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May 6, 2018 12:20:28   #
Fkaufman3 Loc: Florida, LA ie lower Alabama
 
Anyone think upgrading from 6d to 6d mark 2 canon is worth the money, I have the 6d and want to keep nd add mark. Any thoughts

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May 6, 2018 12:33:12   #
CHG_CANON Loc: the Windy City
 
What are your expected results of such a change? If you were coming from a much older and / or crop-sensor model, you'd see a much more tangible improvement in image quality and camera capabilities. But, unless a 6DII adds something specific that is holding you back from success now when using the original 6D, you'll really only have a newer camera and less spending money.

Consider the lens(es), or flash, or processing software, or computer upgrades that could be better uses of the same outlay of funds.

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May 6, 2018 13:11:21   #
illininitt
 
Sell the other camera....buy a Canon T7I and take the extra $$ and visit the Mighty 5 in Utah!

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May 7, 2018 07:08:37   #
mwsilvers Loc: Central New Jersey
 
Fkaufman3 wrote:
Anyone think upgrading from 6d to 6d mark 2 canon is worth the money, I have the 6d and want to keep nd add mark. Any thoughts


I agree with CHG_CANON. What are you hoping the 6D Mark II will do for you that the 6D doesn't. Keep in mind that its 45 Focus points are pretty much centered in the middle and are not spread out across the frame so you will still have to focus and recompose many shots. In addition the dynamic range of the 6D Matk II really isn't much different than the 6D and in some respects not quite as good. It isn't that it's a bad camera, it's just not as good as most people were hoping for after the long wait and at that price point.

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May 7, 2018 09:37:10   #
jackm1943 Loc: Omaha, Nebraska
 
Fkaufman3 wrote:
Anyone think upgrading from 6d to 6d mark 2 canon is worth the money, I have the 6d and want to keep nd add mark. Any thoughts

OMG Yes! I did exactly that and have no regrets whatsoever. The articulated touchscreen by itself was worth it for me. Also, larger sensor, quite a bit faster continuous shooting, and lots of other improvements. I have found that it is just as good at high ISO's as the older 6D. Go for it!

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May 7, 2018 10:12:22   #
clickety
 
Fkaufman3 wrote:
Anyone think upgrading from 6d to 6d mark 2 canon is worth the money, I have the 6d and want to keep nd add mark. Any thoughts


I traded a 6D for the 6D MKII solely to get the articulated screen and it's great. I didn't compare each spec but am very pleased with the images.

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May 7, 2018 10:14:37   #
camerapapi Loc: Miami, Fl.
 
My cameras are old. I only think of updating when I need a feature or features not present in my present cameras.
I know for sure a new camera is not going to make me a better photographer.

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May 7, 2018 10:24:46   #
Jimmy T Loc: Virginia
 
Jack, I agree with you about the articulated touchscreen and other improvements, except that I thought that the original Canon 6D had a full sized sensor?
jackm1943 wrote:
OMG Yes! I did exactly that and have no regrets whatsoever. The articulated touchscreen by itself was worth it for me. Also, larger sensor, quite a bit faster continuous shooting, and lots of other improvements. I have found that it is just as good at high ISO's as the older 6D. Go for it!

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May 7, 2018 10:34:31   #
BebuLamar
 
illininitt wrote:
Sell the other camera....buy a Canon T7I and take the extra $$ and visit the Mighty 5 in Utah!


New 6D is $1000 and new T7i is $700. Can the OP sell the used 6D for $700?

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May 7, 2018 11:27:31   #
mwsilvers Loc: Central New Jersey
 
Jimmy T wrote:
Jack, I agree with you about the articulated touchscreen and other improvements, except that I thought that the original Canon 6D had a full sized sensor?

By a larger sensor I think he really meant higher resolution. The older 6D had a 20 megapixel full frame sensor, the Canon 6D Mark II has a 26 mp FF sensor. The sensors themselves are both the same size.

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May 7, 2018 11:30:44   #
mwsilvers Loc: Central New Jersey
 
clickety wrote:
I traded a 6D for the 6D MKII solely to get the articulated screen and it's great. I didn't compare each spec but am very pleased with the images.


You spent $2,000 just to get an articulated touchscreen!?

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May 7, 2018 12:35:26   #
jackm1943 Loc: Omaha, Nebraska
 
mwsilvers wrote:
You spent $2,000 just to get an articulated touchscreen!?

