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May 3, 2018 11:54:46   #
SpyderJan Loc: New Smyrna Beach. FL
 
jeep_daddy wrote:
When I shoot Hummingbirds, I set my camera at ISO400-640, f/5.6 or if my lens will do it f/4.0 and keep an eye on my shutter speed. I use aperture priority and adjust my ISO to keep my shutter speed up to at least 1/1600th in bright areas or full sun. If the bird is sitting I can make an adjustment to a lower ISO and maybe a shutter of 1/800th. You have to learn how to change your ISO fast without looking at your camera.

Don't bother shooting birds in shaded areas unless you have a camera mounted flash. Only focus on shooting those that are in full sun. If you find a location that has hummers that isn't in full sun, mount a flash on your camera. You can't completely freeze the wings at 1/200th with flash, but you will get some pretty nice pics with some motion blur on the wings. You may have to bring your ISO up quite a lot if you are shooting in shaded areas. Use a quality flash that has the option of using HSS (High Speed Sync) I was with a friend that bought a cheap flash and it would only flash at the cameras max sync speed and the batteries didn't last very long either.********************************************************************************************************************************
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Pg.2 Those are some great hummer shots Jeep.

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May 3, 2018 11:57:12   #
jeep_daddy Loc: Prescott AZ
 
SpyderJan wrote:
Pg.2 Those are some great hummer shots Jeep.


Thank you.

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May 3, 2018 12:40:36   #
robertjerl Loc: Corona, California
 
CaptainEd wrote:
How do you set your auto focus for hummers? I've found my 80D constantly picks something in front of the subject unless I use just the center spot.

AF generally picks the closest object except on the more advanced bodies where you can set it to hold on to a subject even through short intrusions.
I use center point focus 75% of the time. Sometimes I will focus on the feeder/flower in manual and just wait for the bird to enter the focus field. That is one of the old pre AF tricks, it takes a lot of waiting and missed shots when the bird is just outside the pre focus area. Some of my best BIF shots (Egret and Osprey) were done that way with a 6D. All the "experts" will tell you the 6D can't do BIF or action, but by using (first you have to know them) the pre AF tricks that worked for a long time you can do it.

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May 3, 2018 14:07:43   #
DanielB Loc: San Diego, Ca
 
1/60th is way to slow to freeze a humming birds wings. You would be lucky to get a clear shot at all at that speed. You can't correlate "FPS - frames per second or flaps per second" to shutter speed. Try ISO 800 in time value of at least 1/2000th and adjust aperture to the light available but try to stay in the f4-f5 range. You can adjust ISO down if light allows.
Say Cheese wrote:
Humming birds wings flap around 50 FPS. I would think 1/60th of a second would stop them. Use shutter priority and see what you get. Experiment. The make of camera does not matters. Shutter speed does.

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May 3, 2018 17:09:54   #
CaptainEd
 
robertjerl wrote:
AF generally picks the closest object except on the more advanced bodies where you can set it to hold on to a subject even through short intrusions.
I use center point focus 75% of the time. Sometimes I will focus on the feeder/flower in manual and just wait for the bird to enter the focus field. That is one of the old pre AF tricks, it takes a lot of waiting and missed shots when the bird is just outside the pre focus area. Some of my best BIF shots (Egret and Osprey) were done that way with a 6D. All the "experts" will tell you the 6D can't do BIF or action, but by using (first you have to know them) the pre AF tricks that worked for a long time you can do it.
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I tried center weighted, and that's where I kept catching stuff on the periphery. I got some good shots with manual focus set on the "flower" of the feeder, but as you described missed many just outside of that range. I'll try center point and hand holding, I was using a tripod and remote trigger to get close.

Thank you for the reply,
-Ed G.

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May 4, 2018 01:15:25   #
Geezer Bill Loc: San Diego County, CA
 
jeep_daddy wrote:
When I shoot Hummingbirds, I set my camera at ISO400-640, f/5.6 or if my lens will do it f/4.0 and keep an eye on my shutter speed. I use aperture priority and adjust my ISO to keep my shutter speed up to at least 1/1600th in bright areas or full sun. If the bird is sitting I can make an adjustment to a lower ISO and maybe a shutter of 1/800th. You have to learn how to change your ISO fast without looking at your camera.

Don't bother shooting birds in shaded areas unless you have a camera mounted flash. Only focus on shooting those that are in full sun. If you find a location that has hummers that isn't in full sun, mount a flash on your camera. You can't completely freeze the wings at 1/200th with flash, but you will get some pretty nice pics with some motion blur on the wings. You may have to bring your ISO up quite a lot if you are shooting in shaded areas. Use a quality flash that has the option of using HSS (High Speed Sync) I was with a friend that bought a cheap flash and it would only flash at the cameras max sync speed and the batteries didn't last very long either.********************************************************************************************************************************
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These are all great shots!! We started feeding hummers and I wanted to get some decent shots so I could better try to ID the birds we get. I know that we get at least five different ones, but I don't like to call something until I'm sure of the ID. Is there anywhere where I might see more of your images?

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May 4, 2018 01:24:18   #
suntouched Loc: Sierra Vista AZ
 
These are some of the nicest hummer shots that I have seen- beautiful color and clarity. I experimented recently with fill flash with mixed results. The flash synch speed is 1/250 which blurred the wings and kept the body sharp- sometimes. Better to shoot in sunlight!

jeep_daddy wrote:
When I shoot Hummingbirds, I set my camera at ISO400-640, f/5.6 or if my lens will do it f/4.0 and keep an eye on my shutter speed. I use aperture priority and adjust my ISO to keep my shutter speed up to at least 1/1600th in bright areas or full sun. If the bird is sitting I can make an adjustment to a lower ISO and maybe a shutter of 1/800th. You have to learn how to change your ISO fast without looking at your camera.

