Peterff Loc: O'er The Hills and Far Away, in Themyscira.

Bad dog. Attic! And stay!

mr spock Loc: Fairfield CT

Agreed!!

KGOldWolf

PeterF & Mr. Spock; thank you for your thoughtfulness. As for the unpleasant remarks, 🤷‍♂️ Some people are miserable but that’s their problem, not mine.

Glad you found the article interesting and non-partisan.

Ken

jcboy3

I think you meant "couldn't care less".

But you were the first to put up a post that would drive this thread to the attic. Congratulations. Your momma is so proud of you.

thom w Loc: San Jose, CA

I think he may have opened himself to bribery charges.

Cookie223 Loc: New Jersey

Well said!

Blurryeyed Loc: NC Mountains.

Excuse the manner in which I say this but this is nothing but a piece of shit article, it completely takes what he said out of context and gives his words that have the opposite effect of what he was telling the group of business persons from his home state.

Here is the full context of what Mulvaney said as he implored folks from back home to visit their congressmen and advocate for their needs. Of course fake news CNN does not have the credibility to report this as it was said.

From Axios....

“We had a hierarchy in my office in Congress. If you’re a lobbyist who never gave us money, I didn’t talk to you. If you’re a lobbyist who gave us money, I might talk to you. If you came from back home and sat in my lobby, I talk to you without exception, regardless of the financial contributions. People coming from back home, to tell people in Congress what issues are important to them, is one of the fundamental underpinnings of our representative democracy, and you have to continue to do it.

It is time to wake up, it is not only Fox News setting us against each other, CNN has no credibility, nor do the others reporting on this issue as if Mulvaney is some kind of grifter, he was saying that the lobbyists were really less important than his constituents, if they had contributed they MIGHT get an audience, if you were from back home you always got an audience regardless of contributions. How screwed up is CNN's reporting on this?

thom w Loc: San Jose, CA

He is gutting consumer protections so I'd say he is a grifter.

KGOldWolf

Blurry, I took no position on this, I just passed it along. The remainder of his observations seem accurate to me. I regret you got so upset with this. The way your response began seemed as though you were blaming me for having shared it.

Peterff Loc: O'er The Hills and Far Away, in Themyscira.

I see that we have hit the attic now. Surprise!

Blurryeyed Loc: NC Mountains.

I am not at all angry with you, I am however really pissed off that the press would stoop so low to report it as they do, even the Post ran an article about how corrupt he was based on the selectively edited portion of his words... It just goes to show how far our democracy is slipping out of our hands and the efforts that are being made to keep us at each others throats. No-one but no-one in positions to heal this country seem to have any interest in doing so. When the Washington Post runs an outright lie and a hit piece such as this... well there can be no more faith in media.

Blurryeyed Loc: NC Mountains.

What can you tell me Thom of the damage done to smaller and local financial institutions by Dodd Frank and the consumer protection regulations put in by the Obama administration... If you know little more than you are a democrat and that old wind bag Elizabeth Warren supports them then maybe you should reframe from making such comments, if you have a deep understanding of what is Mulvaney is doing and how it will adversely effect consumers then please tell us, I will listen and do a little studying based on what you put forth... I urge you to remember Thom, there are still those in this country that think that an adult has some responsibility to make an educated decision, that the government does not need to involve itself in protecting us from our own willful ignorance.

LWW Loc: Banana Republic of America

I have to come to the defense of KGOW on this one.

Prior to this thread I have disagreed with him on pretty much everything, but I have never suggested that he, or anyone else, be censored.

KGOldWolf

LWW - I agree, we've disagreed on almost every topic and, low and behold, I realize in a recent "debate" I was wrong! I've been doing additional research regarding National Socialism and Communism having different implementations but common roots. Your persistent efforts to prove your side of the argument are appreciated for I did learn your distinction was both insightful and deeply rooted in a better historical analysis than I put forth. I was focused too much on their result and too casual about their genesis.

However, don't let that go to your head!

Not to go off "target" but in a stunning admission, I've recently learned I don't know as much as I think! The "How often do you shoot" thread revealed a dimension of gun ownership that humanized the issue for me. Prior to that thread I only saw it as a two position issue... "need or needless". I do not own a gun and never will, however I now see that ownership is much due to a collectior's pride and a competitor's spirit and not for the fear and intimidation I ascribed to it.

I still consider myself a moderate and will engage you when I have a different point of view but I resolve to not let it become personal and I hopefully will achieve that by listening more closely.

Ken

LWW Loc: Banana Republic of America

None of us know as much as we think we do, that’s a common human flaw.

The disconnect on Hitler being a socialist is that people associate naziism as being a genocidal racist ideology when it was an economic ideology.

Hitler happened to be both, as was Marx.