120MP Sensor on the Horizon ... but where's the glass that can resolve that? (Page 2): I think its very good sales maketing. That kind of resolution is beyond unnecessary but they will...

Dyeager Loc: Michigan

I think its very good sales maketing. That kind of resolution is beyond unnecessary but they will make you think you need it to sell cameras and lenses. It is very rare for me to need more than 12 mp and i print 16x24 regularly and often larger. The argument about needing more mp for cropping and editing kind of falls on its face when you have the reach of lenses and quality of processors we have today. They need to keep improve the quality of the processors and software, we have more mp then we need now

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Dyeager wrote:

I think its very good sales maketing. That kind of... (show quote)

Amen!

Spirit Vision Photography Loc: Behind a Camera.

ChrisT wrote:

Jesu ... a 2TB HD seems to be the norm these days. Plus - 2-6TB back-up drives. SD Cards are getting bigger every day ... we've already reached a half TB ... so full TB cards can't be far behind ... nowadays, it seems folks are carting along 2TB HDs on the way thru the mountains and forests ... hope they cling on to 'em nice & tight!

This is becoming more burdensome than when we carried around a couple extra rolls of film. Memory cards, laptops, back-up devices, etc.
O’Sullivan with a pack mule laden down with 8x10 glass plates travelled lighter than some of us do.

I’ll just stick to one camera, one or two lenses, an extra roll of film and go about the making my images.

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Spirit Vision Photography Loc: Behind a Camera.

Dyeager wrote:

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Architect1776 Loc: In my mind

ChrisT wrote:

One w/o the other is fairly useless - no?

Canon has it as they have shown excellent well resolved photos with the 120mp sensor and current lenses.
https://petapixel.com/2016/05/20/canon-120mp-dslr-shows-off-stuff-canon-expo/

CatMarley Loc: North Carolina

ChrisT wrote:

One w/o the other is fairly useless - no?

Unless you are into military aerial surveillance I can't see any use for files that size or resolution, even if you had lenses capable of it. Already you can print very sharp poster sized prints from what we have now!

cactuspic Loc: Dallas, TX

Canon claimed amazing ability to resolve detail in it's 250MB protoype. "During testing, the monster sensor (combined with optical and digital zooming), was able to 'distinguish the lettering on the side of an airplane flying at a distance of approximately 18 km (11 mi) from the shooting location.'" As there appears to be glass that will resolve the airplane's lettering at 11 miles that was available to Canon for their protoype, I have no doubt there will high res glass available to the general public when such beasts are released.

Spirit Vision Photography Loc: Behind a Camera.

CatMarley wrote:

Unless you are into military aerial surveillance I can't see any use for files that size or resolution, even if you had lenses capable of it. Already you can print very sharp poster sized prints from what we have now!

I concur. But there are many shooters out there that have more money than Vision and skill. The Camera manufacturers are a business, attempting to make a profit.

CatMarley Loc: North Carolina

cactuspic wrote:

Canon claimed amazing ability to resolve detail in... (show quote)

But who (among normal, non crazed people) cares? Will they be better photographers?

cactuspic Loc: Dallas, TX

CatMarley wrote:

Unless you are into military aerial surveillance I can't see any use for files that size or resolution, even if you had lenses capable of it. Already you can print very sharp poster sized prints from what we have now!

One interesting impact would be that I could shoot a bird in flight with a 100mm lens, and put many more pixels on the bird than I could with my 100-400mm zoom at 400mm with my Canon 7Dii. You could crop insanely yet preserve detail.

MrBob Loc: lookout Mtn. NE Alabama

What kind of stabilization would be required to maximize the higher resolutions ? We have already seen that utmost care must be taken with the hi rez cams that we have now in order to maintain sharpness.... at the resolutions you are alluding to even breathing hard might be destabilizing. Haven't done the math but what would sensor size be in a full frame format for say 250 MB ? How much movement could be tolerated ? Easy answer would be WHY, but then again WHY NOT as surely other breakthroughs would be accomplished in related areas...

CatMarley Loc: North Carolina

cactuspic wrote:

One interesting impact would be that I could shoot a bird in flight with a 100mm lens, and put many more pixels on the bird than I could with my 100-400mm zoom at 400mm with my Canon 7Dii. You could crop insanely yet preserve detail.

And you would have a blurry bird, because the angle of view was so small that even the vibration of the shutter will blur the photo. Dreams and delusions!

mwsilvers Loc: Central New Jersey

Jesu S wrote:

Is that 120 MP in FF or APS-H?

I believe Canon has a prototype 250MP sensor in the APS-H format.

Shudder to think what file size that would be. Files from the 5Ds tend to be around 70 MB. The 250MP sensor files would likely be 350MB??? Even at 6fps a 1 sec squeeze of the shutter would need 2GB of space. Ugh!

The shock over "extreme" file sizes is becoming largely a state of mind. The 128gb SD and CF cards are becoming more affordable every day. Can affordable 256gb, 512gb and 1tb cards be far behind? I use 64gb SD and CF cards in my Canon 7D Mark II, something i never would have considered not too many years ago. Computers are faster and more powerful with larger amounts of storage space as file sizes are getting bigger. It wasn't that long ago that people would have had the same reaction to the 35 to 45 mb raw files that are common today. As we have in the past, we will adapt.

mwsilvers Loc: Central New Jersey

CatMarley wrote:

But who (among normal, non crazed people) cares? Will they be better photographers?

Of course not, but any tools which will allow us to capture shots with greater detail then possible now might be a positive depending on the subject and intent of the photographer. However, IMO, great composition is far more important than resolving extreme amounts of detail.

Architect1776 Loc: In my mind

mwsilvers wrote:

Of course not, but any tools which will allow us to capture shots with greater detail then possible now might be a positive depending on the subject and intent of the photographer. However, IMO, great composition is far more important than resolving extreme amounts of detail.

Then why is everyone dumping their D810 and getting the D850?
Why when the D810 came out the rush to get it?
Does the D850 make better photos? Absolutely not.