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The Spectrum of Intent for Nude Photography - Where does your work fall?
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Apr 20, 2018 08:04:09   #
joehel2 Loc: Cherry Hill, NJ
 
I love your graphic. I see it applied more like the face of a clock. For me, your first photo is 3 o’clocK and the second would be 4 o’clock on the scale. Both beautiful photos of a beautiful model.

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Apr 20, 2018 08:53:03   #
CanonTom Loc: Birmingham
 
A very interesting discussion in a section that rarely get so much. I like seeing this type discussion. No one being rude, but actually discussing photography openly and honestly without undue criticize. I completely agree that this section occasionally gets photographs which many find offensive, but I do not believe that should be brought up. If I don't like the photo or someone's style and have nothing constructive to contribute, I keep my mouth shut. If I believe I can offer something helpful to the photographer, I sometimes do comment, unless someone else has already said it.

I agree, I think, with everything said here on this thread so far. And ISO, for the record, I love the shots you and your wife have been posting! Please continue.

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Apr 20, 2018 10:37:31   #
Toby
 
InfiniteISO wrote:
I've been thinking about how I, or other photographers would categorize the nude images I take. I will be the first to admit that I tend to plan and take images that make me, as a red-blood, heterosexual male happy. I enjoy the beauty of the female form and trying to capture that beauty via my camera. I would like to think some of the images I take are artistic, but admittedly most are not. Then again, I'm rarely seeking an artistic image.

Because anything on UHH considered NSFW is going to end up here, I think it's thoughtful to consider the photographer's intent in the images they present. Intent, not execution. By showing my work here, regardless of my intent, I am looking for constructive criticism. Why? Because every image can be improved and working toward making myself a better photographer is a personal goal and the reason I share on this forum. It's not easy to take criticism well, but I'm trying to learn.

That said, it's important to state that it's OK in my mind for forum members to like a photo for the content alone. I happen to like 60s and 70s muscle cars. I can appreciate the car in a poorly executed photo. As a wannabe photographer and connoisseur of cars, I can also suggest how that car photo could be better. That applies to this section as well. What isn't helpful in this section is someone saying, "Damn, look at the wheels on that corvette!" Or conversely, "That heap belongs in the scrap yard, why are you taking photos of it."

For what it's worth, I am offering up this graphic illustration of my take on intent as it relates to nudes. Remember, intent does not necessarily translate to the finished product. So in my "spectrum" the X-axis runs from Prurient to Artistic, and the Y-axis runs from Candid to Orchestrated. Prurient is a better word in my mind than pornographic. Orchestrated connotes the presence of studio craft in all its many forms. Candid implies a photo of opportunity and in some cases, it can apply to an entire set of images.

So as photographers if your intended work falls in the Yellow corner, you're striving for a different goal than if your image falls in the Red corner. I would guess most people on this site are expecting images that are shades of orange, yellow or green or perhaps somewhere in that muddled, middle section. Full red images would cause a fuss here, and violet images are so bad, on so many different scales, that they truly don't belong here.

Me? A lot of my work, regardless of whether you find it legitimate or not, is going to be orange-ish. Call it cheesecake, pin-up, erotic, whatever, that's where I'm living photographically right now in this genre.

Where are you? Do you ever feel your peer's perceptions of your work are different than your intentions?
I've been thinking about how I, or other photograp... (show quote)


Your chart is interesting. I always knew photos struck me differently but never got into the detail enough to classify them the way you did. After thinking about it a bit I can say I have seen and like photos from all areas of the chart. I guess I am open minded although there are clearly some photos that have been posted here (the book covers that someone posted) that I do not like, perhaps because of their suggestive perversions. Also I will mention that if you had used a higher shutter speed you could have made the rain appear as streaks and the photo would have been completely different. Not better or worse, just different. Not sure where it would have then moved to on your chart, probably artistic. I think it is interesting how, in this situation, a minor change could make such a big difference.
This is what I like about this site, good photos and an attempt to learn something. Nice stuff keep shooting.

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Apr 20, 2018 13:04:54   #
Robeng Loc: California
 
I think I'm in the yellowish green area.

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Apr 20, 2018 13:51:56   #
Stardust Loc: Central Illinois
 
InfiniteISO wrote:
A better shot from that set perhaps


Yes, I like it considerably more than the first. Captures the rain getting her hair wet, much gentler pose, better position of the legs, the holding of the dress getting wet, the bare breasts with harden nipples from the rain, the eyes, etc. Zooming in on the Download to see the rain better even made it better. Thanks.

