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Jun 23, 2018 08:05:33   #
ToBoldlyGo Loc: London U.K.
 
hipines wrote:
I've been using crop-sensor DSLRs (Nikon D-40x and D-7000) since switching from film cameras a number of years ago. I'm now looking to get a full-frame camera. I'm not a big tech guy, so I don't need all the latest bells & whistles or super-high MP sensors such as on the Canon 5D S and Nikon D850. I also don't shoot video. I mainly shoot landscape and nature subjects. I'd like something that's fairly user-friendly but is still capable of producing excellent results (assuming the user is competent!). Since I'll need new full-frame lenses I don't need to stick with Nikon. Some of the cameras I've looked at are Canon 5D Mk III and IV and Nikon D810. I'm also considering the Canon 6D Mk II or Nikon D750 to save weight and money. I've read tons of reviews, but now I'd like to hear from real people who have been using their cameras and lenses for awhile.

What camera and lenses do you prefer for general/landscape/nature photography?

Can you get as good quality images from the smaller cameras (6D MKII & D750) as the larger ones?

I'd like to be able to produce sharp prints up to 20 x 30.

Sorry for such a long post - thanks in advance for any ideas or suggestions you can provide.
I've been using crop-sensor DSLRs (Nikon D-40x and... (show quote)


The first questions asked here should be why are you looking to upgrade, and why do you want to go full frame? What is your current gear not doing that makes you want to change?

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Jun 23, 2018 08:20:38   #
jerryc41 Loc: Catskill Mts of NY
 
hipines wrote:
I've been using crop-sensor DSLRs (Nikon D-40x and D-7000) since switching from film cameras a number of years ago. I'm now looking to get a full-frame camera. I'm not a big tech guy, so I don't need all the latest bells & whistles or super-high MP sensors such as on the Canon 5D S and Nikon D850. I also don't shoot video. I mainly shoot landscape and nature subjects. I'd like something that's fairly user-friendly but is still capable of producing excellent results (assuming the user is competent!). Since I'll need new full-frame lenses I don't need to stick with Nikon. Some of the cameras I've looked at are Canon 5D Mk III and IV and Nikon D810. I'm also considering the Canon 6D Mk II or Nikon D750 to save weight and money. I've read tons of reviews, but now I'd like to hear from real people who have been using their cameras and lenses for awhile.

What camera and lenses do you prefer for general/landscape/nature photography?

Can you get as good quality images from the smaller cameras (6D MKII & D750) as the larger ones?

I'd like to be able to produce sharp prints up to 20 x 30.

Sorry for such a long post - thanks in advance for any ideas or suggestions you can provide.
I've been using crop-sensor DSLRs (Nikon D-40x and... (show quote)


I like my D750 and 28-300mm lens.

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Jun 23, 2018 08:29:42   #
camerapapi Loc: Miami, Fl.
 
I am going to assume that you have a good assortment of lenses for use with "cropped cameras." I am sure you know that you are heading toward a big investment buying a "full frame" camera and lenses to fit it.
I own a D7000 and it keeps on giving me the files I want. It is great for landscapes, action and wildlife photography. Excellent to make portraits too. Low light performance is very good, at least it has served me well for that.
I have a D610 and the D7000 and I find that I use more the D7000.

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Jun 23, 2018 09:02:10   #
aflundi Loc: Albuquerque, NM
 
hipines wrote:
... Can you get as good quality images from the smaller cameras (6D MKII & D750) as the larger ones? ...

Either one would be a good body, and you'd likely be happy with either.

But here's another idea to consider. Right now you can find used D800's with little use and in almost new condition for less than $1000.