Until you try an articulated touchscreen you have no idea how much more convenient that is. Plus, better live view focusing, better processor, faster continuous shooting, more pixels, more focus spots, etc, etc. For about $1800, got the camera and a Canon battery grip, minus the trade in value of the 6D. No regrets here.

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May 7, 2018 12:54:23   #
amfoto1 Loc: San Jose, Calif. USA
 
Both 6D models are full frame. The original is 20MP... the newer Mark II has been bumped up to 26MP.

The Mark II also got a much improved AF system. The original's is 11-point with only one higher performance "cross type" point at the center. The Mark II has the same system as was introduced on the 80D... 45-point with all points higher performance cross type. Both cameras are able to autofocus in very low light conditions... -3EV (approx. moonlight). But the original 6D's AF is f/5.6 limited.... cannot autofocus a lens/teleconverter combination than makes for effective f/8 max aperture (such as an f/5.6 lens with a 1.4X TC... or an f/4 lens with a 2X). The Mark II is f/8 capable at up to 27 of it's AF points (varies depending upon the lens). For example, the 6D Mark II can autofocus the Canon EF 100-400mm f/4.5-5.6L lens with a 1.4X teleconverter... while the original 6D cannot.

The only relatively minor complaint I've heard about the new camera's AF system is that it seems a bit concentrated toward the center of the image area. It's almost as if Canon simply used the 80D's system as is... didn't scale up the APS-C cameras system to better match the full frame format.... or maybe just didn't scale it up enough. But overall it's a much improves AF system.

6DII also got "Dual Pixel AF" in Live View... which is MUCH better performing than the contrast detection method of AF used in Live View on the older model. That goes hand in hand with the articulated Touchscreen LCD.

The 6D Mark II also has a newer, higher performance processor that allows it to shoot at up to 6.5 frames per second, compared to 4.5 fps with the original model. It's also a bit more power efficient, getting more shots per battery charge.

And the 6D Mark II has Anti-Flicker mode... Introduced on the 7D Mark II, this is very helpful getting more accurate exposures under fluorescent and similar lighting that rapidly fluctuate (60 hz cycle in N. America, 50 hz in some other parts of the world). When Anti-Flicker is enabled, the camera detects the cycling of the lighting and times the shutter release to coincide with the peak output. Where I used to see under-exposure issues in around half my images shot under FL or sodium vapor light, now using cameras with this feature I rarely see any.

There's more:

https://www.imaging-resource.com/cameras/canon/6d/vs/canon/6d-mark-ii/
https://www.digitalrev.com/article/6d-mark-ii-vs-mark-i
https://www.slrlounge.com/canon-6d-vs-6d-mark-ii-should-you-upgrade-to-the-6d-mark-ii/
https://petapixel.com/2018/02/21/canon-6d-vs-6d-mark-ii-real-life-noise-comparison/

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May 7, 2018 13:21:39   #
Selene03
 
BebuLamar wrote:
New 6D is $1000 and new T7i is $700. Can the OP sell the used 6D for $700?


Why would somebody who enjoys shooting a full frame 6D want to replace it with a T7i (a crop sensor camera that is in no way comparable to the quality of the 6d, imo)? I had a 6d, which was one of the best cameras I've owned. The biggest limitation for me was the limited AF system, which appears to be significantly improved on the 6D II. I upgraded to the 5d mk iv when it first came out and am very happy with the camera. I probably would be happy with the 6d II. I got the mk iv for the improved mpx, af system, etc., and haven't been disappointed. It never occurred to me that I wanted either a touch screen or a flip screen, but once using them (the touch screen on the mk iv, the flip screen on other cameras), I am glad to have them. A friend is using my 6d now, and it is still capable of producing excellent photos. I suspect the 6d II would make it slightly easier given the improvements in Af and the flip screen, not to mention the increased megapixels. There will be those who will encourage you to switch brands--that is your choice, but I can't imagine selling a 6d for a T7i (it is a good camera, to be sure, but not at all in the same category as a 6D, I might think of substituting it for my Sl2--and even then probably wouldn't, but that is the category of camera it is in).

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May 7, 2018 13:27:30   #
Selene03
 
Amfoto1 always has a good analysis of pros and cons. His information here is spot on.

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