Waffle House shooting suspect captured - (Page 2): I fear society as a whole has failed, both the vics and the shooter. What percentage of our medical budget goes toward mental health?

DonB Loc: Port Royal , Tn

I fear society as a whole has failed, both the vics and the shooter. What percentage of our medical budget goes toward mental health? What new gun law would have prevented this from happening? Look at how many laws are on the books now. How about the rental van terror in Canada yesterday, 9 people killed because a driver took aim at them with a van, do you hear people blaming the van and saying we should outlaw vans, and by implications all motor vehicles?

LWW Loc: Banana Republic of America

kd7eir wrote:

NOWHERE did that response say that the NRA broke the law. That only happened in your mind - Freudian slip, perhaps? I just LOVE how you conservatives have to make up shit just to hear yourself talk/type instead of dealing with FACTS.

BTW - your juvenile misspelling of BREAK as BRAKE is, perhaps, another Freudian slip, because the NRA does BRAKE sensible laws all the time.

How do they do that? Examples?

will47 Loc: Indianapolis, IN

kd7eir wrote:

NOWHERE did that response say that the NRA broke the law. That only happened in your mind - Freudian slip, perhaps? I just LOVE how you conservatives have to make up shit just to hear yourself talk/type instead of dealing with FACTS.

BTW - your juvenile misspelling of BREAK as BRAKE is, perhaps, another Freudian slip, because the NRA does BRAKE sensible laws all the time.

Please tell me and all others the laws they are breaking. You juvenile left wind progressive liberal idiots should move to Canada. Follow your movie stars up there, oh wait, they didn't leave did they? Try to find the hildabeast and have a pity party with her...we don't wanna hear it.

Kmgw9v Loc: Miami, Florida

DonB wrote:

I fear society as a whole has failed, both the vics and the shooter. What percentage of our medical budget goes toward mental health? What new gun law would have prevented this from happening? Look at how many laws are on the books now. How about the rental van terror in Canada yesterday, 9 people killed because a driver took aim at them with a van, do you hear people blaming the van and saying we should outlaw vans, and by implications all motor vehicles?

Guns have one purpose--shoot bullets.
Motor vehicles are for transportation--a needed service.
Should I further explain how meaningless your argument is?

will47 Loc: Indianapolis, IN

Kmgw9v wrote:

Guns have one purpose--shoot bullets.
Motor vehicles are for transportation--a needed service.
Should I further explain how meaningless your argument is?

Please explain.

FrankR Loc: NYC

sourdough58 wrote:

Once again helpless victims are slaughtered, if only even a few people were there with concealed carry and a little training we would have a different headline.

You mean like the trained, professional cops in Parkland FL? Because somebody is armed, it doesn’t mean they’re capable and willing to make that split second, life and death decision. And, “A little training” is a VERY dangerous thing.

jsmangis Loc: Peoria, IL

Sirsnapalot wrote:

Laws can't and won't prevent crime, the NRA did not brake the law, the father did! And what does " the whitest and most un inclusive" have to do with this crime?

Since I am familiar with where these people live, I understand the dynamic that exists in towns like Morton. It means that if his father wasn't white, and didn't live in a white suburb, the Feds wouldn't have returned the guns to him, and if this kid wasn't white, the cops would have killed him instead of taking him into custody.

whynot

If they have a line up for identification, will everyone need to be naked in the line up. Lets face it, if someone walked up to you undressed, you probably wouldn't be looking at the color of his eyes.

Cykdelic Loc: Now outside of Chiraq & Santa Fe, NM

Kmgw9v wrote:

This country is replete with disilłusioned wing-nuts hiding in the shadows only an impulse away from shooting strangers.
One's only hope is too not be eating waffles when it happens.

You are correct......both LEFT and right wing nuts.

Hal81 Loc: Bucks County, Pa.

