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May 26, 2018 16:54:06   #
GeorgeH Loc: Jonesboro, GA
 
It seems that the US has embraced Putin's revival of vile Soviet practices, as he separates children from their parents. Surely our immigrations policies can be more humane! Mr Trump's administration is heartless and cruel, a reflection of Mr Trump himself. See Masha Gessen's column in The New Yorker magazine: https://www.newyorker.com/news/our-columnists/taking-children-from-their-parents-is-a-form-of-state-terror Ms Gessen knows of what she writes; she recently emigrated to the U S from Putin's Russia. Mr Trump seems to have removed restraints from ICE in its actions against immigrants before their appeals are adjudicated.

Surely the United States is better than this! Perhaps we should sandblast Emma Lazarus' words from the Statue of Liberty....

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May 26, 2018 17:06:57   #
dljen Loc: Central PA
 
This is a horrible policy, it's not what America stands for.

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May 26, 2018 17:20:10   #
EyeSawYou
 
GeorgeH wrote:
It seems that the US has embraced Putin's revival of vile Soviet practices, as he separates children from their parents. Surely our immigrations policies can be more humane! Mr Trump's administration is heartless and cruel, a reflection of Mr Trump himself. See Masha Gessen's column in The New Yorker magazine: https://www.newyorker.com/news/our-columnists/taking-children-from-their-parents-is-a-form-of-state-terror Ms Gessen knows of what she writes; she recently emigrated to the U S from Putin's Russia. Mr Trump seems to have removed restraints from ICE in its actions against immigrants before their appeals are adjudicated.

Surely the United States is better than this! Perhaps we should sandblast Emma Lazarus' words from the Statue of Liberty....
It seems that the US has embraced Putin's revival ... (show quote)


I guess Obama has embraced Putin's revival of vile Soviet practices, as he separates children from their parents as well. So Obama is heartless as well I guess, neither President should have made this attempt.

The Obama administration tried something similar to deter immigrant families from coming to the U.S. In August 2014 the government began a policy of not issuing bonds to families with the stated aim of forcing them to remain in detention to discourage future immigrant families from coming to the U.S.

In 2015 a federal district court in Washington D.C. ruled the no-bond policy unconstitutional, in part for lacking any evidentiary correlation to preventing new arrivals and because it unjustifiably denied the families their liberty in order to attempt to change the behaviors of other people.

http://thehill.com/opinion/immigration/366797-separating-immigrant-families-is-unconstitutional?amp

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May 26, 2018 18:27:23   #
GeorgeH Loc: Jonesboro, GA
 
EyeSawYou wrote:
I guess Obama has embraced Putin's revival of vile Soviet practices, as he separates children from their parents as well. So Obama is heartless as well I guess, neither President should have made this attempt.

The Obama administration tried something similar to deter immigrant families from coming to the U.S. In August 2014 the government began a policy of not issuing bonds to families with the stated aim of forcing them to remain in detention to discourage future immigrant families from coming to the U.S.

In 2015 a federal district court in Washington D.C. ruled the no-bond policy unconstitutional, in part for lacking any evidentiary correlation to preventing new arrivals and because it unjustifiably denied the families their liberty in order to attempt to change the behaviors of other people.

http://thehill.com/opinion/immigration/366797-separating-immigrant-families-is-unconstitutional?amp
I guess Obama has embraced Putin's revival of vile... (show quote)


Thank you for the link to The Hill http://thehill.com/opinion/immigration/366797-separating-immigrant-families-is-unconstitutional?amp Do note that Obama's regretable effort was ruled unconstitutional; perhaps Mr Trump should have done just a little research before his wretched resurrection of this vile policy. I wonder how any Hogger can possible support this practice. And, BTW, just because President Obama tried this hardly justifies Mr Trump trying it again. And where are the perhaps 1500 children separated from their parents, placed with foster parents thousands of miles away from their detained parents, who seem to have been lost??

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May 26, 2018 18:49:53   #
EyeSawYou
 
GeorgeH wrote:
Thank you for the link to The Hill http://thehill.com/opinion/immigration/366797-separating-immigrant-families-is-unconstitutional?amp Do note that Obama's regretable effort was ruled unconstitutional; perhaps Mr Trump should have done just a little research before his wretched resurrection of this vile policy. I wonder how any Hogger can possible support this practice. And, BTW, just because President Obama tried this hardly justifies Mr Trump trying it again. And where are the perhaps 1500 children separated from their parents, placed with foster parents thousands of miles away from their detained parents, who seem to have been lost??
Thank you for the link to The Hill http://thehill... (show quote)


Where did I say or imply it was justifiable for either one? I did the exact opposite of what you implied I said.

Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) Tweeted:
Put pressure on the Democrats to end the horrible law that separates children from there parents once they cross the Border into the U.S. Catch and Release, Lottery and Chain must also go with it and we MUST continue building the WALL! DEMOCRATS ARE PROTECTING MS-13 THUGS. https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1000375761604370434?s=17

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May 26, 2018 18:59:09   #
Frank T Loc: New York, NY
 
This policy is dispicable and only a short leap from loading people on boxcars and taking them to concentration camps
Trumps March to fascism continues

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May 26, 2018 19:13:14   #
EyeSawYou
 
Frank T wrote:
This policy is dispicable and only a short leap from loading people on boxcars and taking them to concentration camps
Trumps March to fascism continues


This is fascism? Lol I guess Obama is right up there with Trump than.

