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Nov 28, 2017 10:48:50   #
AlfredU Loc: Mooresville, NC
 
bsprague wrote:
When I mounted on the Gatorfoam I had a little trouble getting the edges perfect. I real surprise came when I tried my table saw with a fresh, sharp blade to trim a 1/8 inch off all four sides after the print was mounted.

Well, tell us. Did it work?

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Nov 28, 2017 11:12:05   #
AlfredU Loc: Mooresville, NC
 
Back when I did wet prints, I always used a dry mount press. It helped that my University had one. With nice flat prints from my ink jet printer, I cut window mats and back them with foam core. I did find a really good deal on a commercial grade mat cutter which I share with two other owners. I am cutting mats right now. Can't beat that look.

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Nov 28, 2017 12:27:33   #
Machinedoc Loc: Yorktown Heights, NY
 
I use an archival method that does not require a dry mount press or adhesives (except for Filmoplast tape). See this video for a demo - it is from this video that I learned the method. Good luck and enjoy your finished product. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_ShqjjD1B4E

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Nov 28, 2017 12:48:12   #
JaiGieEse Loc: Foxworth, MS
 
The other night, I decided to repurpose an old frame and mat set I'd had made up for a print many years ago.

After removing the brown paper backing seal, I discovered underneath a ⅛ to 3/16" thick rectangle of matt board. After bending back the staples the frame shop had used to secure this board to the frame, I flipped it over and there was my old print. It was not glued to the matt board in any way. Each corner of the print was tucked into a small, clear and very thin plastic mounting device - amounted to a small, transparent triangle-shaped pocket, with adhesive on one side, to allow the pocket to be attached to the backing board. There was one inch-square double-sided adhesive patch tucked under the upper and lower edges of the print at the top and bottom center - NOT touching the print itself but rather the 1.5" border the frame shop had left around the print.

Getting the old print out was a breeze, and that print is not damaged in any way, and is completely reusable. This print was from a series of 20 I'd had framed in roughly 2003 or 2004. The matt had been cut so that it covered approximately 1/16" inch or less around the edges of the print, and I could see no evidence of fading. All 20 prints had been framed in this manner. with sealed backs. None had been exposed to sunlight, except very indirectly, in some exhibits which had windowed rooms, and none of those widows were nearer than 30 feet from the framed images.

At any rate, I was impressed with the mounting system and its way of leaving the print totally undamaged.

Now, the thing to do is to find a supply of those little transparent mounting pockets. I do not recall having run across any. My prints were framed/matted at an art supply place in Jackson, MS, so I guess that's where I should begin my search. If anyone knows of an on-line source of these little jobbies, I'd like to hear about it.

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Nov 28, 2017 12:59:36   #
flyguy Loc: Las Cruces, New Mexico
 
JaiGieEse wrote:
The other night, I decided to repurpose an old frame and mat set I'd had made up for a print many years ago.

After removing the brown paper backing seal, I discovered underneath a ⅛ to 3/16" thick rectangle of matt board. After bending back the staples the frame shop had used to secure this board to the frame, I flipped it over and there was my old print. It was not glued to the matt board in any way. Each corner of the print was tucked into a small, clear and very thin plastic mounting device - amounted to a small, transparent triangle-shaped pocket, with adhesive on one side, to allow the pocket to be attached to the backing board. There was one inch-square double-sided adhesive patch tucked under the upper and lower edges of the print at the top and bottom center - NOT touching the print itself but rather the 1.5" border the frame shop had left around the print.

Getting the old print out was a breeze, and that print is not damaged in any way, and is completely reusable. This print was from a series of 20 I'd had framed in roughly 2003 or 2004. The matt had been cut so that it covered approximately 1/16" inch or less around the edges of the print, and I could see no evidence of fading. All 20 prints had been framed in this manner. with sealed backs. None had been exposed to sunlight, except very indirectly, in some exhibits which had windowed rooms, and none of those widows were nearer than 30 feet from the framed images.

