you see how good the pictures are and if you use kit lenses, you will want professional lenses. Hence, the 80D can become very expensive but most rewarding. I bought the body only and used my old lenses. As my needs changed, I replaced some of them with better lenses. Between that and probably selling the old body, you can lessen your cost.

Let me know if you have any specific questions. Shop greentoe.com for the best price.

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Dec 25, 2018 11:21:30   #
amfoto1 Loc: San Jose, Calif. USA
 
The T3i (600D) was a good camera in it's day.

But the 80D is a big step up in virtually every possible way!

First, you are going from a Rebel series to Canon mid-grade DSLR, which means a bigger, brighter viewfinder using a true pentaprism (versus a penta-mirror in the Rebel). You also will get a more rigid metal chassis and added sealing for weather resistance in the 80D. The 80D also has a higher specification shutter... with a faster top speed and flash sync, as well as rating for longer life expectancy. 80D also can shoot continuously at 7 frame per second (compared to 4 fps in T3i).

While both cameras are APS-C format (meaning, in part, that you can use any EF-S lenses you might have on both), the 80D is 24MP... or 33% higher resolution than the 18MP T3i. In addition to the newer sensor providing greater dynamic range and color you will also will find it more usable at higher ISOs... probably at least one stop's worth. Even with more resolution and faster frame rate, thanks to using the larger LP-E6N battery and greater power efficiency, you'll get about twice as many shots per battery charge with the 80D.

The 80D also introduced the 45-point AF system that Canon has been using in a number of cameras. First seen on the 80D, it's now also used in 6D Mark II, 77D and T7i. (In 80D and 6DII it has Micro Focus Adjustment feature, too... that's not provided in T7i or 77D). Your T3i has a pretty basic, but workable 9-point AF system, with one higher performance "cross type" point at the center, good to around -0.5 or -1 EV light levels and "f/5.6 limited". All 45 of the 80D's AF points are cross type, it's able to focus down to -3EV light levels (approx. moonlight) and is "f/8 capable" at up to 27 SF points. This last means that you can use a 1.4X teleconverter on an f/5.6 lens or a 2X on an f/4 lens. On T3i those lens & teleconverter combos would be unable to autofocus.

80D also has Dual Pixel AF in Live View (which was first intro'd on 70D and some form of which is now in almost all Canon interchangeable lens cameras). This is MUCH faster and more useful than the contrast detection AF your T3i uses.

There's a lot more.... Following gives you more detailed info about the 80D's AF system:

https://www.usa.canon.com/internet/portal/us/home/learn/education/topics/article/2018/July/Whats-New-45-point-AF-on-the-Canon-EOS-80D/Whats-New-45-point-AF-on-the-Canon-EOS-80D

The following are two very helpful, detailed reviews of all aspects of the 80D:

https://www.the-digital-picture.com/Reviews/Canon-EOS-80D.aspx
https://www.imaging-resource.com/PRODS/canon-80d/canon-80dA.HTM

And the following go into more detail comparing the 80D versus the T3i:

https://www.imaging-resource.com/cameras/canon/t3i/vs/canon/80d/
https://www.apotelyt.com/compare-camera/canon-t3i-vs-canon-80d
https://cameradecision.com/compare/Canon-EOS-600D-vs-Canon-EOS-80D

Finally, if you don't already have the lens, I'd highly recommend getting the 80D in kit with the EF-S 18-135mm IS USM lens, which is usually the lens that's bundled with the camera. This is the latest and best of Canon's three 18-135s. It uses the new "Nano USM" focus drive, which according to Canon is just as quiet as STM focus drive, but 2X to 4X faster. It's a better all-around lens. It's also the only lens that can optionally be fitted with Canon's PZ-E1 Power Zoom module, which might be a nice accessory if you intend to shoot video. The EF-S 18-135mm IS USM normally sells for $600 new. When bought in kit with the 80D, you can get it for a lot less. (currently the lens in kit is half price: 80D body only is $999... or in kit with the 18-135mm it's $1299.)

The "better" standard zoom lenses are the EF-S 17-55mm f/2.8 IS USM (for it's larger aperture) or the EF-S 15-85mm IS USM (for it's wider angle capabilities). Neither is normally offered in kit with the camera, though, so they both end up more expensive.

P.S. I don't have either T3i or 80D personally. I have used various Canon with the same AF system as T3i and took about a quarter million shots over the course of five years with a pair of 7D that use the same 18MP sensor as T3i. I now mostly shoot with 7D Mark II, which are a step up from 80D in some respects (more sophisticated AF system, additional durability/sealing, faster frame rate), but might even be considered a step down in others (20MP instead of 24MP, fewer f/8 capable AF points).