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Jun 23, 2018 09:04:00   #
gwilliams6
 
Sony fullframe mirrorless for clear advantages that NO DSLR can physically ever have. Check these ones out.

https://www.sony.com/electronics/interchangeable-lens-cameras/ilce-7m3-body-kit
https://www.sony.com/electronics/interchangeable-lens-cameras/ilce-7rm3

This A7III is now the world's #1 selling fullframe camera, taking that crown from the Nikon D850. Sony is also now the world's #1 seller of all fullframe cameras ,with all their A9 and A7 series fullframe cameras. Cheers

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Jun 23, 2018 09:17:46   #
CO
 
gwilliams6 wrote:
Sony fullframe mirrorless for clear advantages that NO DSLR can physically ever have. Check these ones out.

https://www.sony.com/electronics/interchangeable-lens-cameras/ilce-7m3-body-kit
https://www.sony.com/electronics/interchangeable-lens-cameras/ilce-7rm3

This A7III is now the world's #1 selling fullframe camera, taking that crown from the Nikon D850. Sony is also now the world's #1 seller of all fullframe cameras ,with all their A9 and A7 series fullframe cameras. Cheers


The contrast detection autofocus on mirrorless cameras, even the dual pixel contrast detection type, still can't match the speed and reliability of phase detection autofocus used in DSLR cameras. Sports photography is dominated by Canon and Nikon DSLR cameras.

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Jun 23, 2018 09:27:47   #
gwilliams6
 
CO wrote:
The contrast detection autofocus on mirrorless cameras, even the dual pixel contrast detection type, still can't match the speed and reliability of phase detection autofocus used in DSLR cameras. Sports photography is dominated by Canon and Nikon DSLR cameras.


Wrong buddy. The Sony A7III and A9 have 695 points of phase detection across 93% of the frame plus 435 points of contrast detection. NO DSLR even comes close . These top Sonys now can acquire ,focus and shoot at up to 20fps (A9) and 10fps (A7III and A7RIII) with full AF-C and Eye-AF. And they can make 60 exposure calculations and 60 autofocus calculations per second, again NO DSLR even comes close. Get up to date with your info instead of spreading old myths.

Top Sports, Wildlife and Photojournalist pros, like myself are switching more and more everyday to fullframe mirrorless and all its advantages. I was a Canon and Nikon pro shooter for 40 years, yes 40 and switched to pro Sony fullframe mirrorless back in Jan. 2017 and have never looked back. Times are changing.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JtOIz_LT9SM&t=34s
https://petapixel.com/2018/01/23/photographer-david-burnett-switches-sony-40-years-shooting-canon/
https://petapixel.com/2017/05/09/shooting-kentucky-derby-20fps-sony-a9/
https://alphauniverse.com/stories/sony-a9-s-features-unmatched-at-u-s--open/
https://alphauniverse.com/stories/sports-pro-s-gear-for-the-winter-games-in-south-korea/ https://alphasports.pro/
https://www.bhphotovideo.com/explora/photography/features/why-i-switched-canon-sony-colby-brown
https://www.bhphotovideo.com/explora/photography/features/why-i-switched-nikon-sony-matt-kloskowski
https://alphauniverse.com/artisans/
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rMP4vJr6cGk
http://sonyaddict.com/2018/03/31/luke-massey-swapped-the-canon-eos-1d-x-mark-ii-for-the-sony-a9/ Swapping a Canon EOS 1D X Mark II for a Sony A9 - We speak to wildlife photographer Luke Massey
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G1IyIE2gAL4&t=169s

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Jun 23, 2018 09:30:37   #
berchman Loc: South Central PA
 
CO wrote:
The contrast detection autofocus on mirrorless cameras, even the dual pixel contrast detection type, still can't match the speed and reliability of phase detection autofocus used in DSLR cameras. Sports photography is dominated by Canon and Nikon DSLR cameras.


The Fuji X-T2 mirrorless camera has 91 phase detection points. Its autofocus performance for sports is excellent. http://www.fujifilm.com/products/digital_cameras/x/fujifilm_x_t2/features/page_02.html

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Jun 23, 2018 09:42:51   #
ToBoldlyGo Loc: London U.K.
 
gwilliams6 wrote:
Sony fullframe mirrorless for clear advantages that NO DSLR can physically ever have. Check these ones out.

https://www.sony.com/electronics/interchangeable-lens-cameras/ilce-7m3-body-kit
https://www.sony.com/electronics/interchangeable-lens-cameras/ilce-7rm3

This A7III is now the world's #1 selling fullframe camera, taking that crown from the Nikon D850. Sony is also now the world's #1 seller of all fullframe cameras ,with all their A9 and A7 series fullframe cameras. Cheers


This is just a sales pitch.