A punishment to fit the crime. His head should be placed in one of those waffle makers and toasted till done.

chikid68 Loc: Tennesse USA

I for one am very glad he is in custody I live about 15 miles from where it happened and all of Middle Tn has been very wary the whole time he was free

Ka2azman Loc: Tucson, Az

jsmangis wrote:

This whole thing disturbs me. I live less than tw... (show quote)

WRITE YOUR CONGRESSMAN! After all it is the guns fault! We need to ignore that he was actually illegal to have the gun in his possession because of previous run ins with the police actions. As soon as he was arrested they called him mentally unstable! He had at one time to be mentally examined but released. His guns were taken away! His father gave him them back! Why was he out on the streets if he was mentally unstable? Again we need to write our congress-people to get these people off the streets for our and their own benefit!

Ka2azman Loc: Tucson, Az

Kmgw9v wrote:

Guns have one purpose--shoot bullets.
Motor vehicles are for transportation--a needed service.
Should I further explain how meaningless your argument is?

YES - you need to explain further. Misuse of either causes catastrophic results. Is it possible that a car driving down a side walk killing innocent people became a weapon of mass destruction, just like a gun? So your hinting that, it matters that a bullet is far more dangerous? Isn't, dead is dead, for no good reason? It is the user that counts in the stopping of the destruction, not the item! It is better to stop the criminal before he gets to ANY weapon of mass destruction. Keep focusing on the item and the events will continue to happen!

Ka2azman Loc: Tucson, Az

FrankR wrote:

You mean like the trained, professional cops in Parkland FL? Because somebody is armed, it doesn’t mean they’re capable and willing to make that split second, life and death decision. And, “A little training” is a VERY dangerous thing.

Weird, an unarmed man, James Shaw Jr. stopped the rampage by taking the gun away from the perp! And here you are harping on a "What if somebody was armed" - because this never happened!

Your right " Because somebody is armed, it doesn’t mean they’re capable and willing to make that split second, life and death decision." One reason is the backlash they might get from whoever. Basically they have to prove their innocents from acting, to the police, to let them go. If you have a gun out when the police arrive they aim at you, you are their target and ready to drop you with their guns. I would claim that that is a very tense and dangerous position to be in. Not all people want to be placed into that position.

Have a fire extinguisher in your house in case of a fire? When a fire starts, do all who have them get them out and put the fire out with cool heads? NOPE! Very few homes are not without garden hoses, they could also be used against a fire. Do people think of that when under stress, NOPE!

Even though isn't it better to have either one available just in case someone has a cool head in case of fire?

Ka2azman Loc: Tucson, Az

jsmangis wrote:

Since I am familiar with where these people live, I understand the dynamic that exists in towns like Morton. It means that if his father wasn't white, and didn't live in a white suburb, the Feds wouldn't have returned the guns to him, and if this kid wasn't white, the cops would have killed him instead of taking him into custody.

With no disrespect I do not get a whole collective thought here? What you might be saying, correct me if I'm wrong, that racism is present?

First, the feds were not involved with the guns. It would have been the state or local authorities, because no federal crimes were committed by this person prior to the removal of the guns. Any involvement of Feds would only be notifying them, if they did that.

A big problem for America is the racial issue. Keep bringing it up does it no good. In smaller communities police have a greater interaction with the locals because a lot of them grew up and interact with the follow citizens. Whether school, churches, seeing each other off duty in grocery stores or local events. That includes both black and white. Why did they not shoot him, "He did not resist when officers approached him with guns drawn, Lara said." LA Times. Also even though armed (gun in a back pack), he didn't show any aggressiveness and nothing in his hands. So there was no fear of life on the police side. It was not because he was white.

On the racial issue something I heard recently makes a lot of sense. The racial issue is not of today's making, but of the past. And those who keep looking back for answers will not find a good future. For a good future you have to look to the future and work for it. If you are looking for answer from the past your wasting your time. It is well documented that racial issues have come a long ways, and that I am glad. Is there more to do, yes, but there again it is the future that needs work not the past.

Those who keep bringing up the past are those who are looking for power from those that are easily directed.