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Apr 20, 2018 14:30:51   #
BboH Loc: s of 2/21, Ellicott City, MD
 
[quote=Stardust]
One last comment on this thread - I categorize my nudes (and all photographs) by (1) do I like the photo or (2) do I not like it. That's it. I shoot or view what I like, don't try to define it.

I fall into this camp - I use the word "camp" as I expect there are others of the same mind - I either like it or I don't.

I seldom try to apply a critical eye's explanation of why as I have no need to do so. What I see here falls into the same category as movies, sports and other modes of entertainment, that is a few moments of stepping away from my matters some consequence.

Are there times when I will offer a critical comment - yes, when there is some detail of particular significance to my eye, usually something I like rather than what I don't like (I grew up with "If you can't say something nice don't say anything"). However, I will say something not nice but only in hopes that it may be of help to whomever it is directed.

So, ISO, I think your thoughts are provoking and of value.

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Apr 21, 2018 13:03:50   #
Rab-Eye Loc: Indiana
 
I think you’ve put out some worthwhile food for thought.

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May 2, 2018 14:33:19   #
wdross Loc: Castle Rock, Colorado
 
InfiniteISO wrote:
An example of Green-ish intent. Shooting indoors and a rain shower came up. The model moved outdoors in the clothes she was wearing and posed for several dozen images as she got soaked. No planing or studio craft, but the intention in the poses was to create artistic leaning images.


Do you have a shot of her before removing the clothing from her shoulders where the wet dress is showing off her body? Sometimes that can create a more natural "caught in the rain" type of shot which can be used to very artistically show the subject's body off.

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May 2, 2018 15:01:10   #
Stardust Loc: Central Illinois
 
wdross wrote:
Do you have a shot of her before removing the clothing from her shoulders where the wet dress is showing off her body?

That was my first instinct too - that thin gauze-type material cries out to be soaked, clinging to her body, nipple area showing through, but was afraid if I suggested covering up her breasts in this shot I might have my "man card" revoked. <lol>

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May 2, 2018 15:43:00   #
InfiniteISO Loc: The Carolinas, USA
 
wdross wrote:
Do you have a shot of her before removing the clothing from her shoulders where the wet dress is showing off her body? Sometimes that can create a more natural "caught in the rain" type of shot which can be used to very artistically show the subject's body off.


I'm away from the computer but I typically shoot RAW + Jpeg and save the Jpegs to Flickr as a third level of back-up. This shot is one of those. It's a pretty heavy chemise, so not very clingy. I was shooting from the porch and quite a few of the shots had foliage in the foreground which was distracting.


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May 2, 2018 15:53:46   #
InfiniteISO Loc: The Carolinas, USA
 
Another shot


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May 2, 2018 19:14:59   #
wdross Loc: Castle Rock, Colorado
 
InfiniteISO wrote:
Another shot


If the material had been a little thinner, it would have been more successful for #3 and #4. Please note: I stated more successful. The expression in #3 is great and #4 comes very close to what I had in mind (I even thought about suggesting a flower prop). It appears to me that you are successfully trying to keep your shots on the candid and artistic side.

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May 5, 2018 01:34:43   #
Stardust Loc: Central Illinois
 
I like #4 with flowers and facial expression - could caption "April showers bring May flowers" - but it was taken too early in the cycle for the dress - not even raining yet. Not complaining or being critical, just stating would have liked to have seen what that dress soaked would have given us. Tell your model to hang the dress on the porch and be ready in case of a downpour. (lol)

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May 5, 2018 08:53:26   #
JohnFrim Loc: Somewhere in the Great White North.
 
If the primary point of these photos was "rain" (from clouds, garden sprinkler, whatever) they missed the target. I had to look really hard to see the water or the effects of the water.

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May 5, 2018 09:12:15   #
InfiniteISO Loc: The Carolinas, USA
 
JohnFrim wrote:
If the primary point of these photos was "rain" (from clouds, garden sprinkler, whatever) they missed the target. I had to look really hard to see the water or the effects of the water.

Granted. We were already shooting when the storm blew in and the rain started out fairly light. The only dry vantage point to shoot from, as my gear is not waterproof, was the porch which was elevated about 3 feet above the yard. From there, there were only so many places in the yard that had an uncluttered view. It was a carpet diem moment and the results are what they are.

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