The glamour industry
Fasion, makeup, weight loss
They all depend on the endless pursuit of something unatainble
Insecurity is the fuel that drives the glamoir industry.
Representing the truth is the last thing a marketer is going to do. The glossy airbrushed images will always be pushed as far as possible
CVS is just covering a liability cya.
PP and manipulation are just the 1st layer of the onion
The truth of a photograph is the real question here. Our brain composites what we see into our own unique vision. One could argue a composite shot is needed to represent what we see.
Is it even possible? Can it be judged?
Before and after photos are the best litmus test for the CVS policy. The purpose of before and after is to draw contrast. It is just a question of how far you can push the slider.
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b roll wanabee wrote:
The glamour industry
Fasion, makeup, weight loss
They all depend on the endless pursuit of something unatainble
Insecurity is the fuel that drives the glamoir industry.
Representing the truth is the last thing a marketer is going to do. The glossy airbrushed images will always be pushed as far as possible
CVS is just covering a liability cya.
PP and manipulation are just the 1st layer of the onion
The truth of a photograph is the real question here. Our brain composites what we see into our own unique vision. One could argue a composite shot is needed to represent what we see.
Is it even possible? Can it be judged?
Before and after photos are the best litmus test for the CVS policy. The purpose of before and after is to draw contrast. It is just a question of how far you can push the slider.
Great Post Great comments
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Something that I find interesting is that the most beautiful women that I know are frequently the most insecure because they feel immense pressure to keep up appearances. At times it can be extremely unhealthy physically, mentally, or both.
There are equivalent pressures upon men of course, but they come in different forms.
Setting unrealistic expectations in advertising can be very damaging. Especially in formative years. Why should we subject people to that pressure?
We don't seem to be very tolerant when we feel that a camera or a major vendor fails to live up to our expectations.
Almost all photographs are 'manipilated' in some way to create a 'better image', but the ethics and motivation do need to be questioned sometimes.
"Photographer General's Warning! This image may seriously damage your health."
Shutterbug57 wrote:
That is the point. If you find the original article, they had the before and after image of the model. She is, obviously quite good looking, but she has a visible vein on her forehead, a freckle or mole the makeup did not cover and maybe 1 or 2 more small “defects”. These were removed in post.
It is not as if CVS is asking for Rosie O’Donnell to be the model on packaging, just that real women are shown as they actually are. They are still going to pick the same women.
Yep... but my point was; citing photo manipulation being bad for the health of others vis a vis creating "unrealistic body images' are a significant driver of health issues, 'especially among women." is horse feathers...
as there are plenty of woman (and men) that are regarded as 10s without photo manipulation.
Those that are going to damage their health by trying to look like a manipulated photo, would be just as likely to damage
their health by trying to look like someone who is a "10" without the benefit of "PP".
In fact I quoted the part of CVSs statement I was referring to as follows: "...the decision reflects an acknowledgement that 'unrealistic body images' are a significant driver of health issues, 'especially among women.'
I hope that clarifies that matter for ya dude.
I personally LOVE a good photo that has been manipulated........if it's been done with skill. It crosses the line between reality and fantasy........and sometimes blends that transition so well that we question what is real and what is manipulation. I'm adding one to this thread just for fun.
Abo wrote:
"a flat out lie?"
How fun! Very nicely done!
A lot of fun! Excellent scene!
Peterff wrote:
Something that I find interesting is that the most beautiful women that I know are frequently the most insecure because they feel immense pressure to keep up appearances. At times it can be extremely unhealthy physically, mentally, or both.
There are equivalent pressures upon men of course, but they come in different forms.
Setting unrealistic expectations in advertising can be very damaging. Especially in formative years. Why should we subject people to that pressure?
We don't seem to be very tolerant when we feel that a camera or a major vendor fails to live up to our expectations.
Almost all photographs are 'manipilated' in some way to create a 'better image', but the ethics and motivation do need to be questioned sometimes.
"Photographer General's Warning! This image may seriously damage your health."
Something that I find interesting is that the most... (
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I think the cause of what you are talking about is due to something else. Possibly the many women who want to be too skinny
are motivated to be that way because of issues far more complex than, keeping up with the Lesley Hornbies (AKA Twiggy) of this world.
One issue for (particularly female) models is loss of work. I shared a house with a very beautiful 19 year old model.
When she was 14 she did a series of advertisements for stockings... At 14 she was built a lot like Twiggy. However
she soon became curvy (and imho drop dead gorgeous... 11/10) and the agency dropped her.
Abo wrote:
I think the cause of what you are talking about is due to something else. Possibly the many women who want to be too skinny
are motivated to be that way because of issues far more complex than, keeping up with the Lesley Hornbies (AKA Twiggy) of this world.
One issue for (particularly female) models is loss of work. I shared a house with a very beautiful 19 year old model.
When she was 14 she did a series of advertisements for stockings... At 14 she was built a lot like Twiggy. However
she soon became curvy (and imho drop dead gorgeous... 11/10) and the agency dropped her.
I think the cause of what you are talking about is... (
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Curvy models are a thing right now. I bet there is an agency that she could get with.
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