Don't bother shooting birds in shaded areas unless you have a camera mounted flash. Only focus on shooting those that are in full sun. If you find a location that has hummers that isn't in full sun, mount a flash on your camera. You can't completely freeze the wings at 1/200th with flash, but you will get some pretty nice pics with some motion blur on the wings. You may have to bring your ISO up quite a lot if you are shooting in shaded areas. Use a quality flash that has the option of using HSS (High Speed Sync) I was with a friend that bought a cheap flash and it would only flash at the cameras max sync speed and the batteries didn't last very long either.********************************************************************************************************************************
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May 4, 2018 03:09:01   #
robertjerl Loc: Corona, California
 
CaptainEd wrote:
I tried center weighted, and that's where I kept catching stuff on the periphery. I got some good shots with manual focus set on the "flower" of the feeder, but as you described missed many just outside of that range. I'll try center point and hand holding, I was using a tripod and remote trigger to get close.

Thank you for the reply,
-Ed G.


I do mostly handheld, sitting in a lawn chair near the feeders. After a while they get used to you and come to the feeders. I also use a tripod with gimbal head when I am feeling a bit shaky or know I will be there a long time.

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May 4, 2018 03:21:19   #
robertjerl Loc: Corona, California
 
suntouched wrote:
These are some of the nicest hummer shots that I have seen- beautiful color and clarity. I experimented recently with fill flash with mixed results. The flash synch speed is 1/250 which blurred the wings and kept the body sharp- sometimes. Better to shoot in sunlight!

since hummers will get comfortable with you being fairly close to the feeder (just no sudden movement etc to scare them) you can try high speed sync flash. It will only work with a fairly powerful flash. I have a Yongnuo 600 (clone of the Canon) that has a guide number of 60m/196ft so on high speed sync with my 100-400 at f/6.3, the flash at top output and 1/2000 I get a range of 7 meters for the flash indicated on the screen. Since it is also daylight the birds are fairly well lit. That is almost 23 feet and I have had hummers come to feeders 8 feet from my lawn chair.

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May 4, 2018 20:59:31   #
jeep_daddy Loc: Prescott AZ
 
suntouched wrote:
These are some of the nicest hummer shots that I have seen- beautiful color and clarity. I experimented recently with fill flash with mixed results. The flash synch speed is 1/250 which blurred the wings and kept the body sharp- sometimes. Better to shoot in sunlight!


I agree that it's better to get them in sunlight especially if you can get them with the sun on their throats just right - especially the males.

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May 6, 2018 12:32:20   #
corw314 Loc: Howell, NJ
 
Awesome pics!!! And thankyou for all the info. Hopefully I can share with you all updated shots soon!!!!

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May 12, 2018 11:22:11   #
gvarner Loc: Central Oregon Coast
 
1/500 is the minimum to stop a helicopter rotor, go faster for a hummer. I would try Manual settings with Auto-ISO and then some exposure compensation depending on lighting. I used to be a fan of spot metering but have recently read about using a matrix mode plus compensation to move your highlights to the right if they're not quite there in the histogram.

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May 12, 2018 12:26:29   #
SpyderJan Loc: New Smyrna Beach. FL
 
GED wrote:
You will need 1000th to 2000th of a second depending on how much motion you want to show. I have had good results from 640 to 1250th of a second most of the time. The Ruby throats we have in the east average 60 to 80 wing beats per second and the males can hit 200 wbs during their courtship display. They are amazing creations, to think a little bird that weighs 3oz can fly none stop across the gulf to get to central america an 8 hr trip that's about 2,000,000 wing beats without eating. That's only one part of what may be a 2000 mile journey.
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Those are a couple of sweet hummer captures Glen

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May 12, 2018 12:28:00   #
SpyderJan Loc: New Smyrna Beach. FL
 
jeep_daddy wrote:
When I shoot Hummingbirds, I set my camera at ISO400-640, f/5.6 or if my lens will do it f/4.0 and keep an eye on my shutter speed. I use aperture priority and adjust my ISO to keep my shutter speed up to at least 1/1600th in bright areas or full sun. If the bird is sitting I can make an adjustment to a lower ISO and maybe a shutter of 1/800th. You have to learn how to change your ISO fast without looking at your camera.

Don't bother shooting birds in shaded areas unless you have a camera mounted flash. Only focus on shooting those that are in full sun. If you find a location that has hummers that isn't in full sun, mount a flash on your camera. You can't completely freeze the wings at 1/200th with flash, but you will get some pretty nice pics with some motion blur on the wings. You may have to bring your ISO up quite a lot if you are shooting in shaded areas. Use a quality flash that has the option of using HSS (High Speed Sync) I was with a friend that bought a cheap flash and it would only flash at the cameras max sync speed and the batteries didn't last very long either.********************************************************************************************************************************
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Absolutely beautiful.

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May 21, 2018 20:56:11   #
jj56 Loc: Londonderry, NH
 
Between jeep daddy and Robertjeri how can you not be inspired. We have a rose of sharon that attracts hummers and I’ll be planted nearby using their tips to hopefully get a few keepers. Awesome shots from both you guys. Thank you!

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