Latest on mirrorless cameras (Page 3): I love my M43 kit for travel, I have 1st generation M43 body and it's starting to show it age. I was about to pull the trigger on a new body, but...

JD750 Loc: SoCal

burkphoto wrote:

If you really expect less total kit weight, look first at Micro 4/3 gear from Panasonic Lumix and Olympus. Full frame and APS-C offerings don’t save much weight, because only their BODIES are lighter.

Most of the mirrorless weight savings are in Micro 4/3 format lenses.

I love my M43 kit for travel, I have 1st generation M43 body and it's starting to show it age. I was about to pull the trigger on a new body, but the D850 came out, with BSI sensor technology. I thought "wow that would be fantastic on a M43 sensor". So now I am waiting for that to happen and I be the first to snap up a M43 body with a BSI sensor.

I could definitely see having all M43 equipment in the future, that and medium format being my two kits.

Harald

I got a Sony a6000 last week with 15-50 mm and 55-200mm. It is light, relatively inexpensive ($850 for the lot seems to be the current price) and has all the manual overrides I could want. Also, it has a view-finder, so I don't have to rely on the screen. Even at the most modest megapixel setting it generates pictures around 4MB, and they are very sharp. I would have liked to have faster lenses, but that would be much more expensive for a casual photographer. However, with an adapter I can use my many Nikkor and other Nikon film camera lenses when I won't mind the weight to get the right shot.

Gregger Loc: Phoenix area

Adicus wrote:

I just turned 73 today and as you may have read I have just returned from a 5 week holiday and found this time that carrying a lot of kit around became a bit much. I am now thinking seriously about the possibility of going mirrorless to lighten the load. I reallise that this has probably been hashed over but wonder what the latest on mirrorless is.

I have a Olympus EP-5 with three lenses and added view finder. I simply got tired of carrying and changing lenses. I rarely use it although it is a great camera. I purchased a Sony RX10 m3 which has a one inch sensor and zooms to 600ml. Sony is coming out with a m4 very soon or have already done so. The camera weighs close to three pounds, but I really enjoy it. I might mention carrying the 4/3's are still a bit heavy when considering the camera with lenses.

LoneRangeFinder Loc: Left field

I'm traveling in France right now. I took a Fuji mirrorless and the 18-55 "kit lens". There's a ton of security here now and the guys lugging around a DSLR + multiple lenses do not look like they are having fun. Happy I stuck with my plan: one camera and one lens.

le boecere

Adicus wrote:

I just turned 73 today and as you may have read I have just returned from a 5 week holiday and found this time that carrying a lot of kit around became a bit much. I am now thinking seriously about the possibility of going mirrorless to lighten the load. I reallise that this has probably been hashed over but wonder what the latest on mirrorless is.

So far, I'm seeing three "mirrorless" lenses suggested on this thread that might be thought of as comparable:

the Micro 4/3 Olympus M.Zuiko 12-100 f/4 (24-200, 35mm equivalent FOV) which weighs 1.24 pounds ~
the APS-C Sony E PZ 18-105mm f/4.0 (27-158mm, 35mm equivalent FOV), which weighs 1.06 lbs. ~
the APS-C Fujinon XF 18-135mm f/3.5-5.6 (27-200mm, 35 mm equiv FOV), which weighs 1.08 lbs.

(I keep hearing and reading that the M4/3 lenses are somewhat lighter than the mirrorless APS-C lenses, so I had to go see for myself)

moonhawk Loc: Land of Enchantment

le boecere wrote:

So far, I'm seeing three "mirrorless" le... (show quote)

Hard to compare different focal lengths and maximum apertures.

le boecere

LoneRangeFinder wrote:

I'm traveling in France right now. I took a Fuji mirrorless and the 18-55 "kit lens". There's a ton of security here now and the guys lugging around a DSLR + multiple lenses do not look like they are having fun. Happy I stuck with my plan: one camera and one lens.

Very good ~ and current ~ information to receive. Thank you.

