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Apr 1, 2018 12:11:58   #
b roll wanabee
 
Canon t2i through t6i are all very similar.
The Ti series is more camera than the T series.

Confusing how the little I makes so much difference.

The t7i is a bigger upgrade. If your serious get this one otherwise get a used ti2-ti6 and save some money.

I use the t2i and whIle a little dated does everything well. Great backup camera.

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Apr 1, 2018 13:29:52   #
amfoto1 Loc: San Jose, Calif. USA
 
The T6 is Canon's most entry-level DSLR... and currently is being phased out and superseded by the T7 which has just been announced. As a result, there's some discounting of T6 to clear the shelves in stores.

I suppose it's a testament to the success of the T6 that the T7 is almost identical. The only changes appear to be a higher resolution sensor: 24MP in T7 versus 18MP in the T6.

One thing I don't care for is that the T6 (and T7) DON'T HAVE a self-cleaning sensor. I often have to shoot in dusty conditions and prior to using cameras with self-cleaning sensors, I had to do manual cleanings every one to 3 months. Now using Canon with self-cleaning sensors it's more like once a year or so, that a manual cleaning is needed. The T6 and T7 are the ONLY Canon DSLRs without this feature that I feel is very useful. (In fact I passed over buying the original 5D full frame model because it also didn't have a self-cleaning sensor and had a bit of a reputation as a "dust magnet". I waited and bought a 5D Mark II with the self-cleaning... don't use it nearly as much as my APS-C cameras or in as dusty conditions... and I think I may have manually cleaned it once or twice in 7 years).

The EOS Rebel T6 (called EOS 1300D elsewhere in the world and EOS "Kiss" X80 in Japan) is relatively small and light weight. (The Rebel SL2/200D is smaller/lighter, but has more features and costs a little more.)

T6 has a lot of automation... sort of like a point-n-shoot that allows interchangeable lenses. That makes sense, since it's likely that a lot of T6 buyers are stepping up from a P&S camera to their first DSLR.

T6 is often found "in kit" with one or more lenses. The EF-S 18-55mm IS "II" that it's usually fitted with is okay... but it's a micro motor lens. I'd prefer the EF-S 18-55mm IS "STM" for it's faster/quieter "stepper motor" autofocus, but it's a fairly minor difference.

More important is if you buy the two lens kit, be certain to get the EF-S 55-250mm IS STM telephoto zoom... NOT the cheaper EF 75-300mm "III". The latter is Canon's cheapest tele zoom and acts the part. The 75-300 III lacks IS (image stabilization), has slower/noisier micro motor focus drive (more of an issue on a tele zoom, than the 18-55mm) AND it simply doesn't have all that great image quality.... especially toward the 300mm end of its zoom range, which is likely what you'd want it for.

The EF-S 55-250mm IS STM is a better lens in pretty much all respects. It's got better image quality and is able to focus closer, it has faster/quieter STM focus drive, and it has helpful IS. IMO, it's worth the additional cost.

Don't confuse the T6 with the T6i or T6s, both of which are more advanced cameras with a number of additional features (also now superseded by newer models: T7i and 77D, respectively).

Incidentally, if you prefer a smaller camera, the Rebel SL1 is still widely available new and is similar to the T6, but comes fitted with the EF-S 18-55mm IS STM lens mentioned above. It does not appear to be offered in kit with 55-250 though... only with that 75-300mm III. So I'd recommend not buying it in the two lens kit. Instead get it only with the 18-55mm and add the tele zoom of your choice separately.

Besides being offered with the slightly better 18-55mm lens, the 18MP SL1 also has a self-cleaning sensor, a Touch Screen rear monitor (fixed) and faster continuous shooting rate.

The SL2 got an upgrade to 24MP and it's Touch Screen is articulated. The SL2 also has Dual Pixel Auto Focus (DPAF) in Live View mode, which is much faster than the earlier forms of AF used in Live View and helps make it much more usable.