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Dec 25, 2018 11:33:19   #
Michael1079 Loc: Indiana
 
Crad1998 wrote:
I own a T3 i rebel and am seriously considering buying the Canon eos 80 d. I am looking for advice from people who own the 80 and have made the switch from rebels. This will be my first camera upgrade.


Good day and Merry Christmas. Years ago, I owned Canon F-1 and EF film cameras. I finally purchased a T5i DSLR. The camera worked well, but from that I moved up to a 80D. This is an excellent camera, and I have no problem at all recommending it to you for your consideration! Good quality build, plenty of options/features. I've used it for some astrophotography, but mostly for my granddaughter's soccer and gymnastics competitions. Gymnastics venues are typically pretty poor as far as lighting goes. A higher ISO is required in order to get the shutter speed needed to freeze the action. (Of course, this adds grain. A full frame camera would yield better results.)
I've also done some portrait photography - senior photo shoots and also photographed her gymnastics team images. I'll include some examples of the results.
(Bear in mind that I'm a hobbyist/enthusiast - not a professional! Also, I reduced the originals to a smaller memory size so that they could be uploaded/posted, so some quality was lost. The originals were close to 10 Mb.)

Best wishes to you and good luck!







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Dec 25, 2018 11:39:54   #
abc1234 Loc: Elk Grove Village, Illinois
 
Michael1079 wrote:
Good day and Merry Christmas. Years ago, I owned Canon F-1 and EF film cameras. I finally purchased a T5i DSLR. The camera worked well, but from that I moved up to a 80D. This is an excellent camera, and I have no problem at all recommending it to you for your consideration! Good quality build, plenty of options/features. I've used it for some astrophotography, but mostly for my granddaughter's soccer and gymnastics competitions. Gymnastics venues are typically pretty poor as far as lighting goes. A higher ISO is required in order to get the shutter speed needed to freeze the action. (Of course, this adds grain. A full frame camera would yield better results.)
I've also done some portrait photography - senior photo shoots and also photographed her gymnastics team images. I'll include some examples of the results.
(Bear in mind that I'm a hobbyist/enthusiast - not a professional! Also, I reduced the originals to a smaller memory size so that they could be uploaded/posted, so some quality was lost. The originals were close to 10 Mb.)

Best wishes to you and good luck!
Good day and Merry Christmas. Years ago, I owned C... (show quote)


If you can, please repost with the pictures being downloadable which will show the shots in their full glory.

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Dec 25, 2018 12:29:45   #
Benzzeze Loc: Tucson, Arizona
 
If you are going to step up to an 80D, then you need to seriously consider investing in better glass than kit lenses. Remember it's the lens that captures the light and the resolution that you want in a quality picture. L Series lenses are affordable if you stay away from the faster lenses i.e. go with an f4 instead of a f2.8.

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Dec 25, 2018 12:36:41   #
abc1234 Loc: Elk Grove Village, Illinois
 
Benzzeze wrote:
If you are going to step up to an 80D, then you need to seriously consider investing in better glass than kit lenses. Remember it's the lens that captures the light and the resolution that you want in a quality picture. L Series lenses are affordable if you stay away from the faster lenses i.e. go with an f4 instead of a f2.8.


Sigma and Tamron offer comparable quality at substantially less cost. I recommend the faster versions if available. You never know when you will want that extra stop.

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Dec 25, 2018 17:12:48   #
ggab Loc: ?
 
Crad1998 wrote:
I own a T3 i rebel and am seriously considering buying the Canon eos 80 d. I am looking for advice from people who own the 80 and have made the switch from rebels. This will be my first camera upgrade.


I started with a T3i, I loved the camera. Eventually I sold it to my brother in law along with some low end lenses.
I wanted to do more sports/action photography so I bought a used 7D.
Eventually my interests moved to birding where I needed/wanted a better AF System and bought a 7D MkII.

My question, what do you want to do that the T3i can't or is this a Gas Attack?

Merry Christmas everyone.
George

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Dec 25, 2018 17:18:46   #
ggab Loc: ?
 
amfoto1 wrote:
The T3i (600D) was a good camera in it's day.

But the 80D is a big step up in virtually every possible way!

First, you are going from a Rebel series to Canon mid-grade DSLR, which means a bigger, brighter viewfinder using a true pentaprism (versus a penta-mirror in the Rebel). You also will get a more rigid metal chassis and added sealing for weather resistance in the 80D. The 80D also has a higher specification shutter... with a faster top speed and flash sync, as well as rating for longer life expectancy. 80D also can shoot continuously at 7 frame per second (compared to 4 fps in T3i).

