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Jan 18, 2018 10:24:33   #
Wellhiem Loc: Sunny England.
 
What past presidents may or may not have done is irrelevant. In the past, they could pretty much get away with anything. These days, everything they say or do is immediately witnessed by just about everybody. They can no longer deny what is in the public domain via the internet. Trump is constantly trying to do so. How long would it take to doctor a video, that goes online within seconds of the event taking place? He is no longer in a boardroom where he can deny what he said five minutes ago, and all the yesmen surrounding him are too afraid to argue. If he doesn't understand that, then it may not be a sign of dementia, but it certainly comes under the heading of stupidity.

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Jan 18, 2018 10:56:22   #
drainbamage
 
Wellhiem wrote:
What past presidents may or may not have done is irrelevant. In the past, they could pretty much get away with anything. These days, everything they say or do is immediately witnessed by just about everybody. They can no longer deny what is in the public domain via the internet. Trump is constantly trying to do so. How long would it take to doctor a video, that goes online within seconds of the event taking place? He is no longer in a boardroom where he can deny what he said five minutes ago, and all the yesmen surrounding him are too afraid to argue. If he doesn't understand that, then it may not be a sign of dementia, but it certainly comes under the heading of stupidity.
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So the fact that past presidents had affairs (Jack Kennedy, Bill Clinton) is irrelevant? However, Trump said "shithole" and he should be impeached for it?

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Jan 18, 2018 11:02:07   #
Wellhiem Loc: Sunny England.
 
drainbamage wrote:
So the fact that past presidents had affairs (Jack Kennedy, Bill Clinton) is irrelevant? However, Trump said "shithole" and he should be impeached for it?


If Trump said "shithole" and he meant shithole, then okay that's fair enough. But to deny saying it makes him a liar.

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Jan 18, 2018 11:02:38   #
Twardlow Loc: Arkansas
 
drainbamage wrote:
You have too many "may have's" in your excusing Ted Kennedy's killing Mary Jo. Chasing a little tail? it happens? Wow! I wouldn't want to go to a party with you.

He was drunk. Alcohol was definitely an issue. It always was with the Kennedys - they drank like fish every day of the week. Ted drove his car off a bridge. He did not "wait too long to report it"..he swam to his own safety and forgot about her until the next morning when someone asked him "Where's Mary Jo"
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Rather than argue with you, I’m going to try to learn something.

I’ll listen. Please tell me why this issue is so important, some fifty years after it happened.

Why are you so invested in this issue? Is it really that important?

Why the brouhaha?

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Jan 18, 2018 11:04:13   #
Twardlow Loc: Arkansas
 
boberic wrote:
Didn't let her die ? BS. He was drunk when he drove off that bridge. Left the scene of the accident for 10 hours. If you or I did that we would be prosecuted for criminally negligent homicide. Probably spend a long time in the clink


I’ll repeat my previous post for you.

Rather than argue with you, I’m going to try to learn something.

I’ll listen. Please tell me why this issue is so important, some fifty years after it happened.

Why are you so invested in this issue? Is it really that important?

Why the brouhaha?

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Jan 18, 2018 11:05:05   #
Twardlow Loc: Arkansas
 
Black Bart wrote:
Well you will have 7 years to decide.



I doubt it very, very much.

I consider it a near certainty that he won’t finish a second term.

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Jan 18, 2018 11:08:56   #
Twardlow Loc: Arkansas
 
boberic wrote:
Only that Trump's behavior is slammed and the same, or similliar actions of democrats is ignored. Kennedy's affairs were ignored while mere alligations against Trump are fodder for impeachment


Let’s be honest now. Issuers agains Trump are much more than ‘allegations.’ We have his admission to sneaking into watch the naked girls in his beauty show, his admission that he gropes women as a ‘pussy grabber,’ almost proven that he paid women to be silent ($130,000) repeated accusation by 15-20 women, etc.

This way outweighs anything Ted Kennedy was charged with.


BTW, there is no talk of impeachment until 2019. Anyone who says otherwise doesn’t understand Republican in the House.

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Jan 18, 2018 12:37:29   #
drainbamage
 
Wellhiem wrote:
If Trump said "shithole" and he meant shithole, then okay that's fair enough. But to deny saying it makes him a liar.


There is no recording of him saying it, so all it is is just "he said it" and "he did not say it". That's why Trump made the statement that he should make sure his meetings are recorded from now on.

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Jan 18, 2018 12:40:34   #
thom w Loc: San Jose, CA
 
drainbamage wrote:
There is no recording of him saying it, so all it is is just "he said it" and "he did not say it". That's why Trump made the statement that he should make sure his meetings are recorded from now on.


He's definitely on record as saying that if she wasn't his daughter he would date her.

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Jan 18, 2018 12:42:09   #
Twardlow Loc: Arkansas
 
drainbamage wrote:
There is no recording of him saying it, so all it is is just "he said it" and "he did not say it". That's why Trump made the statement that he should make sure his meetings are recorded from now on.


He said it....

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Jan 18, 2018 12:48:15   #
drainbamage
 
thom w wrote:
He's definitely on record as saying that if she wasn't his daughter he would date her.


What, exactly, is wrong with that statement? She is a beautiful woman. That is what he was saying. It was a COMPLIMENT, that's all.

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Jan 18, 2018 18:27:27   #
wilpharm Loc: Oklahoma
 
Twardlow wrote:
Criticism of Ted Kennedy is legitimate, but he didn’t “let” a woman die, as he had no control over her life or death. That much is dishonest.

“Lets assume he is overwheight and approaching obesity and maybe he should lose 10 or 20 pounds. ”. Let’s assume that as you suggest and let that issue go.

I’m much more concerned about his mental abilities that his weight.

I think when more is known, and we have better perspective and better information, we may learn how very serious Trump’s mental weaknesses really are, and how justified we would be in panic.
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he had 100% control over her life, you dumbass

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Jan 18, 2018 21:06:31   #
boberic Loc: Quiet Corner, Connecticut. Ex long Islander
 
Twardlow wrote:
Let’s be honest now. Issuers agains Trump are much more than ‘allegations.’ We have his admission to sneaking into watch the naked girls in his beauty show, his admission that he gropes women as a ‘pussy grabber,’ almost proven that he paid women to be silent ($130,000) repeated accusation by 15-20 women, etc.

This way outweighs anything Ted Kennedy was charged with.


BTW, there is no talk of impeachment until 2019. Anyone who says otherwise doesn’t understand Republican in the House.
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Go back sto that tape again. Trump never said that he grabbed any one's pussy. he said that he COULD. There is actually a very big difference. Was it crude and offensive? yes. But saying he could is different than saying he did.

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Jan 18, 2018 23:22:30   #
Twardlow Loc: Arkansas
 
boberic wrote:
Go back sto that tape again. Trump never said that he grabbed any one's pussy. he said that he COULD. There is actually a very big difference. Was it crude and offensive? yes. But saying he could is different than saying he did.


I stand behind my point, and you did nothing to weaken it.

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Jan 19, 2018 00:03:22   #
drainbamage
 
Twardlow wrote:
I stand behind my point, and you did nothing to weaken it.


Don't you have any flexibility at all? Is it all your word and no one else's matters? Can you at least consider another point of view? Are you so shallow that you only succumb to one source, and only one? You can stand behind your point until what.. That everyone stops talking to you about it?

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