olemikey Loc: 6 mile creek, Spacecoast Florida

I used to be a fan of Trump many years back (90's), but as I learned more about him and his methods over the next 18 years, I began to see what he was really about. Its all about him, and how he can separate everyone from their money, and make sure he ends up with it. He has completely scammed the folks who voted for him, tries to punish those that didn't, threatens our democracy (The Man who would be King), trashes our allies, kisses up to ruthless dictators (admires them - OMG), profits off of his position (at our expense) and fabricates untruths, re-writes history and lies constantly. His ghost writer (for that book) said that he is not even close to being a decent human being, and that most of the "good" about him was fabrication and a re-writing of the truth.

I never saw anyone "caged" by the Obama administration, would love to here some factual information on that one. Obama (publicly) at the very least, acted like a human being. I'm not defending Obama, but at least I was never embarrassed that he was our President.

Charlie'smom

That’s such an ignorant statement! American children aren’t kept in boxes!

Charlie'smom

Yes. There seem to many in that category.

Kmgw9v Loc: Miami, Florida

[quote=olemikey]I used to be a fan of Trump many years back (90's), but as I learned more about him and his methods over the next 18 years, I began to see what he was really about. Its all about him, and how he can separate everyone from their money, and make sure he ends up with it. He has completely scammed the folks who voted for him, tries to punish those that didn't, threatens our democracy (The Man who would be King), trashes our allies, kisses up to ruthless dictators (admires them - OMG), profits off of his position (at our expense) and fabricates untruths, re-writes history and lies constantly. His ghost writer (for that book) said that he is not even close to being a decent human being, and that most of the "good" about him was fabrication and a re-writing of the truth.

I never saw anyone "caged" by the Obama administration, would love to here some factual information on that one. Obama (publicly) at the very least, acted like a human being. I'm not defending Obama, but at least I was never embarrassed that he was our President.[/quote

Trump has never been a nice guy.

Blaster34 Loc: Florida Treasure Coast

Thanks KMG, not a problem....however I have to disagree, not through the 'Grace of God. My grandparents immigrated 'legally' from Scotland as so many millions of others did in the foundation of this country. I'm all for immigration, legal immigration, not the massive and destructive immigration we've seen the last 50 years when America decided to not enforce the laws. A country without borders is not a country at all. Now back to photography topics

Blaster34 Loc: Florida Treasure Coast

[quote=Kmgw9v][quote=olemikey]I used to be a fan of Trump many years back (90's), but as I learned more about him and his methods over the next 18 years, I began to see what he was really about. Its all about him, and how he can separate everyone from their money, and make sure he ends up with it. He has completely scammed the folks who voted for him, tries to punish those that didn't, threatens our democracy (The Man who would be King), trashes our allies, kisses up to ruthless dictators (admires them - OMG), profits off of his position (at our expense) and fabricates untruths, re-writes history and lies constantly. His ghost writer (for that book) said that he is not even close to being a decent human being, and that most of the "good" about him was fabrication and a re-writing of the truth.

I never saw anyone "caged" by the Obama administration, would love to here some factual information on that one. Obama (publicly) at the very least, acted like a human being. I'm not defending Obama, but at least I was never embarrassed that he was our President.[/quote

Trump has never been a nice guy.[/quote]


I really don't want a 'Nice Guy' as President, I want a president who will uphold/enforce the Constitution and American laws. However, (NYT's) Obama vastly expanded the detention of immigrant families, opening new facilities along the border where families and young children were held for long periods while they awaited a chance to have their cases processed. That's the way is should be implemented however not for long periods of time....cases adjudicated within a day or two at most.

frankraney Loc: Clovis, Ca.

It is law. It is against the law to come here illegally. The problem is that President Trump trying to enforce the law and there's reasons for that, and everyone else wants to use their heart there is no room for heart in law you either enforce the law or you change it. Take any other crime parents are arrested for a crime that have children those children that go into foster care while the parents go through the process of the trial this is the same thing. We cannot keep letting illegals come here and stay if we do we will become like China and Japan way overpopulated. Laws are made to hopefully control, stop, deter, and punish crime. So way in the non-enforcement has done his not deterred it.

Now what I think should happen is they should be fingerprinted their children should be fingerprinted and then all sent back home that's what the law says, they should be deported. The second time should go as it is now they should go to trial and then be punished or whatever. We have a lot of laws set up that way for the punishment is incremental light the first time and then heavier and heavier. But this law isn't set up that way. That's the problem it's too vague and it's very precise in what it states, it's against the law and they are supposed to be deported. We do not want people just coming here illegally and staying here you do not want that if you do be ready for the consequences.

We have laws that employers are supposed to check for citizenship and proof and they don't do it sometimes because they want to get their job done, that has to stop also.

Even our governor has hired illegals and bragged about it because they're the best for the job he says. He should be arrested and put in jail, and the employee deported, but that won't happen.

gerdog

The original post did not claim that there was no need to enforce the border; it was a point being made that cruelty to children is NOT the way to do it. Trump is doing it in an effort to force democrats in Congress to give him anything he asks for. There has to be a better way. How much crying by the children and their parents is acceptable? By the way, for first time crossers, the crime is a misdemeanor, not a felony.

EdJ0307 Loc: out west someplace

And the "Native Hawaiians" are immigrants from other Pacific islands, i.e., Tahiti and the Marquesas Islands.

Blaster34 Loc: Florida Treasure Coast

gerdog

Interesting thing is that the peoples living south of the U.S. border originally likely migrated from north of the present day U.S., worked their way south generation by generation, and finally settled in their present countries. Their ancestors were here in the U.S. before the Europeans came. The Americas was their country first.

Blaster34 Loc: Florida Treasure Coast

Sorry, there is NO RIGHT for anyone to enter this country, period...unless invited, legally. Illegals violated American law when crossing the border.

gerdog

What most people don't realize is that many of these people have NOT broken the law. They did not sneak across the border in the middle of the night. They lined up at the border gates asking for asylum, under a law that permits that. I have heard that only about 20% of such requests are granted, but it IS a legal process. The asylum seekers and the true illegal crossers have been lumped into the same category. In any case, there is a better way than by separating young children from their parents. I watched the U.S. Attorney General on TV this morning showing his disdain for the asylum law, accusing these people of trying to unfairly take advantage of this law. However, you can bet that the politicians all take advantage of every loophole their accountants can take advantage of in the tax law. Now that knowledge of the asylum seeker law has spread throughout Central America and people are trying to avail themselves of it, the administration has resorted to blatant cruelty to try to thwart THE LAW.

Charlie'smom

You can’t tell me that if the situation was reversed there’s not one parent who wouldn’t try to leave. And if you did tell me you wouldn’t try to protect your child(ren) by seeking asylum, I would truthfully call you either a liar or a poor excuse for a parent.

Blaster34 Loc: Florida Treasure Coast

Blatant Cruelty, Obama did the same thing except he kept families together for long, long periods of time, IN DETENTION....At least now they're being adjudicated as fast as possible, a few days in most cases.

Immigration laws will never get fixed as long as politicians can get political advantages and benefits from maintaining the status quo...as a famous political operative once said; "You never let a serious crisis go to waste" and politicians and the MSM prefer to maintain this crisis rather than fix it.