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Apr 19, 2018 09:34:53   #
Boris Ekner Loc: From Sweden, living in Guatemala
 
sinderone wrote:
I’m heading to Europe for a river cruise this summer. I’ll be taking my Nikon D7100 with a Nikon 18-200 plus a Nikon 35mm 1.8 for night shots. I feel that I need something wider than 18mm (28 on my dx body) for shots in crowded cities. I am considering the Nikor 10mm. It’s very small so I can stuff it in a pocket. Any thoughts or suggestions. I’ll be going from Prague to Budapest. Thanks.


If you’re like me and want to shoot sceneries rather than details as a tourist, I’d suggest you get the Tokina 11-20mm f2.8. The previous model, 11-16, has a known issue with sunflares that the newer one doesn’t.

You can get a used 11-20 on eBay for ~$400, the previous 11-16 slightly cheaper.

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Apr 19, 2018 11:00:52   #
mas24 Loc: Southern CA
 
As mentioned. The Nikon AF-P DX formatted 10-20mm. It will have a FOV of 15-30mm on the D7100 crop sensor. This will be the best bang for the bucks.

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Apr 19, 2018 11:09:36   #
OKsprat Loc: Oklahoma
 
My walk around lens for my crop sensor Canon is the 18-135. Like you, I always felt like it wasn't wide enough for some shots. I picked up the Canon 10-18 EFS lens 2 years ago and found it really helpful for indoor, landscape, and around town pictures. It's usually in the 10-12mm range if that helps you any. I'm sorry I'm not more familiar with the Nikon offerings, and REALLY sorry that I know nothing about river cruising, having never had the pleasure.

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Apr 19, 2018 11:16:09   #
RolandDieter
 
Zoom is the way to go on these trips. You will be lucky when you have time to switch lenses, so your idea of two zooms rather than a zoom and two or three primes is right on. The shore excursions groups do move along and you don't want to get behind or miss the shot as you keep up. By the way, both Prague and Budapest are fantastic cities.

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Apr 19, 2018 12:06:45   #
aggiedad Loc: Corona, ca
 
I too took the river trip from Amsterdam to Budapest. I used my 70-200L with a 1.4 extender which worked well for shots of castles from the boat. For shots in some cathedrals, a fast wide angle is needed. I had my 24-105 with me, but in some cases it was just too slow.

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Apr 19, 2018 14:02:02   #
ELNikkor
 
The 10-20P Nikon is lightweight and reasonably priced; that is what I would take.

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Apr 19, 2018 14:06:42   #
Raz Theo Loc: Music City
 
sinderone wrote:
I’m heading to Europe for a river cruise this summer. I’ll be taking my Nikon D7100 with a Nikon 18-200 plus a Nikon 35mm 1.8 for night shots. I feel that I need something wider than 18mm (28 on my dx body) for shots in crowded cities. I am considering the Nikor 10mm. It’s very small so I can stuff it in a pocket. Any thoughts or suggestions. I’ll be going from Prague to Budapest. Thanks.

sinderone, you might consider the Tokina AT-X 11-20mm F/2.8 Pro DX Zoom Lens for Nikon. I originally bought this lens (used $300) to complement my 70-200 2.8, among others, when I had plans to go full-frame. But I decided to stick with my D7100 for a while and couldn't be more pleased. The resultant 16mm-30mm for a crop camera is perfect (you have to be careful sometimes at 11mm) and I can't tell you how many times the 2.8 factor came in handy.

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Apr 19, 2018 14:44:18   #
mizzee Loc: Boston,Ma
 
Consider renting for the duration of your trip. What you'll save over the purchase price of a good wide angle will pay for a special excursion on your trip.

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Apr 19, 2018 19:44:44   #
amfoto1 Loc: San Jose, Calif. USA
 
sinderone wrote:
I’m heading to Europe for a river cruise this summer. I’ll be taking my Nikon D7100 with a Nikon 18-200 plus a Nikon 35mm 1.8 for night shots. I feel that I need something wider than 18mm (28 on my dx body) for shots in crowded cities. I am considering the Nikor 10mm. It’s very small so I can stuff it in a pocket. Any thoughts or suggestions. I’ll be going from Prague to Budapest. Thanks.


I've heard a lot of good things about the Nikkor 10-20mm VR. It's low cost (around $300), stabilized and quite compact. The only thing... be sure your D7100 will work properly with the AF-P focus drive of the lens. You may need to do a firmware update to the camera. And even then it might not be able to take advantage of some of the lens' features.

The only other two ultrawides for APS-C that Nikon offers are really good lenses, but not all that special and horrendously overpriced. The Nikkor AF-S 10-24mm sells for around $900... and the AF-S 12-24mm is around $1150. They are the two most expensive crop-only ultrawide zooms anyone offers, by a pretty large margin!

$470... Tokina 11-20mm f/2.8 (a lot bigger and heavier than the 10-20mm)
$430... Tokina 12-28mm f/4 (not quite as big & heavy as the other Tokina, but still nowhere near as compact and light as the Nikkor 10-20mm)
$450... Tamron 10-24mm (older version without stabilization)
$400... Sigma 10-20mm f/3.5 (also a rather big and heavy lens).
$490... Tamron 10-24mm VC (new version with stabilization)
$700... the Sigma 8-16mm (the widest non-fisheye, crop sensor lens made by anyone)

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Apr 19, 2018 21:59:21   #
IDguy Loc: Idaho
 
amfoto1 wrote:
I've heard a lot of good things about the Nikkor 10-20mm VR. It's low cost (around $300), stabilized and quite compact. The only thing... be sure your D7100 will work properly with the AF-P focus drive of the lens. You may need to do a firmware update to the camera. And even then it might not be able to take advantage of some of the lens' features.

The only other two ultrawides for APS-C that Nikon offers are really good lenses, but not all that special and horrendously overpriced. The Nikkor AF-S 10-24mm sells for around $900... and the AF-S 12-24mm is around $1150. They are the two most expensive crop-only ultrawide zooms anyone offers, by a pretty large margin!

$470... Tokina 11-20mm f/2.8 (a lot bigger and heavier than the 10-20mm)
$430... Tokina 12-28mm f/4 (not quite as big & heavy as the other Tokina, but still nowhere near as compact and light as the Nikkor 10-20mm)
$450... Tamron 10-24mm (older version without stabilization)
$400... Sigma 10-20mm f/3.5 (also a rather big and heavy lens).
$490... Tamron 10-24mm VC (new version with stabilization)
$700... the Sigma 8-16mm (the widest non-fisheye, crop sensor lens made by anyone)
I've heard a lot of good things about the Nikkor 1... (show quote)


The Nikon 10-24 is a great imaging lens. But it is a bit heavy, slow, and lacks VR. I have one but leave it home and use a Sigma 17-50 f2.8 only on such trips (now w D5600). It is heavy too but the only lens I need. It has good VR (OS). If I need wider I take overlapping inages for later panorama stiching.

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Apr 20, 2018 14:03:22   #
rtroxel730 Loc: Indiana
 
I traveled all over Europe in the late 60's with my Pentax 35mm camera. All I had was individual lenses and the wide angle
lens was a 28mm. It did the job quite well, I was able to take photos of large buildings even in crowded places. The only thing
was sometimes I got distortions. I took a picture of the leaning tower of Pisa, when I got my prints back all the buildings around
it was leaning also.

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