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Jul 18, 2012 21:39:15   #
UP-2-IT Loc: RED STICK, LA
 
ngc1514 wrote:
EdJ0307 wrote:
The question should be are you getting along without us since the United States had to save your sorry butts from the mean old Nazis or you would have gone down in flames like the French.

It might be helpful if you had some understanding of the European land war as it was taking place in 1941 before making silly comments like that.

The Battle for Britain was over and the Brits won it. Without control of the air over the English Channel, there is no way Hitler could have invaded the UK. Hitler realized this fact and, in his frustration, turned to the East and, on 22 June, 1941, lost the war.

Russians launched their own Winter Offensive around Moscow in December 1941 against the German Army Group Center and drove that Army Group almost all the way back to Smolensk.

Germany was never able to recapture the lost territory and the main fighting in 1942 moved to Army Group South, the Caucasus and Stalingrad. Ask Paulus how well that went for the German 6th Army.

D-Day would have never taken place if the Red Army had not chewed up hundreds of the best German divisions in the east. Compared to battles like Kursk and Kharkov, the Normandy invasion was a sideshow.

I am not saying this to detract from the bravery shown on Omaha and the other landing zones, but every World War II historian will tell you the European War was lost by Germany on the steppes of Russia. The Soviet Army suffered more dead and wounded in one battle than the American forces did in the whole European campaign.

Our monster, Stalin, was stronger than the German monster, Hitler.
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Ed, you were way out in left field when you made your opening statement.

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Jul 18, 2012 22:56:49   #
photoman Loc: Budd Lake, NJ
 
RixPix wrote:
photoman wrote:
RixPix wrote:
ted45 wrote:
budjordan1 wrote:
This is only a 3 minute watch..Its very good. Sorry about the "F" word being used 3 times, but if you can tolerate that, the message is definitely worth while.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=16K6m3Ua2nw


This is a clip from the opening episode of an HBO series called The Newsroom. The series is "fiction" not fact. It is based on the writers opinion. It is good television and nothing more.

Do we believe we live in the Greatest Country on Earth - of course we do; just like you Brits and Aussie's. It isn't arrogance. It is called national pride. Our leaders think they know it all and can "fix" every other country. We don't believe that, but we are working on fixing them. Unfortunately, our constitution doesn't permit neutering. 8-)
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If you fact check the statements made you will find them accurate. Many people in this country are caught up in symbolism. Their favorite symbols are the flag, the cross and the NRA sticker on the back of their vehicle. This part of the population have been deluded into thinking that as long as they have their GUN, Jesus and FREEDOM America will be okay. They are the ones that need the wake up call like the one on this TV show. Unfortunately, answering the that wake up call is more frightening than the devil. I say shake the dust from your feet...those people clutching their guns are too fearful to change and too ignorant to realize they must.
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And what is your excuse ??? First of all I am NOT ignorant and the only fear I have is my fear of GOD Himself !!!! I was given the GOD given right to keep and bear arms by our Constitution, fought for by our forefathers. I enjoy my FREEDOM and at least I can say I fought for it and shed my blood for it so I EARNED MY FREEDOM !!!! And for your information, the only reason the Japs never invaded the mainland USA is because of the GUN TOTING AMERICANS, these Americans were the largest army in the world and they knew they couldn't defeat the American people. And I'll even bet YOU voted for OBAMA.......how do you like the change ???? That's all many Americans have left is a little change !!!!! WAKE UP !!!!!!!
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I urge you to read my posting again. My comments were not directed as an insult or description of you specifically. Although, I imagine that you must "fit the bill" so to speak by your reaction. One more thing you need to stop all the fear...there is nothing to fear but fear itself because there is no god so you can stop the fearing. Obviously it is your fear that is causing you such distress.
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Please answer this question, have you ever served in the US Military ??? If so what branch of service and when ???
I also gather by your response about no GOD that you obviously are an atheist or a muslim or a nazi....I'll pray for you as you need all the help you can get. My reaction was in defense of my Country, my Flag and the FREEDOM people like you enjoy on the blood of people like me. Oh also, you didn't mention if you voted for this idiot in the White House .....or are you ashamed to admit it ?????
GOD Bless you !!!!

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Jul 18, 2012 23:15:43   #
ngc1514 Loc: Atlanta, Ga., Lancaster, Oh. and Stuart, Fl.
 
frenchcoast wrote:
Ed, you were way out in left field when you made your opening statement.

Unfortunately history is one of the subjects that have fallen by the wayside in most American schools.

Did the United States contribute to the defeat of Nazi Germany? Definitely. As Stalin commented, "Britain provided the time, the United States the supplies and Russia the blood."

The American Army fought some bloody battles starting with the 1st and 29th Inf. Divisions near run win on Omaha Beach. They were opposed by the only full-strength German infantry division in the area - the 352nd - which, unlike most other infantry divisions still had 9 battalions. Most other divisions had been reduced to only 6 battalions due to losses.

Had the Germans been able to post in Normandy only 10% of the men and material lost in Russia, the D-Day invasion would have never been attempted.

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Jul 19, 2012 01:58:18   #
Snert Loc: south central Indiana
 
America. Say what you will but look at what we've accomplished. All the breakthroughs and innovations.
The only country to put footprints on the moon. Invented the transistor, the laser, instant coffee, coca-cola, napalm, Thompson sub-maching gun, atomic energy and The Bomb, birth control, open heart surgery, assembly lines for cheaply produced goods. Others too many to mention here.
Yeah, we might have a miserable bunch of lying bastards for leaders but there's a lot of miserable lying bastards out there leading a lot of other countries. There's a lot wrong with America but there's a lot right. You tell me why so many people south of us are wanting to be here that they do it illegally? Try doing that in Mexico.
Before you go off and rant, know what you're talking about.
My family's been in the military since before way back when, still are. I'm a Viet Nam vet and proud of it.