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Jun 23, 2018 09:51:01   #
wds0410 Loc: Nunya
 
hipines wrote:
I've been using crop-sensor DSLRs (Nikon D-40x and D-7000) since switching from film cameras a number of years ago. I'm now looking to get a full-frame camera. I'm not a big tech guy, so I don't need all the latest bells & whistles or super-high MP sensors such as on the Canon 5D S and Nikon D850. I also don't shoot video. I mainly shoot landscape and nature subjects. I'd like something that's fairly user-friendly but is still capable of producing excellent results (assuming the user is competent!). Since I'll need new full-frame lenses I don't need to stick with Nikon. Some of the cameras I've looked at are Canon 5D Mk III and IV and Nikon D810. I'm also considering the Canon 6D Mk II or Nikon D750 to save weight and money. I've read tons of reviews, but now I'd like to hear from real people who have been using their cameras and lenses for awhile.

What camera and lenses do you prefer for general/landscape/nature photography?

Can you get as good quality images from the smaller cameras (6D MKII & D750) as the larger ones?

I'd like to be able to produce sharp prints up to 20 x 30.

Sorry for such a long post - thanks in advance for any ideas or suggestions you can provide.
I've been using crop-sensor DSLRs (Nikon D-40x and... (show quote)


I've been a Canon user for 40 years now and I upgraded to the Canon 6DM2 about 6 months ago and I am generally happy with the camera and lenses. Pretty sure you won't have a problem with 20x30 prints with the 26 MB sensor size. The touch screen, autofocus, and articulating screen work fine. Dynamic range is a bit of problem but nothing that can be solved in post processing. Having said all of that I have noticed some youtube landscape photographers that I follow are switching to the high end Sony (A7R3?- the one that costs around $3K). There is a general evolution going on towards full frame mirrorless cameras. Pretty sure both Nikon and Canon are working on their own versions because Sony is taking a bunch of market share.

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Jun 23, 2018 09:59:08   #
Architect1776 Loc: In my mind
 
gwilliams6 wrote:
Wrong buddy. The Sony A7III and A9 have 695 points of phase detection across 93% of the frame plus 435 points of contrast detection. NO DSLR even comes close . These top Sonys now can acquire ,focus and shoot at up to 20fps (A9) and 10fps (A7III and A7RIII) with full AF-C and Eye-AF. And they can make 60 exposure calculations and 60 autofocus calculations per second, again NO DSLR even comes close. Get up to date with your info instead of spreading old myths.

Top Sports, Wildlife and Photojournalist pros, like myself are switching more and more everyday to fullframe mirrorless and all its advantages. I was a Canon and Nikon pro shooter for 40 years, yes 40 and switched to pro Sony fullframe mirrorless back in Jan. 2017 and have never looked back. Times are changing.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JtOIz_LT9SM&t=34s
https://petapixel.com/2018/01/23/photographer-david-burnett-switches-sony-40-years-shooting-canon/
https://petapixel.com/2017/05/09/shooting-kentucky-derby-20fps-sony-a9/
https://alphauniverse.com/stories/sony-a9-s-features-unmatched-at-u-s--open/
https://alphauniverse.com/stories/sports-pro-s-gear-for-the-winter-games-in-south-korea/ https://alphasports.pro/
https://www.bhphotovideo.com/explora/photography/features/why-i-switched-canon-sony-colby-brown
https://www.bhphotovideo.com/explora/photography/features/why-i-switched-nikon-sony-matt-kloskowski
https://alphauniverse.com/artisans/
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rMP4vJr6cGk
http://sonyaddict.com/2018/03/31/luke-massey-swapped-the-canon-eos-1d-x-mark-ii-for-the-sony-a9/ Swapping a Canon EOS 1D X Mark II for a Sony A9 - We speak to wildlife photographer Luke Massey
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G1IyIE2gAL4&t=169s
Wrong buddy. The Sony A7III and A9 have 695 points... (show quote)


Wow.