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May 26, 2018 19:16:47   #
boberic Loc: Quiet Corner, Connecticut. Ex long Islander
 
The laz
GeorgeH wrote:
It seems that the US has embraced Putin's revival of vile Soviet practices, as he separates children from their parents. Surely our immigrations policies can be more humane! Mr Trump's administration is heartless and cruel, a reflection of Mr Trump himself. See Masha Gessen's column in The New Yorker magazine: https://www.newyorker.com/news/our-columnists/taking-children-from-their-parents-is-a-form-of-state-terror Ms Gessen knows of what she writes; she recently emigrated to the U S from Putin's Russia. Mr Trump seems to have removed restraints from ICE in its actions against immigrants before their appeals are adjudicated.

Surely the United States is better than this! Perhaps we should sandblast Emma Lazarus' words from the Statue of Liberty....
It seems that the US has embraced Putin's revival ... (show quote)
The lazarus statement is not law' It's up to congress to pass laws regarding the DACA situation. but congress didnt do their job, because they di not want to give Trump a victory. Should law breakers be separated from their children. Many are when their parents go to jail. Illegal aliens are law breakers

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May 26, 2018 19:22:21   #
SharpShooter Loc: NorCal
 
EyeSawYou wrote:
Where did I say or imply it was justifiable for either one? I did the exact opposite of what you implied I said.

Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) Tweeted:
Put pressure on the Democrats to end the horrible law that separates children from there parents once they cross the Border into the U.S. Catch and Release, Lottery and Chain must also go with it and we MUST continue building the WALL! DEMOCRATS ARE PROTECTING MS-13 THUGS. https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1000375761604370434?s=17
Where did I say or imply it was justifiable for ei... (show quote)


Your pretty stupid.
What PUTOS says is code for, “I keep attaching everything the Dems want to my BUILD THE WALL bills and they keep turning it down, they just don’t want to help Dreamers and Immigrants.
They aren’t humane, because if they just build my wall, I’ll give them everything they want.
PUTOS is used to strong-arming small businesses and private citizens, he calls it the “Art of the Deal”, but it doesn’t work with government.
Hopefully he won’t be in office much longer!!!!! LoL
SS

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May 26, 2018 20:05:12   #
Blurryeyed Loc: NC Mountains.
 
Frank T wrote:
This policy is dispicable and only a short leap from loading people on boxcars and taking them to concentration camps
Trumps March to fascism continues


Don't be ridiculous Frank, you comments are absurd. Why don't you pressure your politicians to work out immigration reform that secures the border and corrects parts of the law that are causing this, the current laws were not written to empty Central America into the US but that is what is going on, we are getting more refugees than we can handle and once released into our country they are not showing up to their asylum hearings... Fix the problem, open borders are not the answer.

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May 26, 2018 20:05:47   #
thom w Loc: San Jose, CA
 
boberic wrote:
The laz The lazarus statement is not law' It's up to congress to pass laws regarding the DACA situation. but congress didnt do their job, because they di not want to give Trump a victory. Should law breakers be separated from their children. Many are when their parents go to jail. Illegal aliens are law breakers


When they walk up to the border, and declare themselves refugees, what law are you claiming they are breaking?

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May 26, 2018 20:19:14   #
EyeSawYou
 
SharpShooter wrote:
Your pretty stupid.
What PUTOS says is code for, “I keep attaching everything the Dems want to my BUILD THE WALL bills and they keep turning it down, they just don’t want to help Dreamers and Immigrants.
They aren’t humane, because if they just build my wall, I’ll give them everything they want.
PUTOS is used to strong-arming small businesses and private citizens, he calls it the “Art of the Deal”, but it doesn’t work with government.
Hopefully he won’t be in office much longer!!!!! LoL
SS
Your pretty stupid. br What PUTOS says is code fo... (show quote)


You are an idiot lol, you just cant get over the fact that Obama attempted the same damn policy you moron. Lol

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May 26, 2018 20:44:05   #
SharpShooter Loc: NorCal
 
EyeSawYou wrote:
You are an idiot lol, you just cant get over the fact that Obama attempted the same damn policy you moron. Lol


If I’m a moron, then PUTOS must have gotten a botched lobotomy!
IF Obama tried it and it was found unconstitutional, then WHY in the world would go Dumb Squat Tramp do the same thing???
Is he TOO DUMB to keep from repeating bad history?
Well guess what, HE’S the one that’s having to explain loosing kids, NOT Obama!!!
It just makes him look bad and stupid, but he seems immune to looking stupid!!! LoL
SS

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May 26, 2018 20:52:16   #
SharpShooter Loc: NorCal
 
boberic wrote:
The laz The lazarus statement is not law' It's up to congress to pass laws regarding the DACA situation. but congress didnt do their job, because they di not want to give Trump a victory. Should law breakers be separated from their children. Many are when their parents go to jail. Illegal aliens are law breakers


There was a time in this country when the nuclear family was respected and even held with esteem.
Even prisoners can get conjugal visits, it’s sad that our current president sees families having so little value to the point of using them against themselves like the communist countries do and even referring to them as animals.
It’s a sad day that Americans are no longer capable of making a decision that is no longer humane.
SS

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May 26, 2018 20:54:06   #
GeorgeH Loc: Jonesboro, GA
 
SharpShooter wrote:
If I’m a moron, then PUTOS must have gotten a botched lobotomy!
IF Obama tried it and it was found unconstitutional, then WHY in the world would go Dumb Squat Tramp do the same thing???
Is he TOO DUMB to keep from repeating bad history?
Well guess what, HE’S the one that’s having to explain loosing kids, NOT Obama!!!
It just makes him look bad and stupid, but he seems immune to looking stupid!!! LoL
SS


Well, Mr Trump is bad and stupid! And in the classic definition of insanity Mr Trump seems to think that doing the same thing over and over and over and expecting a different outcome is a reasonable course of action BTW, it would be nice if certain Hoggers stopped trying to blame President Obama for Mr Trump's depredations.

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