At any rate, I was impressed with the mounting system and its way of leaving the print totally undamaged.

Now, the thing to do is to find a supply of those little transparent mounting pockets. I do not recall having run across any. My prints were framed/matted at an art supply place in Jackson, MS, so I guess that's where I should begin my search. If anyone knows of an on-line source of these little jobbies, I'd like to hear about it.
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"Now, the thing to do is to find a supply of those little transparent mounting pockets."

Those "pockets" are mounting corners and here is a link to get you started:

https://www.pfile.com/product/m-mcp125f/Custom-Framing-Supplies

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Nov 28, 2017 13:08:12   #
2Much Loc: WA
 
flyguy wrote:
...Those "pockets" are mounting corners and here is a link to get you started...


Another source:

https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/681830-REG/Lineco_L533_0035_L533_0035_Polypropylene_Mounting_Framing_Corners.html

And a good mounting/framing video showing them in use:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3n2ossog5Ns

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Nov 28, 2017 13:17:53   #
AlfredU Loc: Mooresville, NC
 
JaiGieEse wrote:
The other night, I decided to repurpose an old frame and mat set I'd had made up for a print many years ago.

After removing the brown paper backing seal, I discovered underneath a ⅛ to 3/16" thick rectangle of matt board. After bending back the staples the frame shop had used to secure this board to the frame, I flipped it over and there was my old print. It was not glued to the matt board in any way. Each corner of the print was tucked into a small, clear and very thin plastic mounting device - amounted to a small, transparent triangle-shaped pocket, with adhesive on one side, to allow the pocket to be attached to the backing board. There was one inch-square double-sided adhesive patch tucked under the upper and lower edges of the print at the top and bottom center - NOT touching the print itself but rather the 1.5" border the frame shop had left around the print.

Getting the old print out was a breeze, and that print is not damaged in any way, and is completely reusable. This print was from a series of 20 I'd had framed in roughly 2003 or 2004. The matt had been cut so that it covered approximately 1/16" inch or less around the edges of the print, and I could see no evidence of fading. All 20 prints had been framed in this manner. with sealed backs. None had been exposed to sunlight, except very indirectly, in some exhibits which had windowed rooms, and none of those widows were nearer than 30 feet from the framed images.

At any rate, I was impressed with the mounting system and its way of leaving the print totally undamaged.

Now, the thing to do is to find a supply of those little transparent mounting pockets. I do not recall having run across any. My prints were framed/matted at an art supply place in Jackson, MS, so I guess that's where I should begin my search. If anyone knows of an on-line source of these little jobbies, I'd like to hear about it.
The other night, I decided to repurpose an old fra... (show quote)

Try Blick Art Supply online. They are the best solution for holding a print in place in an Rchival over mat.

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Nov 28, 2017 20:54:49   #
aellman Loc: Boston MA
 
petercbrandt wrote:
Spray adhesives are not that permanent, the edges of the print will loosen over years of display.


If you get the right kind of spray adhesive, it is very permanent (some are designed to be repositionable). It would take a bomb blast to separate the components. I have mounted prints 40 years old that are still firmly attached. There is also a double sided adhesive sheet that goes between the print and the board. You peel the release paper off both sides and stick away. I have had very good long-lasting results with that product.

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Nov 29, 2017 06:33:28   #
Gene51 Loc: Yonkers, NY, now in LSD (LowerSlowerDelaware)
 
Machinedoc wrote:
I use an archival method that does not require a dry mount press or adhesives (except for Filmoplast tape). See this video for a demo - it is from this video that I learned the method. Good luck and enjoy your finished product. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_ShqjjD1B4E


The video shows what I use 95% of the time. I do own a Seal Masterpiece 350, and from time to time, with some images, I will dry mount prints onto Gatorboard. They make a nice "floating" presentation, and at under 3 lbs for a 24x36, a cinch to attach to the wall with 3M's Command adhesive and velcro picture hangers.

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