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May 27, 2021 17:31:54   #
bobbyjohn Loc: Dallas, TX
 
Delderby wrote:
I used to title Indians as Indians until recently, when I noticed Indians referred to as Natural (or Native) Americans - by Americans. It is interesting that those people prefer to be called Indians. Perhaps "Original Americans" or simply "Originals" might suit their case better.
I note that you did not comment on the question of land title - is it a "hot potato"? Does political correctness come into that? If so, whose politics?
I used to title Indians as Indians until recently,... (show quote)

Dan Snyder owns the Washington Football Team, formerly the Washington Redskins. For many years he vowed never to change the name, but has since caved to the PC (Politically Correct) radicals who thought the name to be racist...it's not. I wonder how many other sports teams will cave also to the PC crowd...let's see...we have the Florida State Seminoles, the Cleveland Indians, the Vancouver Canucks, the Atlanta Braves, the Kansas City Chiefs, the Chicago Blackhawks, etc. etc. I went to St. John's University in Jamaica, NY class of 1970, and at the time, the basketball team was the St. John's Redmen. St. John's caved sometime in the 1990s, and changed their name to the Red Storm...how silly! This history is that they picked the name "Redmen" solely because they wore red uniforms, just as the Syracuse team was/is the Orangemen, because they wore orange uniforms. How ridiculous times have become!

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May 27, 2021 19:23:57   #
DickC Loc: NE Washington state
 
bobbyjohn wrote:
Dan Snyder owns the Washington Football Team, formerly the Washington Redskins. For many years he vowed never to change the name, but has since caved to the PC (Politically Correct) radicals who thought the name to be racist...it's not. I wonder how many other sports teams will cave also to the PC crowd...let's see...we have the Florida State Seminoles, the Cleveland Indians, the Vancouver Canucks, the Atlanta Braves, the Kansas City Chiefs, the Chicago Blackhawks, etc. etc. I went to St. John's University in Jamaica, NY class of 1970, and at the time, the basketball team was the St. John's Redmen. St. John's caved sometime in the 1990s, and changed their name to the Red Storm...how silly! This history is that they picked the name "Redmen" solely because they wore red uniforms, just as the Syracuse team was/is the Orangemen, because they wore orange uniforms. How ridiculous times have become!
Dan Snyder owns the Washington Football Team, form... (show quote)


This PC crap sucks, those teams will always be the same regardless of this PC BS!!

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May 27, 2021 20:20:31   #
rmalarz Loc: Tempe, Arizona
 
If I'm not mistaken, the name Washington Redskins was suggested by a native American.
--Bob
bobbyjohn wrote:
Dan Snyder owns the Washington Football Team, formerly the Washington Redskins. For many years he vowed never to change the name, but has since caved to the PC (Politically Correct) radicals who thought the name to be racist...it's not. I wonder how many other sports teams will cave also to the PC crowd...let's see...we have the Florida State Seminoles, the Cleveland Indians, the Vancouver Canucks, the Atlanta Braves, the Kansas City Chiefs, the Chicago Blackhawks, etc. etc. I went to St. John's University in Jamaica, NY class of 1970, and at the time, the basketball team was the St. John's Redmen. St. John's caved sometime in the 1990s, and changed their name to the Red Storm...how silly! This history is that they picked the name "Redmen" solely because they wore red uniforms, just as the Syracuse team was/is the Orangemen, because they wore orange uniforms. How ridiculous times have become!
Dan Snyder owns the Washington Football Team, form... (show quote)

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May 28, 2021 09:53:29   #
DickC Loc: NE Washington state
 
rmalarz wrote:
If I'm not mistaken, the name Washington Redskins was suggested by a native American.
--Bob


I'm pretty sure your right Bob.

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Feb 2, 2022 09:28:25   #
happy sailor Loc: Ontario, Canada
 
dcampbell52 wrote:
Actually, they do NOT call themselves Indians. Indian is a title besowed on them by white men early in the settlement of North America by Europeans. Indians (Native Americans if you wish) called themselves as members of specific tribes (families). They didn't particulary worry about such things. If you were a member of their tribe, you may or may not be okay. If you were a member of a tribe that was friendly with them you either got a pass or were treated as a friend. If you were a member of a competing or non-friendly tribe, you were enslaved or killed. Yes, I am a member of the Chicasaw tribe and 1/4th Chicasaw (not Indian, they come from India... in south Asia). Oh and by the way, the only reason that this continent is called America is because of Americus Vespuci (another European) and not because the residents called it that. Oh, and we (the Indians) never called ourselves indians. That was a monicer applied by people stealing our lands (white Europeans). While you are at it, you might ask the govenment of the United States to please pay the Chickasaw the 40 to 60 million dollars that they were supposed to pay when they purchased Florida prior to our removal. Ummm what would that be now in current dollars and with accrued interes over the couple of hundred years of the United States ignoring their treaty?
Actually, they do NOT call themselves Indians. Ind... (show quote)


Well with the naming conventions of those pesky European settlers, just be thankful Columbus wasn't looking for Turkey ,lol.

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Feb 2, 2022 17:33:25   #
DickC Loc: NE Washington state
 
rmalarz wrote:
If I'm not mistaken, the name Washington Redskins was suggested by a native American.
--Bob


Your right Bob!!

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