Both the SL1 and SL2 use newer processors (Digic 5 and Digic 7, respectively) that allow them to shoot continuously at higher frame rates than the T6/T7... The SL1 can shoot at 4 frames per second and the SL2 at 5 fps. The T6 & T7 both use Digic 4 processors and are limited to 3 fps.

T6's and T7's ISO range is 100-6400 (extends to 12800). The SL1's range is 100-12800 (extends to 25600) and the SL2's is 100-25600 (extends to 51200).

All these Canon are a lot more similar than they're different. I do feel the 24MP cameras offer a noticeable step up from the older 18MP in a number of ways... overall better image quality, increased dynamic range, higher usable ISO (allowing shooting in lower light conditions).

One place the T6, T7, SL1 and SL2 are all virtually identical is their optical viewfinders and the autofocus system you'll see there. Like all Rebel series models, they all use a "penta-mirror" instead of a pentaprism, to save weight and cost. They also are all 95% viewfinders with around .85X magnification (some of the more advanced cameras have bigger, brighter 100% viewfinders with up to 1.0X magnification). And all four models use a similar, fairly simple and easy to use 9-point AF system that has one higher performance "cross type" AF point at the center (the more advanced Canon DSLRs have far more complex 45, 61 or 65-point systems, most of which are all cross type).

T6, T7, SL1 and SL2 all also use the same SD type memory cards. The T6 and T7 use the same LP-E10 battery, while the , in each typeSL1 and SL2 use LP-E12 and LP-E17, respectively. The T6 and (I think) T7 can optionally be fitted with a vertical/battery grip.... doubling the number of batteries and providing convenient, vertical controls (2nd shutter release button, etc.) The SL1 and SL2 cannot be fitted with a battery grip, probably because they are intended to be the smallest APS-C DSLRs available.

To summarize, here's the current Canon USA interchangeable lens camera line-up from most entry-level to most advanced:

DSLRs, APS-C size sensors (EF-S and EF lenses):
EOS Rebel T6... 18MP, 9-point AF, discontinued.
EOS Rebel T7... 24MP, 9-point AF, new, announced but not in stores yet.
EOS Rebel SL1... 18MP, 9-point AF, discontinued.
EOS Rebel S2... 24MP, 9-point AF, new, in stores now.
EOS Rebel T6i... 18MP, 19-point AF, discontinued.
EOS Rebel T7i... 24MP, 45-point AF
EOS Rebel T6s... 18MP, 19-point AF, discontinued.
EOS 77D.......... 24MP, 45-point AF (replaces T6s, in spite of not being called a Rebel)
EOS 80D.......... 24MP, 45-point AF, 7 fps, higher spec shutter, pentaprism & more
EOS 7D Mk II... 20 MP, 65-point AF, 10 fps, magnesium body, higher spec shutter & more.

DSLRs with "full frame" sensors (EF lenses):
EOS 6D........... 20MP, discontinued
EOS 6D Mk II... 26MP
EOS 5D Mk III.. 22MP, discontinued
EOS 5D Mk IV.. 30MP
EOS 5Ds.......... 50MP, low pass filter
EOS 5Ds-R...... 50MP, no low pass filter
EOS DX Mk II.. 20MP

Mirrorless, all with APS-C size sensors (EF-M lenses, w/adapter EF-S & EF lenses):
EOS M100... 24MP, no viewfinder
EOS M50..... 24MP, electronic viewfinder
EOS M6...... 24MP, no viewfinder
EOS M5...... 24MP, electronic viewfinder

For more info on any of the abovve, I recommend Brian Carnathan's website with very thorough reviews and comparisons. https://www.the-digital-picture.com/Reviews/Canon-EOS-Rebel-SL2.aspx

Hope this helps! Have fun shopping.

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Apr 1, 2018 14:05:51   #
Xantoman
 
I upgraded from the T1i to the T6 and have zero regrets. It has more functionality and a faster processor. So far it has been perfectly reliable. My only minor complaint is that Canon changed the battery from that of the T1i which meant that I could no longer use the batteries or charger unit from the T1i. No big deal!