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Jun 23, 2018 10:27:15   #
jccash Loc: Longwood, Florida
 
gwilliams6 wrote:
Wrong buddy. The Sony A7III and A9 have 695 points of phase detection across 93% of the frame plus 435 points of contrast detection. NO DSLR even comes close . These top Sonys now can acquire ,focus and shoot at up to 20fps (A9) and 10fps (A7III and A7RIII) with full AF-C and Eye-AF. And they can make 60 exposure calculations and 60 autofocus calculations per second, again NO DSLR even comes close. Get up to date with your info instead of spreading old myths.

Top Sports, Wildlife and Photojournalist pros, like myself are switching more and more everyday to fullframe mirrorless and all its advantages. I was a Canon and Nikon pro shooter for 40 years, yes 40 and switched to pro Sony fullframe mirrorless back in Jan. 2017 and have never looked back. Times are changing.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JtOIz_LT9SM&t=34s
https://petapixel.com/2018/01/23/photographer-david-burnett-switches-sony-40-years-shooting-canon/
https://petapixel.com/2017/05/09/shooting-kentucky-derby-20fps-sony-a9/
https://alphauniverse.com/stories/sony-a9-s-features-unmatched-at-u-s--open/
https://alphauniverse.com/stories/sports-pro-s-gear-for-the-winter-games-in-south-korea/ https://alphasports.pro/
https://www.bhphotovideo.com/explora/photography/features/why-i-switched-canon-sony-colby-brown
https://www.bhphotovideo.com/explora/photography/features/why-i-switched-nikon-sony-matt-kloskowski
https://alphauniverse.com/artisans/
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rMP4vJr6cGk
http://sonyaddict.com/2018/03/31/luke-massey-swapped-the-canon-eos-1d-x-mark-ii-for-the-sony-a9/ Swapping a Canon EOS 1D X Mark II for a Sony A9 - We speak to wildlife photographer Luke Massey
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G1IyIE2gAL4&t=169s
Wrong buddy. The Sony A7III and A9 have 695 points... (show quote)


Very goo post. Thank you

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Jun 23, 2018 10:35:12   #
gwilliams6
 
jccash wrote:
Very goo post. Thank you


You are welcome. The truth always wins out.

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Jun 23, 2018 10:38:33   #
gwilliams6
 
ToBoldlyGo wrote:
This is just a sales pitch.


Just supplying facts, no sales pitch. The OP should buy what suits their needs and budget. Cheers

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Jun 23, 2018 10:46:11   #
gwilliams6
 
wds0410 wrote:
I've been a Canon user for 40 years now and I upgraded to the Canon 6DM2 about 6 months ago and I am generally happy with the camera and lenses. Pretty sure you won't have a problem with 20x30 prints with the 26 MB sensor size. The touch screen, autofocus, and articulating screen work fine. Dynamic range is a bit of problem but nothing that can be solved in post processing. Having said all of that I have noticed some youtube landscape photographers that I follow are switching to the high end Sony (A7R3?- the one that costs around $3K). There is a general evolution going on towards full frame mirrorless cameras. Pretty sure both Nikon and Canon are working on their own versions because Sony is taking a bunch of market share.
I've been a Canon user for 40 years now and I upgr... (show quote)


You are correct,Nikon and Canon are spending millions developing their own fullframe pro-grade mirrorless cameras to answer Sony. Both makers will probably announce them this fall at Photokina, with models available sometime in 2019. Expect 36 megapixel mirrorless cameras from both Nikon and Canon, as they already have sensors that size in their lineups. I hope all makers succeed here, that will keep everyone innovating, including Sony. BTW Sony will probably announce another new camera, the A7SIII at Photokina also this fall.

Hey I was a loyal Nikon and Canon user for decades and made a host of award-winning shots with that gear. I just went to Sony for all the great features that mirrorless has over DSLRs, and for Sonys great image quality and low-light performance in stills and video. None of this means you cant still make great shots with DSLRs, of course you can and will. The Sonys just make my creative process easier and quicker, and with more options to give me an advantage over the pro competition. Buy what you love,need and what works for you and be happy. Cheers

FYI I own fullframe mirrorless A7RIII ,and A7III; along with APS-C mirrorless A6500. I use a mix of Sony and Sigma lenses. Cheers

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