LoneRangeFinder Loc: Left field

le boecere wrote:

So far, I'm seeing three "mirrorless" le... (show quote)

I'm using the 18-55mm lens in France. I miss having more on the wide end then the telephoto end. I might take a 14mm on the next trip abroad. I've done a few panos to compensate. FWIW, the OIS works very well on the aforementioned "kit lens" & in my opinion is the best kit lens I've used. Still have two Nikon DSLRs. Downsizing because I have to. Not only is the difference in weight significant--so is the size and this lens/camera combo is very well balanced. I also eschewed the CF tripod for this trip....

le boecere

moonhawk wrote:

Hard to compare different focal lengths and maximum apertures.

Yes, and, yet; many of these UHH threads seem to infer that we can, we do, and they are (comparable).

le boecere

LoneRangeFinder wrote:

I'm using the 18-55mm lens in France. I miss havi... (show quote)

I'm a "Sony guy" who purchased that lens (Fujinon 18-55mm "kit lens") for exactly the reasons you're stating. (of course, a small Fujifilm camera was attached)

adm

For those of you considering Olympus, do not overlook the Pen series. It is even smaller and lighter than the OM series. Some guys may take issue with the fact that this series is primarily marketed to women but if you stick with black finish, you will be okay. It is also less expensive and more modular than the OM series. I was able to pick up a new Pen E-PL 7 with kit zoom for $400 last year shortly after this model was phased out. It does not come standard with an electronic viewfinder but you can purchase one as an accessory. I have just now ordered an EVF because I became frustrated with glare under some shooting conditions with bright sun (more of a problem here in New Mexico than in some places) but you can get by without one. This is not meant as a criticism of the OM series but I am just pointing out that there is another option.

Delderby Loc: Derby UK

Gregger wrote:

I have a Olympus EP-5 with three lenses and added view finder. I simply got tired of carrying and changing lenses. I rarely use it although it is a great camera. I purchased a Sony RX10 m3 which has a one inch sensor and zooms to 600ml. Sony is coming out with a m4 very soon or have already done so. The camera weighs close to three pounds, but I really enjoy it. I might mention carrying the 4/3's are still a bit heavy when considering the camera with lenses.

I believe that, in reality, the one inch sensor is very much smaller than one inch.

burkphoto Loc: High Point, NC

Adicus wrote:

I just turned 73 today and as you may have read I have just returned from a 5 week holiday and found this time that carrying a lot of kit around became a bit much. I am now thinking seriously about the possibility of going mirrorless to lighten the load. I reallise that this has probably been hashed over but wonder what the latest on mirrorless is.

Look at the Panasonic Lumix GH5 and G85.

https://m.dpreview.com/reviews/panasonic-lumix-dc-gh5
https://youtu.be/HfqtqoGpn8I
https://youtu.be/1UhcXk4owuU
https://youtu.be/N6BcaykMp88

https://m.dpreview.com/reviews/panasonic-lumix-dmc-g85-g80
https://youtu.be/jr0uPSOF0jE
https://youtu.be/WDkSjVnLq6w

I have a GH4, and love its versatility and the light weight of my kit, 1/3 of the weight I used to carry for the same stills coverage, and it eliminated 84% of my video kit weight, too, with far better quality.

Panasonic has the best ergonomics, button, dial, and menu layout of any film or digital camera I’ve used in 45 years. The GH4 just made total sense to me, right out of the box.

The GH4 and GH5 are known for video, but they deliver great stills, too.

CatMarley Loc: North Carolina

LoneRangeFinder wrote:

I'm traveling in France right now. I took a Fuji mirrorless and the 18-55 "kit lens". There's a ton of security here now and the guys lugging around a DSLR + multiple lenses do not look like they are having fun. Happy I stuck with my plan: one camera and one lens.

Isn't that little kit lens a gem? So tiny, so sharp, so USEFUL. I think the one pound XT-20 with the 18-55 is just about the perfect all round package for travel. Put a few spare batteries and memory cards in your pocket and you are good to go. Beautiful photos, almost impossible to get a bad exposure with that EVF. And a joy to use if you want extra artistic control, because everything is right at your fingertips. Fuji beats all my Nikons!

tdekany Loc: Oregon

CaptainBobBrown wrote:

Depends on what you're trying to accomplish. If i... (show quote)

Unfortunately it happens only when the magnification is turned on on maximum on your viewfinder and the sun hits the viewfinder. Sounds like that is you. Me too. I don’t mind. The EM1 mark2 is superior to the original EM1 as far as tracking.