Mike R. (Xantoman)

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Apr 1, 2018 15:25:31   #
Halftrack
 
I have a T6 and like it a lot. Coupled with my three lenses, I have all that I want. Great photos!!

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Apr 1, 2018 15:27:16   #
davyboy Loc: Anoka Mn.
 
amfoto1 wrote:
The T6 is Canon's most entry-level DSLR... and currently is being phased out and superseded by the T7 which has just been announced. As a result, there's some discounting of T6 to clear the shelves in stores.

I suppose it's a testament to the success of the T6 that the T7 is almost identical. The only changes appear to be a higher resolution sensor: 24MP in T7 versus 18MP in the T6.

One thing I don't care for is that the T6 (and T7) DON'T HAVE a self-cleaning sensor. I often have to shoot in dusty conditions and prior to using cameras with self-cleaning sensors, I had to do manual cleanings every one to 3 months. Now using Canon with self-cleaning sensors it's more like once a year or so, that a manual cleaning is needed. The T6 and T7 are the ONLY Canon DSLRs without this feature that I feel is very useful. (In fact I passed over buying the original 5D full frame model because it also didn't have a self-cleaning sensor and had a bit of a reputation as a "dust magnet". I waited and bought a 5D Mark II with the self-cleaning... don't use it nearly as much as my APS-C cameras or in as dusty conditions... and I think I may have manually cleaned it once or twice in 7 years).

The EOS Rebel T6 (called EOS 1300D elsewhere in the world and EOS "Kiss" X80 in Japan) is relatively small and light weight. (The Rebel SL2/200D is smaller/lighter, but has more features and costs a little more.)

T6 has a lot of automation... sort of like a point-n-shoot that allows interchangeable lenses. That makes sense, since it's likely that a lot of T6 buyers are stepping up from a P&S camera to their first DSLR.

T6 is often found "in kit" with one or more lenses. The EF-S 18-55mm IS "II" that it's usually fitted with is okay... but it's a micro motor lens. I'd prefer the EF-S 18-55mm IS "STM" for it's faster/quieter "stepper motor" autofocus, but it's a fairly minor difference.

More important is if you buy the two lens kit, be certain to get the EF-S 55-250mm IS STM telephoto zoom... NOT the cheaper EF 75-300mm "III". The latter is Canon's cheapest tele zoom and acts the part. The 75-300 III lacks IS (image stabilization), has slower/noisier micro motor focus drive (more of an issue on a tele zoom, than the 18-55mm) AND it simply doesn't have all that great image quality.... especially toward the 300mm end of its zoom range, which is likely what you'd want it for.

The EF-S 55-250mm IS STM is a better lens in pretty much all respects. It's got better image quality and is able to focus closer, it has faster/quieter STM focus drive, and it has helpful IS. IMO, it's worth the additional cost.

Don't confuse the T6 with the T6i or T6s, both of which are more advanced cameras with a number of additional features (also now superseded by newer models: T7i and 77D, respectively).

Incidentally, if you prefer a smaller camera, the Rebel SL1 is still widely available new and is similar to the T6, but comes fitted with the EF-S 18-55mm IS STM lens mentioned above. It does not appear to be offered in kit with 55-250 though... only with that 75-300mm III. So I'd recommend not buying it in the two lens kit. Instead get it only with the 18-55mm and add the tele zoom of your choice separately.

Besides being offered with the slightly better 18-55mm lens, the 18MP SL1 also has a self-cleaning sensor, a Touch Screen rear monitor (fixed) and faster continuous shooting rate.

The SL2 got an upgrade to 24MP and it's Touch Screen is articulated. The SL2 also has Dual Pixel Auto Focus (DPAF) in Live View mode, which is much faster than the earlier forms of AF used in Live View and helps make it much more usable.