Oh, something else - listen to Obama's speeches backwards and you'll hear things you won't want to hear. Try it!

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Jul 19, 2012 06:24:09   #
Nikonfan70 Loc: Long Island
 
So then mother Russia is the greatest?

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Jul 19, 2012 06:33:19   #
Nikonfan70 Loc: Long Island
 
I am a Vietnam vet also. But I swore allegience to our constitution not president Johnson at the time or the congress which stunk then and sill does. Our county was made great by the common man like my father. I am not a real fan of Obama, but how do think we would do when the draft dodger Mitt becomes "King"?

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Jul 19, 2012 07:05:13   #
budjordan1 Loc: Pittsburgh, Florida
 
Why in the hell would anybody listen to a speech backwards? Who would even think something like this up?
Snert wrote:
America. Say what you will but look at what we've accomplished. All the breakthroughs and innovations.
The only country to put footprints on the moon. Invented the transistor, the laser, instant coffee, coca-cola, napalm, Thompson sub-maching gun, atomic energy and The Bomb, birth control, open heart surgery, assembly lines for cheaply produced goods. Others too many to mention here.
Yeah, we might have a miserable bunch of lying bastards for leaders but there's a lot of miserable lying bastards out there leading a lot of other countries. There's a lot wrong with America but there's a lot right. You tell me why so many people south of us are wanting to be here that they do it illegally? Try doing that in Mexico.
Before you go off and rant, know what you're talking about.
My family's been in the military since before way back when, still are. I'm a Viet Nam vet and proud of it.

Oh, something else - listen to Obama's speeches backwards and you'll hear things you won't want to hear. Try it!
America. Say what you will but look at what we've ... (show quote)

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Jul 19, 2012 07:23:48   #
ngc1514 Loc: Atlanta, Ga., Lancaster, Oh. and Stuart, Fl.
 
Nikonfan70 wrote:
So then mother Russia is the greatest?

Not sure how you arrived at that. My posts were directed solely to EdJ0307's silly and historically inaccurate comment:
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The question should be are you getting along without us since the United States had to save your sorry butts from the mean old Nazis or you would have gone down in flames like the French.

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Jul 19, 2012 07:38:16   #
Nikonfan70 Loc: Long Island
 
Ok I read his post. The war would have been `LOST without the USA. The Brits need our lend lease material and the Soviets were supplied with a bunch ouf our stuff also. My father in law in the navy was on a ship that provided escort to the convoys to Murmansk, a very dangerous job.

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Jul 19, 2012 07:47:39   #
donrent Loc: Punta Gorda , Fl
 
ENGLAND : Once the ruler of the World ! Controlled and Ruled over more countries than any one nation in history...

Now: A mere shadow of itself...

Now: Taken over by the stupidity of letting any and
everyone come into its borders...

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Jul 19, 2012 08:21:57   #
ngc1514 Loc: Atlanta, Ga., Lancaster, Oh. and Stuart, Fl.
 
donrent wrote:
ENGLAND : Once the ruler of the World ! Controlled and Ruled over more countries than any one nation in history...

Now: A mere shadow of itself...

Now: Taken over by the stupidity of letting any and
everyone come into its borders...

That's your assertion. It might be interesting if you defended it.

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Jul 19, 2012 08:23:40   #
boroboy51 Loc: middle earth
 
Lancer W/A Canon wrote:
ToadSlayer wrote:
"Why America is the greatest country in the world" ?

HA HA HA some folks will believe anything.

'America(s)' is not a country : it's a continent. Often for geographical convenience divided into North America, Central America, and South America.

The former British colony, mainly situated between Mexico and Canada, is I understand, now known as the United States of America.

BTW - I keep meaning to ask, are you getting along, without too many difficulties, without us ? I'm sure you'll get the hang of self-governance, given another hundred years or so ....
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The United States of America, has been known as " America ", for as long as it's been formed. Maybe you heard the songs , " God Bless America " ." America the Beautiful ".
What's that famous song about england? Do they even have one ?
BTW-How's the old lady the " Queen " doing. Exactly what does she do for England ? See here in the "colonies ", we don't have to bow to anyone, even if they are worth $ 5 or 10 Billion dollars.
How's your parliament doing ? Stopped raining yet ? People in glass houses.............
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Hey Have I missed something? Have hostillities been resumed?

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Jul 19, 2012 08:36:43   #
Nikonfan70 Loc: Long Island
 
Nikonfan70 wrote:
I am a Vietnam era vet also. But I swore allegience to our constitution not president Johnson at the time or the congress which stunk then and sill does. Our county was made great by the common man like my father. I am not a real fan of Obama, but how do think we would do when the draft dodger Mitt becomes "King"?

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Jul 19, 2012 08:37:00   #
Snert Loc: south central Indiana
 
Obama backwards.
It's called masking. There's words or phrases stuck in backwards that the mind subconciously picks up. It might be hard to do in a live situation but if it's recorded, what then? A conspiracy? Mayhap. Who's to say what's conspiracy and what isn't if nothing can be proven.
The Beatles were said to have done such on many of their records. Their White Album is supposed to have most and it took over 900 hours for the engineers to complete so there's nothing on it that wasn't planned.
I might try listening to Obama backwards just to hear what I can. Who knows? He might make better sense that way.

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Jul 19, 2012 08:55:44   #
Nikonfan70 Loc: Long Island
 
It's such a shame when we don't choose the best man for president. but rather the lesser of two evils.

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