Clattering cameras (Page 2): Shirley it's time for me to leave this post lol.

fourg1b2006 Loc: Long Island New York

Shirley it's time for me to leave this post lol.

JohnFrim Loc: Somewhere in the Great White North.

David in Dallas wrote:

So why don't the photographers lock up the mirrors and use the screen to aim?

Heretic!!! Be thou careful of thy utterances lest ye be gagged, hog-tied and/or pilloried between tripods by the OVF/SLR aficionados. They paid good money for their mirror and prism. That mirror slap is also an attaboy on the back for "good shot!" Of course, depending on the quality of the camera, the audio feedback of the shutter click (sometimes actually done electronically because the mirror/shutter system is so damned quiet on expensive gear) may be the only guarantee that a photo has indeed been taken.

I offer this rationale in lieu of the audio track requirement demanded by POTUS.

BebuLamar

Although I like the mirror slap and the shutter sound I think the next generation of mirrorless should also be shutterless. I like the mechanical shutter but I think even the best like a shutter from a Canon 1D or Nikon D5 wouldn't be very accurate at shutter speed of 1/1000 and up.

Pablo8 Loc: Nottingham UK.

For years, I promised myself, that if I ever got to the dizzy heights of making a TV broadcast / Press speech, I would suggest/ instruct that Photographers would have one minute before I start my speech, to shoot away. But after that, to have the respect not to shoot again, till I had finished talking. Never had the opportunity to make that speech, although I have spent much time in the ranks of being a 'Press Photographer'.

WILLARD98407 Loc: TACOMA, WA.

DaveO wrote:

We're not sure and don't call me Shirley. Or is don't call me, Shirley?

I wish, surely, that you would surely not call me Shirley, surly Shirley.

mwsilvers Loc: Central New Jersey

David in Dallas wrote:

I was watching the coverage of President Trump in Florida today and almost could not hear what was being said over the incessant loud clattering of the cameras. One would think that since almost all cameras in use today are digital, it would be possible to create an electronic shutter that was noiseless.

DSLR's do not have electronic shutters they have mechanical shutter boxes. You are hearing the sound of the mirror being raised and the shutter curtains opening and closing.

Peterff Loc: O'er The Hills and Far Away, in Themyscira.

David in Dallas wrote:

I was watching the coverage of President Trump in Florida today and almost could not hear what was being said over the incessant loud clattering of the cameras. One would think that since almost all cameras in use today are digital, it would be possible to create an electronic shutter that was noiseless.

This may provide a little useful background on the camera technology issues. http://www.dpreview.com/articles/5816661591/electronic-shutter-rolling-shutter-and-flash-what-you-need-to-know

Can't do anything about politicians and government officials, they defy rational logic.

Bill_de Loc: US

Years back photographers shooting speaking events were encouraged to use rangefinders. That worked for awhile but gradually the press photographers switched over to SLRs. It seemed to coincide with members of the press, and everyone else, showing less respect for the people around them. This is today's civilization, sans the civil.

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rgrenaderphoto Loc: Hollywood, CA

99% of Press Photograpers use canon or Nikons, which are mandated by their agency. AP prefers Canon, but will allow their Stringers to use Fuji.

rehess Loc: South Bend, Indiana, USA

BebuLamar wrote:

Although I like the mirror slap and the shutter sound I think the next generation of mirrorless should also be shutterless. I like the mechanical shutter but I think even the best like a shutter from a Canon 1D or Nikon D5 wouldn't be very accurate at shutter speed of 1/1000 and up.

That may have to wait for "global shutters", the ability to read entire sensor at once.

speters Loc: Grangeville/Idaho

David in Dallas wrote:

I was watching the coverage of President Trump in Florida today and almost could not hear what was being said over the incessant loud clattering of the cameras. One would think that since almost all cameras in use today are digital, it would be possible to create an electronic shutter that was noiseless.

Most cameras do not use electronic shutters! And what you're hearing is not the shutter sound, but the sound of the mirrors moving up and down!

speters Loc: Grangeville/Idaho

rehess wrote:

That may have to wait for "global shutters", the ability to read entire sensor at once.

Sony did just that!

David in Dallas Loc: Dallas, Texas, USA

speters wrote:

Most cameras do not use electronic shutters! And what you're hearing is not the shutter sound, but the sound of the mirrors moving up and down!

Thank you. However it is created, the sound is very irritating. It wouldn't be so bad if just a once in a while thing, but at affairs like that there seem to be multiple cameras (not surprising) taking 5 or 6 shots per second each--sounds like a war zone.

therwol Loc: USA

David in Dallas wrote:

I was watching the coverage of President Trump in Florida today and almost could not hear what was being said over the incessant loud clattering of the cameras. One would think that since almost all cameras in use today are digital, it would be possible to create an electronic shutter that was noiseless.

The old technology works, and professional photographers have many thousands of dollars invested in their equipment. We are in a transition period between the DSLR and mirrorless, and sooner or later, there will be mirrorless cameras that are as durable, reliable and versatile as the current DSLR cameras. There have been some interesting designs by Sony and others, but we're not quite there yet. Keep in mind that any new system may require that the older cameras be abandoned at considerable expense to those who have been using them. Lens compatibility may be a huge issue. Time will tell.

Pablo8 Loc: Nottingham UK.

Bill_de wrote:

Years back photographers shooting speaking events were encouraged to use rangefinders. That worked for awhile but gradually the press photographers switched over to SLRs. It seemed to coincide with members of the press, and everyone else, showing less respect for the people around them. This is today's civilization, sans the civil.

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Yes!!!There was a time, when TLR, and Leica cameras were oft used by press Photographers. Just gentle shutter clicks and all was acceptable to the listeners ears. But it didn't last long enough, when the motor driven SLR's became the favoured weapon.