Both the SL1 and SL2 use newer processors (Digic 5 and Digic 7, respectively) that allow them to shoot continuously at higher frame rates than the T6/T7... The SL1 can shoot at 4 frames per second and the SL2 at 5 fps. The T6 & T7 both use Digic 4 processors and are limited to 3 fps.

T6's and T7's ISO range is 100-6400 (extends to 12800). The SL1's range is 100-12800 (extends to 25600) and the SL2's is 100-25600 (extends to 51200).

All these Canon are a lot more similar than they're different. I do feel the 24MP cameras offer a noticeable step up from the older 18MP in a number of ways... overall better image quality, increased dynamic range, higher usable ISO (allowing shooting in lower light conditions).

One place the T6, T7, SL1 and SL2 are all virtually identical is their optical viewfinders and the autofocus system you'll see there. Like all Rebel series models, they all use a "penta-mirror" instead of a pentaprism, to save weight and cost. They also are all 95% viewfinders with around .85X magnification (some of the more advanced cameras have bigger, brighter 100% viewfinders with up to 1.0X magnification). And all four models use a similar, fairly simple and easy to use 9-point AF system that has one higher performance "cross type" AF point at the center (the more advanced Canon DSLRs have far more complex 45, 61 or 65-point systems, most of which are all cross type).

T6, T7, SL1 and SL2 all also use the same SD type memory cards. The T6 and T7 use the same LP-E10 battery, while the , in each typeSL1 and SL2 use LP-E12 and LP-E17, respectively. The T6 and (I think) T7 can optionally be fitted with a vertical/battery grip.... doubling the number of batteries and providing convenient, vertical controls (2nd shutter release button, etc.) The SL1 and SL2 cannot be fitted with a battery grip, probably because they are intended to be the smallest APS-C DSLRs available.

To summarize, here's the current Canon USA interchangeable lens camera line-up from most entry-level to most advanced:

DSLRs, APS-C size sensors (EF-S and EF lenses):
EOS Rebel T6... 18MP, 9-point AF, discontinued.
EOS Rebel T7... 24MP, 9-point AF, new, announced but not in stores yet.
EOS Rebel SL1... 18MP, 9-point AF, discontinued.
EOS Rebel S2... 24MP, 9-point AF, new, in stores now.
EOS Rebel T6i... 18MP, 19-point AF, discontinued.
EOS Rebel T7i... 24MP, 45-point AF
EOS Rebel T6s... 18MP, 19-point AF, discontinued.
EOS 77D.......... 24MP, 45-point AF (replaces T6s, in spite of not being called a Rebel)
EOS 80D.......... 24MP, 45-point AF, 7 fps, higher spec shutter, pentaprism & more
EOS 7D Mk II... 20 MP, 65-point AF, 10 fps, magnesium body, higher spec shutter & more.

DSLRs with "full frame" sensors (EF lenses):
EOS 6D........... 20MP, discontinued
EOS 6D Mk II... 26MP
EOS 5D Mk III.. 22MP, discontinued
EOS 5D Mk IV.. 30MP
EOS 5Ds.......... 50MP, low pass filter
EOS 5Ds-R...... 50MP, no low pass filter
EOS DX Mk II.. 20MP

Mirrorless, all with APS-C size sensors (EF-M lenses, w/adapter EF-S & EF lenses):
EOS M100... 24MP, no viewfinder
EOS M50..... 24MP, electronic viewfinder
EOS M6...... 24MP, no viewfinder
EOS M5...... 24MP, electronic viewfinder

For more info on any of the abovve, I recommend Brian Carnathan's website with very thorough reviews and comparisons. https://www.the-digital-picture.com/Reviews/Canon-EOS-Rebel-SL2.aspx

Hope this helps! Have fun shopping.
The T6 is Canon's most entry-level DSLR... and cur... (show quote)


The T6i and T6s both are 24 megapixels!!!

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Apr 1, 2018 15:46:47   #
rehess Loc: South Bend, Indiana, USA
 
Larry Maxon wrote:
I have been shooting Canon exclusively since I received an AE-1 in 1979. I have never had a problem.

