Raw processing software ........
Picasa 3 stand alone is free
markngolf wrote:
Following Gene's response:
I think you can "rent" the Adobe subscription plan a month at a time. If you imbibe, (beer, wine, ...) you'll probably spend 20 - 30 times as much in a year as the Adobe subscription.
Good luck in making your choice(s)
Mark
Following Mark's response:
In photography terms, the monthly cost is less that it used to cost to get a 36 exposure roll of color film developed and printed.
But, to each his own.
I found that I spend no more with the Adobe monthly subscription than I spent upgrading PS Elements every 1 to 2 years. You always have the latest version available and Lightroom is awesome!
apolloshep wrote:
I am at the point of buying software for processing photos. I do not think I will go with Lightroom cause of the monthly fee. I may not process files for a month or more so it seems like paying monthly fees would be a waste of money. I am at the crossroad at this point. The three programs I am considering are Luminar, Affinity and On1. I know this topic has been discussed many time and do not want to waste to much time on it. I like the fact that Luminar is intuitive and easy to work with and there are a lot of reviews that say it is a good program and will be a competitor to Lightroom at some point. It has a ton of filters and they are going to have the dam feature in it probably have it now. Affinity seems like a good app too. On1 now is selling their app for 69 dollars right now and seems like a good app from the reviews on line as well. The other question I have is the HDR feature that lets you use raw files my camera only supports jpeg images only for HDR. I see that luminar has a program called Aurora HDR but it is 100 bucks. Do any one of the three apps I mention have HDR built in that does a good job? My gut is leaning towards Luminar since I am new to processing raw photos and the reviews say for new eyes this is a great program to work with. Anyone that uses any of these programs could you reply why you like one over the other.
Thanks
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$9.99/month is less than a roll of film and 4x6 proof prints cost ($20 to $30 for Kodak film and processing at a decent lab).
So... I subscribe to the Adobe Photography Bundle. I get much more value from that than I would from film! I get control over results, and I also leverage 25+ years of experience in Ps and 12 in Lr.
I pay for photoshop, yes, a monthly fee. But I have used it for years, and it is pretty amazing what it can do. That said, I also have used ON1, Luminar, Lightroom, and have plugins with Topaz, and NIK. I am an amateur, but take a lot of pictures, probably 10,000 a year, all in RAW, but also in jpeg with the second memory card. I don't post process all, just the ones that look the best from a lighting and subject matter standpoint. I like ON1 for sure, pretty simple to use. Luminar/Affinity are good as well. I rarely if ever use Lightroom, I simply do not like the filing system. I also like the browsing software that comes with Photoshop, called Bridge. As for post-processing, Photoshop does it all.
Oh, another point, perhaps ON1, Infinity, etc., all have the capability to match the color profiles between your computer and printer and can handle assigning that profile to all new pictures. For years I have struggled to get the printer to match the on-screen image, both in colors and brightness. I recently got the Canon Pro 100, and it also had some issues, so I listened to a few YouTube videos on this topic, and with photoshop it is very easy to match the output of the computer to the printer for much better pictures. I don't know how to do this in Luminar or ON1. I know Lightroom has this capability.
Net, I am a photoshop fan. And yes, you can suspend the payments if you want if you do not plan on using it.
Other RAW options include RawTherapee which is freeware. It will give you the opportunity to see what features you need/want and those you don't (and at a good price). I use Corel Aftershot Pro as my primary RAW processor/manager which includes HDR capability. I also use Paintshop Pro for other digital creations and editing. I don't know why it is but it seems that Corel products never make the lists of candidate editors even though they are the #2 or #3 editor as far as market popularity. Corel is much less cost wise (even without the occasional discounts and lower renewal rates) than Adobe, especially if you look at the annual 'ownership/usage' costs. The key issue is that if you stop the Adobe subscription, you loose access to all of your RAW edits. Specifically, the RAW editors use a non-destruct approach to editing by making use of a sidecar file (*.xmp file) to record the settings and presets you applied. Then each time you open the file, it re-applies those edits to the original RAW file.
Each RAW editor has it's own *.xmp format to leverage it's specific features. My best suggestion is to take advantage of the trial versions and pay attention to the user interfaces and your workflow processes which will drive the learning curve. Other than that, the actual functional capability differences will generally be minor.
I have also use ON1. It also a lot of very good tutorials and it is on a very aggressive development track to compete in this market. It is a very good tool, especially since they recently added both HDR and Panorama capabilities.
apolloshep wrote:
I am at the point of buying software for processing photos. I do not think I will go with Lightroom cause of the monthly fee.
Thanks
You are not the first person to say this. But to be honest with you, the $10/mo gym fee and my $10/mo Adobe Creative Cloud fee's that get deducted automatically each month is not even noticed one bit. It's totally painless compared to paying other bills. Hell, my water bill is 7x higher than that. My DirecTv bill is $180/mo (including high speed internet). Those bills really irk me especially the DirecTv since it's purely entertainment. So 10 bucks a month is nothing for a product that is the best on the market. There are so many youtube videos on how to do this and that with PS and LR it's not even funny.
Nothing better than Lightroom and Photoshop. I have seen the anual fee for under $80 a year. I paid that buying the full version ever 3 or 4 years. So wouldn't you want an always current software instead of being 3 years behind in improvements. Like MS Office this is the cheapest and most up to date way to shop. Unfortunately photography is as expensive as a golf hobby. It's all what you want to get out of it. You can belong to a county club or play 9 hole city courses. Get my drift?
dsmeltz wrote:
... do not plan to buy a new camera body (Adobe will update their programs for new bodies) ...
DxO also updates for new cameras and lenses
I wouldn't do Lightroom without photoshop unless you are only doing basic editing. Also the PSC subscription includes Lightroom.
Whuff wrote:
Lightroom could still be an option. You can still buy the stand alone version, it just won’t be updated in the future but if it does what you need and supports your camera, it can be viable for several years into the future. I realize you asked about other options but thought i’d just mention it.
Walt
TheShoe wrote:
DxO also updates for new cameras and lenses
Don't know of any that do not update..... Not just Adobe..
DirtFarmer
Loc: Escaped from the NYC area, back to MA
rfmaude41 wrote:
Don't know of any that do not update..... Not just Adobe..
There's a difference between producing new versions and updating the current version. In the old model, Adobe (or other software writer) would sell you LR model 3 and give you updates as necessary. Then when they came out with model 4 you paid for the upgrade (or update if you want to call it that). If you had the model 3, the upgrade would come at a lower price, but it was still an upgrade that you paid for.
The Adobe Photography package has gone through a number of major upgrades/updates and a bunch of minor updates. They are all included in the subscription price.
Sorry I actually like the original better. The processed one seems over-exposed.
bmike101 wrote:
here's an example of what you can do. I'm just a beginner. I'm sure someone with a lot of experiance..... the possibilities are endless!
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