Can anyone explain to me.. (Page 3): I wouldn't worry your little head. Wellhiem has consistently proven on this forum that his reasoning ability so far surpasses your own said...

Keenan Loc: Central Coast California

DaveO wrote:

This is quite typical of the reasoning that prevents serious contemplation and counterproductive to say the very least. I realize that we can't solve the problems here on the forum, but what reasonable people might consider a fruitful discussion is hardly plausible.

I wouldn't worry your little head. Wellhiem has consistently proven on this forum that his reasoning ability so far surpasses your own said ability, that you will never even be able to see at his reasoning level, let alone understand it even if you could see it.

Also, you're not one to make any credible judgements about what would make a fruitful discussion "plausible", given that you have pretty consistently demonstrated that you are not capable of contributing much beyond your worn out juvenile petty attacks and childish name calling that most of the forum membership has long ago grown tired of.

You might have better luck going back to the grade school sand box and joining with the children who are much closer to your level.

Good luck. You're welcome.

(Now, help me prove my point about you by responding with your oh-so-typical juvenile insults.)

Twardlow Loc: Arkansas

DaveO wrote:

The military has used the gun for years, right through Viet Nam and special units thereafter. Guns registered prior to 1986 can be bought. Big bucks and registration fees to licensed persons.

And we never see them in crimes, right?

Twardlow Loc: Arkansas

Sjfh wrote:

You’re missing the key part of the equation: desire to own.

I don’t get your point.

DaveO Loc: Northeast CT

Twardlow wrote:

And we never see them in crimes, right?

mjmoore17 Loc: Philadelphia, PA area

Sjfh wrote:

....the rationale behind passing more and stricter gun laws?

How will additional laws keep weapons out of the hands of criminals who, by definition, disregard the law?

Are responsible gun owners to be feared? Does picking up a handful of metal transform one into a criminal? If so, how does that happen?

Why is this question always asked as if pertinent to gun deaths. It is an old silly question that tries to frame gun deaths as violent acts by criminals. Are there a significant number of gun deaths that are not committed by criminals? Why ask if owning a gun transforms you into a criminal? It is a stupid question asked by a small mind.

gorgehiker Loc: Lexington, Ky

I've never had an explanation from a gun rights supporter concerning the absence of mass shootings and rarity of gun deaths in nations with strict gun laws. Other nations have criminals and people afflicted with mental health issues. They don't have easy access to guns and they are safe.

Sjfh

mjmoore17 wrote:

Why is this question always asked as if pertinent to gun deaths. It is an old silly question that tries to frame gun deaths as violent acts by criminals. Are there a significant number of gun deaths that are not committed by criminals? Why ask if owning a gun transforms you into a criminal? It is a stupid question asked by a small mind.

My question was not if non-criminal gun deaths happen or if owning a firearm causes criminal behavior.

I asked how additional gun laws would prevent use of firearms by criminals. Can you answer that question, or is that beneath you as well?

Sjfh

gorgehiker wrote:

I've never had an explanation from a gun rights supporter concerning the absence of mass shootings and rarity of gun deaths in nations with strict gun laws. Other nations have criminals and people afflicted with mental health issues. They don't have easy access to guns and they are safe.

Maybe you ought to ask that question.

Is it correct to say that you have no answer to my question?

thom w Loc: San Jose, CA

[quote=Sjfh]My question was not if non-criminal gun deaths happen or if owning a firearm causes criminal behavior.

I'm under the impression that you already have the answers you want to hear. Anyone offering a solution would be judged not on the merits of their plan, but on how close they come to your preconceived notions. Not a lot of motive to give a serious answer.

wilpharm Loc: Oklahoma

Sjfh wrote:

Is that how the guns get onto the black market? Upstanding citizens buy them legally and then just sell them to anyone in a back alley? Wouldn’t that make the buyer a criminal?

many are stolen..

Keenan Loc: Central Coast California

thom w wrote:

Anyone offering a solution would be judged not on the merits of their plan, but on how close they come to your preconceived notions.

That succinctly describes the cognitive (dis)function indicative of the extremely tribalistic American right wing today which has gone to war against objective reality, science, reason, and even those Institutions within the American Constitutional Government that do not bend to their increasingly extremist tribalistic uncompromising dogma. It also describes virtually all of the dozen or two wingers on UHH.

thom w Loc: San Jose, CA

wilpharm wrote:

many are stolen..

Few are taken from responsible gun owners.

wilpharm Loc: Oklahoma

thom w wrote:

Few are taken from responsible gun owners.

thats total bullshit..do you think every gun owner has a gunsafe..or that not having one makes him/her irresponsible??

McKinneyMike Loc: Texas

Sjfh wrote:

Is that how the guns get onto the black market? Upstanding citizens buy them legally and then just sell them to anyone in a back alley? Wouldn’t that make the buyer a criminal?

No it would not. A private seller is most states is not required to do a background check before selling a personal firearm. Should everyone be required to sell all firearms thru an FFL? Yes I think that this would in the years following, help to lessen the guns available on the black market. NRA is firmly against this thought.

mjmoore17 Loc: Philadelphia, PA area

Sjfh wrote:

My question was not if non-criminal gun deaths happen or if owning a firearm causes criminal behavior.

I asked how additional gun laws would prevent use of firearms by criminals. Can you answer that question, or is that beneath you as well?

And my reply is that the question is a reflection of a shallow mind. Even if it did not prevent use of firearms by criminals, there are many deaths by firearms that would be prevented. So why is this question a valid measurement for the needs of guns. It is a question that feeds into the boogeyman gotcha mentality. While it would be a new and exciting world for you, please try original thinking. Being a parrot of the NRA is something a six year old can accomplish.