Good for you!

I used Canon 1995-2015 and went through four bodies; after the second Rebel in a row had processor issues, I switched back to Pentax.

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Apr 1, 2018 17:43:33   #
dennis2146 Loc: Eastern Idaho
 
When I saw your title I hoped this was another firearm discussion. Darn the bad luck.

I have owned a couple of Canon cameras and have never had the slightest bit of problem with any of them. Having said that I have also owned Nikon since back in the mid 60's. I have owned many other brands but Nikon has always been my best cameras over the years. But you asked about Canon cameras. They are also some of the best. If you like Canon I would not hesitate to purchase one. They are great cameras.

Dennis

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Apr 1, 2018 18:33:05   #
Nosaj Loc: Sarasota, Florida
 
billyc46 wrote:
what is everyone's feelings on canon t6


I'm a Pentax user for DSLR work, but have always used a Canon G series as my bridge, auxiliary, and point&shoot camera.

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Apr 1, 2018 20:04:27   #
RKL349 Loc: Connecticut
 
JeffL wrote:
You can debate Canon vs. Nikon vs. Sony vs. Fuji vs. whatever until your hair and teeth fall out. It all comes down to personal preference. The real bottom line is the quality of the photos and that has more to do with the eye and skill of the person looking through the viewfinder. These hardware debates border on stupid and ridiculous and, in the end, never, ever change opinions.


How does your rant even address the original poster’s question?

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Apr 2, 2018 00:40:32   #
speters Loc: Grangeville/Idaho
 
billyc46 wrote:
what is everyone's feelings on canon t6

I never had a Rebel camera, but as far as I know, as an entry level camera, they are quite good! But they are very small cameras and that may make them a little hard to handle.

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Apr 2, 2018 08:11:10   #
mgoldfield
 
I own a Rebel T6; I find it quite easy to hold and handle.
The layout of controls and the shutter release are
conveniently positioned.

I was able to become accustomed to using it very quickly.
It's lightness makes it very easy to use.

If one is unsure, they could always visit a camera store.

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Apr 2, 2018 08:33:17   #
rehess Loc: South Bend, Indiana, USA
 
speters wrote:
But they are very small cameras and that may make them a little hard to handle.

Actually, I found them to be too big. If I were still using Canon, an M-50 would be my choice right now.

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Apr 2, 2018 11:13:56   #
Alafoto Loc: Montgomery, AL
 
billyc46 wrote:
what is everyone's feelings on canon t6


I don't know the T6 but have been a Canon user since my first auto focus Canon, an EOS 630. In fact I still use with my digital Canons, though rarely, a 100-300 USM lens that I got in some trade or other. Have never had any issues with reliability or image quality although the mentioned lens is a bit soft unless stopped down. If you like the camera, go for it. Do remember that you will probably want a full frame dslr at some time in the future, so maybe before pulling the trigger you might want to look into a used full frame from a reliable seller, or refurbished one directly from Canon..

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Apr 2, 2018 11:15:32   #
Alafoto Loc: Montgomery, AL
 
Alafoto wrote:
I don't know the T6 but have been a Canon user since my first auto focus Canon, an EOS 630. In fact I still use with my digital Canons, though rarely, a 100-300 USM lens that I got in some trade or other. Have never had any issues with reliability or image quality although the mentioned lens is a bit soft unless stopped down. If you like the camera, go for it. Do remember that you will probably want a full frame dslr at some time in the future, so maybe before pulling the trigger you might want to look into a used full frame from a reliable seller, or refurbished one directly from Canon..
I don't know the T6 but have been a Canon user sin... (show quote)


To clarify, the 100-300 was one of the earliest USM lenses that wasn't of the L series.

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Apr 4, 2018 05:53:33   #
Al Freeedman
 
I Own a Canon T6i fantastic camera! does everything I need in a camera
If you are thinking about buying one, do it.

Captain Al

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