While both cameras are APS-C format (meaning, in part, that you can use any EF-S lenses you might have on both), the 80D is 24MP... or 33% higher resolution than the 18MP T3i. In addition to the newer sensor providing greater dynamic range and color you will also will find it more usable at higher ISOs... probably at least one stop's worth. Even with more resolution and faster frame rate, thanks to using the larger LP-E6N battery and greater power efficiency, you'll get about twice as many shots per battery charge with the 80D.

The 80D also introduced the 45-point AF system that Canon has been using in a number of cameras. First seen on the 80D, it's now also used in 6D Mark II, 77D and T7i. (In 80D and 6DII it has Micro Focus Adjustment feature, too... that's not provided in T7i or 77D). Your T3i has a pretty basic, but workable 9-point AF system, with one higher performance "cross type" point at the center, good to around -0.5 or -1 EV light levels and "f/5.6 limited". All 45 of the 80D's AF points are cross type, it's able to focus down to -3EV light levels (approx. moonlight) and is "f/8 capable" at up to 27 SF points. This last means that you can use a 1.4X teleconverter on an f/5.6 lens or a 2X on an f/4 lens. On T3i those lens & teleconverter combos would be unable to autofocus.

80D also has Dual Pixel AF in Live View (which was first intro'd on 70D and some form of which is now in almost all Canon interchangeable lens cameras). This is MUCH faster and more useful than the contrast detection AF your T3i uses.

There's a lot more.... Following gives you more detailed info about the 80D's AF system:

https://www.usa.canon.com/internet/portal/us/home/learn/education/topics/article/2018/July/Whats-New-45-point-AF-on-the-Canon-EOS-80D/Whats-New-45-point-AF-on-the-Canon-EOS-80D

The following are two very helpful, detailed reviews of all aspects of the 80D:

https://www.the-digital-picture.com/Reviews/Canon-EOS-80D.aspx
https://www.imaging-resource.com/PRODS/canon-80d/canon-80dA.HTM

And the following go into more detail comparing the 80D versus the T3i:

https://www.imaging-resource.com/cameras/canon/t3i/vs/canon/80d/
https://www.apotelyt.com/compare-camera/canon-t3i-vs-canon-80d
https://cameradecision.com/compare/Canon-EOS-600D-vs-Canon-EOS-80D

Finally, if you don't already have the lens, I'd highly recommend getting the 80D in kit with the EF-S 18-135mm IS USM lens, which is usually the lens that's bundled with the camera. This is the latest and best of Canon's three 18-135s. It uses the new "Nano USM" focus drive, which according to Canon is just as quiet as STM focus drive, but 2X to 4X faster. It's a better all-around lens. It's also the only lens that can optionally be fitted with Canon's PZ-E1 Power Zoom module, which might be a nice accessory if you intend to shoot video. The EF-S 18-135mm IS USM normally sells for $600 new. When bought in kit with the 80D, you can get it for a lot less. (currently the lens in kit is half price: 80D body only is $999... or in kit with the 18-135mm it's $1299.)

The "better" standard zoom lenses are the EF-S 17-55mm f/2.8 IS USM (for it's larger aperture) or the EF-S 15-85mm IS USM (for it's wider angle capabilities). Neither is normally offered in kit with the camera, though, so they both end up more expensive.

P.S. I don't have either T3i or 80D personally. I have used various Canon with the same AF system as T3i and took about a quarter million shots over the course of five years with a pair of 7D that use the same 18MP sensor as T3i. I now mostly shoot with 7D Mark II, which are a step up from 80D in some respects (more sophisticated AF system, additional durability/sealing, faster frame rate), but might even be considered a step down in others (20MP instead of 24MP, fewer f/8 capable AF points).
The T3i (600D) was a good camera in it's day. br ... (show quote)


"80D also can shoot continuously at 7 frame per second (compared to 4 fps in T3i)"
Assuming you don't shoot through "live View".

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Dec 25, 2018 20:49:45   #
Crad1998
 
I am still trying to find my photography voice. I have done some low light shooting at my church, done a couple of portrait shoots for classes I am taking and even photographed a woman giving birth. I need a camera that is better in low light and gives me better auto focus .

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Dec 25, 2018 22:44:18   #
ggab Loc: ?
 
Crad1998 wrote:
I am still trying to find my photography voice. I have done some low light shooting at my church, done a couple of portrait shoots for classes I am taking and even photographed a woman giving birth. I need a camera that is better in low light and gives me better auto focus .


Look to a 6D or 6D Mark II. Both will do much better in low light.
What requires better auto focus?
This is probably a function of the lenses you have.
What lenses are you using?

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